What is God's role with Born Disabled?
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What a sad Situation, people are so much stuck with their own perception, and knowledge,(borrowed), they are not willing to at least see if there is something different in what Dr. Fazlur Rahaman Writes. People writing here are like, a blind man describing a elephant, who has never seen one.
I am one among the gifted person, to have experienced him, and have personally benefited by this wisdom. I am a Hindu by religion.
I am a Qualified Chartered Accountant (CPA) by profession. My knowledge is a miniscule before his wisdom. -
What a sad Situation, people are so much stuck with their own perception, and knowledge,(borrowed), they are not willing to at least see if there is something different in what Dr. Fazlur Rahaman Writes
.What makes you think that some of us have not seen what this character writes. The results are very nasty and unpleasant. There is nothing new in his writing. It is also amazing that so many on this thread Appear to have personally experienced his awesome power. Now isn't that a strange coin incidence that all you guys just happen to be also visiting this website.
People writing here are like, a blind man describing a elephant, who has never seen one.
I am one among the gifted person, to have experienced him, and have personally benefited by this wisdom. I am a Hindu by religion.Strange really a Hindu who happens to be visiting a Quran only website and even bigger coincidence has benefited from the character central to this thread.
Also surprised that you are still a Hindu considering that you have witnessed the miracle of a Muslim faith healer.I am a Qualified Chartered Accountant (CPA) by profession. My knowledge is a miniscule before his wisdom.
What relevance has chartered accountant with healing? Or are you trying to impress by your professional qualifications.
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Salam,
BenderI appreciate your concern, but falling into the trap of MM is disastrous and close to committing suicide. The MM would get the signature from the wife and husband that the doctors would not be held responsible if the mother or the child dies; or even if both of them die during delivery.
Allah alone is the creator of life in the womb. But of all the systems of medicine, the MM alone arrogantly invades and meddles with the interior of the blessed womb, like postponing menstruation, surgical intervention like D & C, inserting copper-T, cutting and tying ip the fallopian tube, administration of dead and synthetic oestrogen, progesterone which would severely disturb or inhibit the natural and life enriched reproductive hormones by feed-back mechanism. This causes all sorts of menstrual disorder and uterine dysfunction leading to every complication the mother suffering during pregnancy and delivery. The MM's invasive and messing up methodologies involving scanning radiations is the cause of many genetic disorders. The vitamin B6, iron, calcium supplements severely damages the functioning ability of kidneys and cause even heart defects in the babies. Even the mothers end up in life threatening toxaemic pregnancies. Most maternal and foetal deaths occur only because of such arrogant interventions by MM. Most mothers suffer the beginning of diabetes for the first time is again due to the stress caused by the drugs administered to the mother in the name of prenatal care. They would immediately give it a name gestational diabetes. And soon they would become a diabetic patient. The growing foetus would get affected too with diabetes in its later stages of development after birth.
Any system of medicine can help in delivery because of their humility and fear for God. The only system to be shunned and thrown to dustbin is MM. From pregnancy to delivery, the highest mortality rate is only with MM. I have given so many links to support this truth in this thread, just two pages before. Please go through such links and you would know.
fazl
Salaamun alayka,
I was only commenting on the phrase I quoted.
I am not sure what MM stands for as I did not read every post in this thread and I have zero knowledge about medicines.
Anyway, I am against doctors who want to change the creation of Allah, but I am for doctors who want to save a life.
I think every doctor knows his/her purpose of his/her actions and I think every "patient" knows why he/she is consulting a doctor, and Allah is The Judge of the judges.Salaam,
Bender -
Do you people seriously want a link war? There are horrific cases on BOTH sides. As is clear from the link, doctors like Dr. Mayer said you shouldn't be doing that and that there are proper procedures to be followed. They got investigated and found lacking with the penalties associated with it. It's not something that's kept secret.
Who's going to be investigating drfazl's 'patients'? Apparently no one. On one hand he asks for money, calls them patients and is active in giving them 'advice/prayers' and on the other he says I've nothing to do with anything...it's all Allah. So no responsibility on the 'doctor' whatsoever. I see the sense in it, since if he's ever questioned he can say they were foolish enough to give me money even though I had no power to help them. Both are responsible though to what extent only Allah knows best.
Anyone can twist and turn the sitch into whatever they want, it's not dirty money! it's to launder their money! It's for Allah! Even though I use it! whatever. The bottom line is, money is being exchanged, people are coming over to 'get cured' and at the epicentre of all this is drfazl who apparently beams with a saintly light like buddha having achieved nirvana. Just look at what his followers people say?
I am one among the gifted person, to have experienced him, and have personally benefited by this wisdom.
My knowledge is a miniscule before his wisdom.
There were so many questions and I kept asking and he answered them with utmost patience.
This post is reminiscent of people in other places going 'I too have benefited you can too! Try drfazl's miraculous brand of healing today!' the man makes my potted plants shrink in awe! none so rare as can compare to drfazl and his fiddlers three!' and so on and on in this thread alone, who knows what further wonders the website holds since my access is blocked.
If it was just some guy off the street going turn to Allah alone, no one else, that is all and thanks for all the fish...I'd invite him to have dinner or something. It's a beautiful message. It starts turning ugly when people make a livelihood out of it, add in lies and other histrionics to make it more forceful, use verses in ways that would boggle most anyone's mind and then have the audacity to say
2000 is only a wretched paltry price to receive Allah's Mercykgwithnob is spot on here
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Peace.
There are things we were given with abilities and disabilities. We were put in a situation of no choice. The no choice situation is a condition we have to learn to accept and live with. It is in that condition we begin our journey of discovering, learning, and seeking the Truth, in constructing our belief, shaping our thoughts, molding our intentions, professing our emotions and directing our actions. It is in that condition we reason, we decide and we choose whether to be positive or negative, who and what to blame or to blame or not to blame, and so on and so forth.
I think and I believe that this is my condition. Everyone is subjected to his/her own conditioning. So live in it or not to live in it? It is one?s condition in his/her life-time zone. In that condition, within that life span, I can choose to surrender or to strive.
The day will come when I shall meet the God, and I have to decide what would be my best approach to be in the meeting. I have to reason out whether I should ask, what have you got for me for my total surrender or I should ask, I have believed and I am certain on this Meeting and I am ready to receive and read my book of deeds.
Should I seek other for guidance and help?
My Lord,
16-7 Guide us to the straight path. The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked anger or of those who are astray.Think about it. hmm
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Ooh a direct response! Should I feel honoured your high buddhaness? hail
I'm pretty sure parts of your website aren't working = blocked access. Fix it please, so I can get material for the next installment.
peace
p.s. does this voodoo remind you of acupuncture in any way? Just curious, is all.
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Peace.
There are things we were given with abilities and disabilities. We were put in a situation of no choice. The no choice situation is a condition we have to learn to accept and live with. It is in that condition we begin .....
After this starting, the rest of the post seems to be on an antithesis journey. I am not sure what you are trying to convey.
drfazl
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What is God's role in the born disabled?
God's role is to clearly tell us that our spending our time and efforts all throughout lives in the intense and invasive cold-blooded, savage assault on the womb, the world of the growing baby from a seed. All you do in the name of treatment or in the name of 'saving' the patient is hysterectomy. Allah says do not say even that you do not do. But here you believed MM more than your God who ransack the womb which they cannot create, thus causing injustice to your souls. So they have to taste a severe punishment plus utmost hatred of Allah. The born disabled are the handiwork of MM, Allah has no role in it, in the least.
- The likeness of what they spend in the life of this world is as the likeness of wind in which is intense cold that smites the seed produce of a people who have done injustice to their souls and destroys it; and Allah is not unjust to them, but they are unjust to themselves.
drfazl
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God's role is to clearly tell us that our spending our time and efforts all throughout lives in the intense and invasive cold-blooded, savage assault on the womb, the world of the growing baby from a seed. All you do in the name of treatment or in the name of 'saving' the patient is hysterectomy. Allah says do not say even that you do not do. But here you believed MM more than your God who ransack the womb which they cannot create. So they have to taste a severe punishment plus utmost hatred of Allah. The born disabled are the handiwork of MM, Allah has no role in it, in the least.
Please put in your response with reference to Quran.
3117 has nothing to do with wombs unless one is womb obsessed and sees them in everything they read.patient drfazl tell me more about savage assaults on wombs in the quran please, it fills me with dread...and wonder.
dryoda certainly, read when 2205 we do, destroyed the wombs are...evil all that doctors do, does not like Allah.p.s. voodoo ?
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3117 has nothing to do with wombs unless one is womb obsessed and sees them in everything they read.
patient drfazl tell me more about savage assaults on wombs in the quran please, it fills me with dread...and wonder.
dryoda certainly, read when 2205 we do, destroyed the wombs are...evil all that doctors do, does not like Allah.p.s. voodoo ?
Put in your views first as to who to be blamed for the babies born disabled? Speak from Quran. If you have sense on the topic, stop fighting and write the best you possess. We are here to take the best view point. Salvage the issue.
The understanding of womb is any place that germinates, generates or produce life. Apply your mind to Quran not the brain's muddy knowledge.
As far as I know of you, you are only interested in fighting others' views without you having anything of your own. And you are a literal reader of Quran with your nuisance grammar and spent out vocabularies. Quran is for pondering which requires no grammar or any of the linguistic paraphernalia. You never practised Quran. Do you know what Allah says about those who enter in to debate over His Ayats? Kafirs. So do not behave like a kafir ridiculing 3117 has nothing to do with wombs then starting a row over it. The subject referred here is MM believers unjustly wrong themselves. This ayat has every relevance to the disabled.
I am not here to teach you Quran. God will teach you if you follow first a life without associating partners to Allah in life and death matters at least.
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Put in your views first as to who to be blamed for the babies born disabled? Speak from Quran. If you have sense on the topic, stop fighting and write the best you possess. We are here to take the best view point. Salvage the issue.
I agree with zone whose post you didn't get. My views have clearly been put forth in this thread. You're the one fighting because you're the one making baseless assertions, not just on any one topic either.As far as I know of you, you are only interested in fighting others' views without you having anything of your own.
I suggest reading, fazl snow.And you are a literal reader of Quran with your nuisance grammar and spent out vocabularies.
What is nuisance grammar and spent out vocabularies?Quran is for pondering which requires no grammar or any of the linguistic paraphernalia.
Pondering requires sense not your nonsense.You never practised Quran.
Does Allah judge people or do you? The lines are blurring for you aren't they.Do you know what Allah says about those who enter in to debate over His Ayats?
Do you know what Allah says about those who prohibit things according to their own whims?So do not behave like a kafir ridiculing 3117 has nothing to do with wombs then starting a row over it.
Oh perfect, this long rant was only to say that no one can challenge your interpretation of the verse. Apparently ridiculing a verse is asking where you see wombs which aren't there. Your definition of a row is any disagreement with yourself.The subject referred here is MM believers unjustly wrong themselves.This ayat has every relevance to the disabled.
No it doesn't. You see it because you want it to be there.I am not here to teach you Quran. God will teach you if you follow first a life without associating partners to Allah in life and death matters at least.
What are you here for then? More patients? What do you know of what Allah has taught me or not? Of course, what's wrong with me...drfazl's 'opinions' are apparently God's commandments, if one disagrees then one's a kafir. Probably scares people into handing over their money as well.Hopefully your well has run dry now and you can go back to ignoring me voodoo ?
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Aoa
Ooh a direct response! Should I feel honoured your high buddhaness?
You should not be the only one. Page after page of asking for simple evidence including.
Smallpox
Evidence that societies without access to MM have better maternal/child mortality
How ovary is an empty sac
How charging used 2000 is not the same as the dirty notes..... The list of non response to factual questions is endless.& then lo & behold. Response to such a challenging quote
What relevance has chartered accountant with healing? Or are you trying to impress by your professional qualifications.
That was a quotable quote a chartered accountant has no relevance with healing for he cannot suffer from diseases.
Since you have responded. Can you then explain why the above profession is more relevant than say if he had been a road cleaner.
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Quran it is the guidance for people of all the worlds; to the heavens and the earth, and for the men and the jinns for all time. Men and jinns have different kinds and source of births. Dwelling places are different. Foods are different. The human life is totally visible while the jinns are invisible. Our languages are different. Under such circumstances Quran shall have to function as an unifying language for the people of all the worlds. Quran is the language for both men and jinns. 3117 shall have to guide both the people. How come men's dictionary and grammar and meanings could be suitable to the rest of the people's of all the worlds?
Unless every verse is taught by Allah, you are ignorant of Quran.
Each verse should guide each of all people of all walks of life under various individualised situations, if we believe Quran is guidance for all people, all time.
Unless every verse is taught by Allah, you are to be misguided.
There should be no contradiction between any two verses of Quran. So every single verse of it has coherence with the rest of 6000 and odd verses. So as you read Quranic ayat from any page, it should give guidance to your presenting situation, individually.
Unless Allah teaches directly, we are in total loss.
This is my way of rehearsing Quran. So in this forum I speak only of what I have gained from any single verse. And surely Allah guides me.
Next 16 78. Says Allah has no role in the born disabled except human role.
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Unless every verse is taught by Allah, you are ignorant of Quran.
Unless every verse is taught by Allah, you are to be misguided.
Unless Allah teaches directly, we are in total loss.
Peace All
551 The Most Merciful
552 Taught the Qur'an,
553 Created man,
554 Taught him the mode of expression, of Qur'an.
876 By degrees shall We teach, so you shall not forget.
Regards
BalaChandran