What is God's role with Born Disabled?
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What is God's role with born disabled?
"Allah knows what every female bears, and the wombs that shrink and harden; and that which bloom and blossom; and the measure is with Him for every material." 138
The phrase, "what every woman bears" refers to the wombs of married or unmarried; and the wombs of pregnant or non pregnant; and he wombs of healthy or afflicted as to whether they bear the the Mighty Grace of Allah; or the bear the brunt of shaitan's. Every womb is a new world designed and shaped for the creation of all anew life of a new generation the world is yet to see, as they are delivered of the wombs and made to grow to each one's threshold. There is none but Allah who could create an womb! When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.
This is Nabi Nuh's prayer to Allah "For, behold, If You leave them, they will always lead astray those who worship You, and will give birth to nothing but wickedness and stubborn ingratitude."
So fear Allah. Put your trust in Him for your progeny to be created by Allah.
Or is there any shaitan who could claim, "I can create an womb?" Or are there his allies who believe with him and say, "We could create womb?"
This is millions dollar message to you for which I seek no wages from you. It is all for free without a penny fee.
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Brilliant, it's progressed from soliciting money for healing prayers to saying every woman who gives birth in a hospital is birthing a hellspawn. Do people ever stop to think how ridiculous and WICKED this is? Obviously not those in debt to drfazl.
138 God knows what every female carries, and how short her pregnancy is or how long. And everything with Him is measured.
When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.
= all babies born in hospitals are clones and clowns, mostly created for hell. What drfazl does is purport to take truth in the form of verses and creates a lie by his outlandish associations and choice translations.
This is Nabi Nuh's prayer to Allah "For, behold, If You leave them, they will always lead astray those who worship You, and will give birth to nothing but wickedness and stubborn ingratitude."
The giving birth to wickedness and stubborn ingratitude is now literally giving birth to hellspawn somehow associated with hospital births because well, how else is a good doctor who does nothing supposed to get his monies? Certainly, relying on people's good will won't get one luxury travels even if it does get one a full meal.So fear Allah. Put your trust in Him for your progeny to be created by Allah.
Because those giving birth in hospitals don't think their progeny is created by Allah. The doctors created their progeny. Reminds me of the Pakistani movie Immaculate Conception.Or is there any shaitan who could claim, "I can create an womb?" Or are there his allies who believe with him and say, "We could create womb?"
There is only one person asking that question on this thread. The one that believes the doctor-shaitans can create a womb and progeny somehow.This is millions dollar message to you for which I seek no wages from you. It is all for free without a penny fee.
I'd say no one would pay to hear this millions dollar message but then again, apparently there are some willing to give $2000...it's all so priceless. -
Peace newmoon.
After reading the article by drfazl that you posted, I can?t help it but to conclude it is Sufism at the highest degree.
In a nutshell
To my earthly dimensional creative understanding, all forms of knowledge that the God created in the present universe, are earthly profane. We observe the ayats in the heavens and the earth and whatever within us in order to discover the meanings and the laws embedded in His creations (the God?s knowledge) to safeguard our personal, fellow humans and crops to orderly live and grow to our fullest potential to be in accordance to the way of Allah. Thus, we begin with the name of Allah and we conclude with all praises to Allah.Peace zone
Similar to sufism, which Iam unaware off, I have heard about total surrender - saranagathy in the tamil hindu theology, which is encompassed in the fullest and the finest form in the latest, unalterable and last God's Scripture Quran.
By God's Grace, with the sign of unbelievable cure, interested me in Quran to believe in the unseen, beyond all forms and spheres of knowledge existing today.
General apprehension is that the Truth is complex, not so easy to tread, whereas the Myth, the earthly knowledge on the other hand, perceived through our outer senses leaving the inner voice in lurch, is easy for us to believe and proceed.
The Myth what we believe is benefit through knowledge with little difficulty, rather the Truth is we benefit little, that too temperorarily, with a greater difficulty.
A typical example could be the present Modern Medicine for our health care. Initially for a child it starts with a single dose of medicine to cure a single disease, or a vaccine for prevention.
In the beginning, we get a relief, but sooner or later the side effects crops up into multivarious diseases.
Thereupon we run from pillar to post for various doctors/hospitals as the diseases reaches chronic, whereupon the surgery takes over when medicine fails.
Meanwhile financially one would be bankrupt, to finally kick the bucket painfully. Hellish life starts here, and hereafter. This could happen over a period of many years from a child to adult/old age.
I am afraid if you remain in the state of God consciousness at the first level, you will be ingrained with the pride of talking like the truth from the God, which actually is disguised falsehood.
I appreciate your concern, and you can pray for me , for my pride should not openly/stealthly creep in to falsify the TRUTH.
Here is another example, how Truth is so simple, God willing one can understand.
Generally on an average assuming a person is diseased say 10% (36 days out of 365 days in a year) even on a higher side.
So, for the remaining 90% healthy period, who is responsible, whether self or knowledgeable person like Doctor ?
If so why I/WE should fail for this 10% period, while 90% period I/WE are successful ?
It is GOD who keeps us healthy, and allows us to be diseased for a short period, only to turn towards HIM for our ingratitude, unbelieving nature and to repent for the sin of association we commit.
All one has to do is to seek patience and forgiveness for us to be elevated in order, not to err again.
Going against this, by seeking others help would make this 10% diseased period to aggravate slowly and steadily to a greater period, until we are nailed down in the Lofty ICU, in a peaceless state.
Regards
BalaChandran
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Peace,
God just said 'be' and Jesus fetus was inside of Mary. This does not support the idea of the trinity, does it? Thus Mary needed no man to become pregnant, but she did not conceive in a normal way. As far as I know there has only been one pregnancy like the one in the case of the virgin Mary, but the possibility remains if God so wills.
Any woman can conceive if God so wills, no matter if she is very old or struck with some inability to conceive. You have the Quran as a proof of that. Do you not believe that God can do anything? This idea has nothing to do with drfazl, it is a fact from the Quran.
I have not solely defended drfazl as you can read in the previous posts in this thread by me. I consider him a brother, but that is to maintain the peace. He has not shown himself in such manner I would not call him brother.
God bless you
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When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell
Either you are taking the p out of every one or you are in a serious need of psychiatric assistance. Either way you need urgent help
Dear Moderators
Is this forum now exhibitionist platform for the psychologically disturbed.
Regards
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.The Myth what we believe is benefit through knowledge with little difficulty, rather the Truth is we benefit little, that too temperorarily, with a greater difficulty.
Presumably you believe that it is a myth because you have knowledge of these things. How do you then then know that your knowledge only gives you little understanding, contrary to what you believe you understand, and what you understand is a myth is only mythical understanding of your understanding.
A typical example could be the present Modern Medicine for our health care. Initially for a child it starts with a single dose of medicine to cure a single disease, or a vaccine for prevention.
For example!
In the beginning, we get a relief, but sooner or later the side effects crops up into multivarious diseases.
More cliche nonsense. Do you want to provide few, or even one, example.
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What is God's role with born disabled?
When the human shaitans impiously allow their wombs to be invaded and meddled with by the specialist shaitans, the wombs begin to shrink and harden from which shaitans are alone delivered in human clothing as clones and clowns. Mostly the human clothed beings are created for hell.
Salaamun alayka,
Dr. I think you went one step to far here, don't you think?
532
I was wondering dr. if there is a pregnant woman who is dying and her baby too, would you help her or leave her dying?
Salaam,
Bender -
How to know if we are true followers of prophets and messengers?
We are to follow the prophets and messengers in essence and in perception quality, looking up to Allah alone, and believe we shall receive from Him the wisdom by His grace direct. Every prophet and messenger was abused by the rejecters as mad and psychologically disturbed. So will be the name earned by the bondsmen of Allah who strictly follow the messengers. Only if the bondsmen earn such name from the rejecters, they are truly in Allah's way.
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Salam,
BenderI appreciate your concern, but falling into the trap of MM is disastrous and close to committing suicide. The MM would get the signature from the wife and husband that the doctors would not be held responsible if the mother or the child dies; or even if both of them die during delivery.
Allah alone is the creator of life in the womb. But of all the systems of medicine, the MM alone arrogantly invades and meddles with the interior of the blessed womb, like postponing menstruation, surgical intervention like D & C, inserting copper-T, cutting and tying ip the fallopian tube, administration of dead and synthetic oestrogen, progesterone which would severely disturb or inhibit the natural and life enriched reproductive hormones by feed-back mechanism. This causes all sorts of menstrual disorder and uterine dysfunction leading to every complication the mother suffering during pregnancy and delivery. The MM's invasive and messing up methodologies involving scanning radiations is the cause of many genetic disorders. The vitamin B6, iron, calcium supplements severely damages the functioning ability of kidneys and cause even heart defects in the babies. Even the mothers end up in life threatening toxaemic pregnancies. Most maternal and foetal deaths occur only because of such arrogant interventions by MM. Most mothers suffer the beginning of diabetes for the first time is again due to the stress caused by the drugs administered to the mother in the name of prenatal care. They would immediately give it a name gestational diabetes. And soon they would become a diabetic patient. The growing foetus would get affected too with diabetes in its later stages of development after birth.
Any system of medicine can help in delivery because of their humility and fear for God. The only system to be shunned and thrown to dustbin is MM. From pregnancy to delivery, the highest mortality rate is only with MM. I have given so many links to support this truth in this thread, just two pages before. Please go through such links and you would know.
fazl
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The only system to be shunned and thrown to dustbin is MM. From pregnancy to delivery, the highest mortality rate is only with MM. I have given so many links to support this truth in this thread, just two pages before. Please go through such links and you would know
Another blatant lie. There is not single place on this God's earth, where the perinatal or maternal mortality is higher when modern obstetric facilities are available compared to the poor areas where the facilities are either limited or non existent.
Medical world has data both good and bad. You have been practicing for decades where is your data. For as God states if you are truthful then bring your proof. You have brought nothing but false hood. -
Peace Family,
I have nothing against adults who practice faith-healing of any sort because they are
adults and have the right to believe as they choose, I do have a problem with faith-
healing administered to children. drfazl, what is your position regarding the faith-
healing practice involving children?May all have a Blessed ramadan
O0
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Peace
Bender532 goes thus
Because of this did We ordain unto the children of Israel that if anyone slays a human being-unless it be for murder or for spreading corruption on earth-it shall be as though he had slain all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind. And, indeed, there came unto them Our apostles with all evidence of the truth yet, behold, notwithstanding all this, many of them go on committing all manner of excesses on earth.Corruption of life on this earth according to Quran is spreading the notion of association to God. There come unto them apostles such as Ibrahim, Ayyub with all evidence of this truth. Whoso makes one live on this earth in such manner shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind. Every messenger was sent with this truth when the people are afflicted with diseases and poverty.
- And, indeed, We sent Our messages unto people before your time, and seized them with diseases and poverty so that they might humble themselves
The MM is not humble or honest in its claim. But arrogance and transgression rules the roost.
fazl
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Peace zone
Similar to sufism, which Iam unaware off, I have heard about total surrender - saranagathy in the tamil hindu theology, which is encompassed in the fullest and the finest form in the latest, unalterable and last God's Scripture Quran.
By God's Grace, with the sign of unbelievable cure, interested me in Quran to believe in the unseen, beyond all forms and spheres of knowledge existing today.
General apprehension is that the Truth is complex, not so easy to tread, whereas the Myth, the earthly knowledge on the other hand, perceived through our outer senses leaving the inner voice in lurch, is easy for us to believe and proceed.
The Myth what we believe is benefit through knowledge with little difficulty, rather the Truth is we benefit little, that too temperorarily, with a greater difficulty.
A typical example could be the present Modern Medicine for our health care. Initially for a child it starts with a single dose of medicine to cure a single disease, or a vaccine for prevention.
In the beginning, we get a relief, but sooner or later the side effects crops up into multivarious diseases.
Thereupon we run from pillar to post for various doctors/hospitals as the diseases reaches chronic, whereupon the surgery takes over when medicine fails.
Meanwhile financially one would be bankrupt, to finally kick the bucket painfully. Hellish life starts here, and hereafter. This could happen over a period of many years from a child to adult/old age.
I appreciate your concern, and you can pray for me , for my pride should not openly/stealthly creep in to falsify the TRUTH.
Here is another example, how Truth is so simple, God willing one can understand.
Generally on an average assuming a person is diseased say 10% (36 days out of 365 days in a year) even on a higher side.
So, for the remaining 90% healthy period, who is responsible, whether self or knowledgeable person like Doctor ?
If so why I/WE should fail for this 10% period, while 90% period I/WE are successful ?
It is GOD who keeps us healthy, and allows us to be diseased for a short period, only to turn towards HIM for our ingratitude, unbelieving nature and to repent for the sin of association we commit.
All one has to do is to seek patience and forgiveness for us to be elevated in order, not to err again.
Going against this, by seeking others help would make this 10% diseased period to aggravate slowly and steadily to a greater period, until we are nailed down in the Lofty ICU, in a peaceless state.
Regards
BalaChandran
Peace dr fadzl and newmoon.
There is no end to this. In my view, drfazl has lifted himself, in the realm of powerful imagination, to be beyond human beings, to be in communion with the God and to feel god-like. Dr Fazl perspective and your perspective, newmoon, of Reality or Truth will never be in convergence with mine and many of us here. I have a feeling that this will never happen because I have encountered and debated with your kind before.
Sad to say you and I have different worldviews. To me, there is nothing filthy about the knowledge that we, as humans, have discovered and constructed with our minds pertaining to Allah?s creations. The only challenge is getting nearer to the truth about phenomena of creations, their meanings and laws in operation. Everything is definite and in perfect measure for us to define, classifies, describe, explain and understand fully. Our understanding of phenomena evolves with time.
To nullify this simple, plain truth as a fact of human existence, is the greatest falsehood. A simple commandment from Allah as in 2172 O believers, eat of the good things wherewith We have provided you, and give thanks to God, if it be Him that you serve, means we have to discover and learn a lot about nutrition, anatomy, food, hygiene and what not. Our lives, in this life, is about discovering information, to distinguish between truth (created by Allah) and falsehood (indoctrinated by satan).
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This is my way. This is my life.
Zone.
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Peace zone
There is no end to this. In my view, drfazl has lifted himself, in the realm of powerful imagination, to be beyond human beings, to be in communion with the God.
Dr Fazl perspective and your perspective, newmoon, of Reality or Truth will never be in convergence with mine and many of us here. I have a feeling that this will never happen because I have encountered and debated with your kind before.Sad to say you and I have different worldviews.
The only challenge is getting nearer to the truth about phenomena of creations, their meanings and laws in operation.
No need to be sad, definitely we would converge one day,
If instead of challenge,
If it is only, a growing WISH,
In getting nearer to the TRUTH about creations.
One day, the powerful imagination beyond
present human comprehension, would become a REALITY,
Only by HIS Admission.
Regards
BalaChandran
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In getting nearer to the TRUTH about creations.
One day, the powerful imagination beyond
present human comprehension, would become a REALITY,
Only by HIS Admission.
Submissiveness to God starts, only when I realize I'm wrong. All my knowledge keeps me in pride. My pride makes me believe this is right. This pride keeps me away, from God.
Peace br newmoon,
What you have quoted I agree.
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Peace everyone,
When I first heard through a friend of mine, that there is a Doctor who is treating patients without any medicine, the first word that came to my brain is "Fraud". This was in the year 2008. Why the word fraud - because it was unthinkable at that time, unbelievable and beyond my imagination. My brain/knowledge (shaitaan) didn't allow me to accept, understand or believe in it at first and that is why I thought it is fraud. May God forgive me for this and more.
All our knowledge is gained from books, hearsay from people and from what we see though our external eyes. We accept it readily, even when the data is cooked up sometimes. We were not taught to look beyond things, discern beyond what people say, look for hidden wisdom, think for ourselves - what is it I want or should wish for.
Years back, in my mind there were questions like - is there no cure for Blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, should we be on medicine life long... Have they never found a cure ... I saw movies where cancer patients go to such pitiable condition even while undergoing treatment and then die ultimately such a gory death after years of suffering. I heard from a docter who works in a cancer hospital how the patients suffer. The question lingered in my mind - no cure ??
Then I met Dr Fazl and started attending his meetings. Now I came to understand what causes disease and who to turn to for my need - cure. I have to turn to God, ask him to forgive me, cleanse me and heal me. The more my faith, the faster the cure. My question was answered.
There were so many questions and I kept asking and he answered them with utmost patience. I didn't understand I kept asking the same questions again. Now when I look back, I kept asking again because, it was not that I didn't understand the answer but it was unacceptable for my brain. Once I shed my knowledge, with God's help, I was able to accept it and God is pleased with such humility and ever since, my understanding has developed into amazement as to how God and His creations are.
That which does not increase, decreases or becomes stagnant/stale.
O God, help me to break free of the conditioning of my mind (closed mind) - that I know everything and what I know is correct.O God, help me to be open-minded to receive Truth.
O God, increase me in your wisdom.So the lesson I learnt is, if I don't understand it first, let me accept it and wait for understanding as it will definitely come. On what basis I am saying this. I have seen people suffering from chronic ailments for years, getting better and better and also, I have heard so many mothers delivering babies beautifully in their homes without any sort of medical help ( I visited some of them later).
Every delivery is unique. Some of them were told they will not have normal delivery - mother's hip bone is very narrow; baby's head is very large; baby's position is not upside down, there is no water inside the uterus, high/low blood pressure, first, second baby was through ceasarian. These were a few reasons told by doctors to the mothers. Eventually, they came to believe in God alone and they delivered normally, with God's help, comfortably in their homes.
Gita
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Peace
hawk99It is easy for those who believe in only Allah's words of truth. For example, you have heart pain. Your first reaction is panic. It is because, you hear to the noise of shaitan in your heart something terrible is going to happen. But prior to such cries of shaitan, Allah speaks to you to calm down and nothing to worry; I am with you if you are patient and listen to my words. When Allah is with you how can you go elsewhere seeking cure from people? This kind of belief is what I have. I do not care what people term it faith healing or otherwise. I in fact do not know what faith healing is. I only know I believe in all that which is said to my heart as good things as I know all goods come from Allah. And all evil against Allah's words are shaitans'.Take good things to heart and discard what is evil, whispered by shaitan. That is it. The good is effected. This is my practise.
With regard to children The patients adult or child when they come to me, I always pray to Allah, "If you cure this it would be a sign unto me from You, You are near; it wil increase and strengthen my belief in You." In every patient and all time my heart yearns for all goods come my way by His leave, so that my IMAN gets firmly implanted in my heart. So therein is a sign for me from Allah as per my prayer when it is answered; and the sign of cure is very much the same for the patients and the attendants of the child which they shall hold on to if the cure is to continue till end. If they do not it is just a sign for me that the patient is ok before me. Mostly the parents adhere to the belief and get their children better form their problems. Thus definitely, it is the patients or the parents belief that cured them and their children and not my prayer. My prayer is for my own iman's benefit. Thereafter it is up to the patients take it or leave it. But mostly the patients believe in One Allah, the Curer and seek His Grace to place their belief in Him alone. Every patient is very much concerned about their children and they seek the sign from Allah; and Allah duly delivers the fruits of such of their prayers. In this way, the children are a test only to their fathers and the children perse are not affected much heart wise.
If you have understood this, Allah shall send His Sign of healing to you and you can see the wonders happening in your life from every quarter. Surely my prayers are there for you. Allah if He will send His Sign unto me when you say Yes things are working! This should strengthen my Iman at the same time as you are being delivered of God's Grace. It is so easy. Believe only in Allah and nothing else.
Many of the people reject this approach to God alone to their own peril. And each one talks of faith-healing as if they knew them all. Definitely they are heavily the losers before God in the end, when they say O Allah, now we believe in you! On that their plea will not be heard.
hawk99, it is easy to practise in your life keeping Allah near you and driving shaitanic knowledge away. I do not know how far you wil follow. But my prayers are there. You are free to ask questions.
I say what I am and shall clarify any pertinent query; and am not here to argue or dispute others' views against this.
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Peace dr fadzl and newmoon.
There is no end to this. In my view, drfazl has lifted himself, in the realm of powerful imagination, to be beyond human beings, to be in communion with the God and to feel god-like. Dr Fazl perspective and your perspective, newmoon, of Reality or Truth will never be in convergence with mine and many of us here. I have a feeling that this will never happen because I have encountered and debated with your kind before.
I am living only by God's Providence; I have no imagination but from me is a plain narration as to what I am, based on the truth I have been placed; this information too, I said about me because you people repeatedly asked for it; and I have no god-like feel either. May I ask you from which part of my posts you got such weird suppositions about me? Nowhere I have debated on this topic for mostly I was put on the defensive. But I am being reminded of this ayat
"And they say Our hearts are under coverings from that to which you call us, and there is a heaviness in our ears, and a veil hangs between us and you, so work, we too are working."
Sad to say you and I have different worldviews. To me, there is nothing filthy about the knowledge that we, as humans, have discovered and constructed with our minds pertaining to Allah?s creations. The only challenge is getting nearer to the truth about phenomena of creations, their meanings and laws in operation. Everything is definite and in perfect measure for us to define, classifies, describe, explain and understand fully. Our understanding of phenomena evolves with time.
"And there is not a thing but with Us are the treasures of it, and We do not send it down but in a known measure."
"Say And you are not given aught of knowledge but a little."
Now who is trying to lift himself, in the realm of powerful imagination, to be beyond human beings, to be in communion with the God and to feel god-like? Is it not you and your kind of people?
Peace
drfazl -
hawk99, it is easy to practise in your life keeping Allah near you and driving shaitanic knowledge away. I do not know how far you wil follow. But my prayers are there. You are free to ask questions.
I say what I am and shall clarify any pertinent query; and am not here to argue or dispute others' views against this.Thank you drfazl for your explanation.
Generous ramadan to you
peace