I pray 5 times dag, its that wrong?

Aaleyah

salaam+

Most of the things that you have said about Muslims are completely untrue. They would find it extremely insulting and then say that you are nothing but a distorter. That does not mean that everything that certain Muslims say are true. Just continue to seek knowledge! My suggestion to you is follow the islaam that you were originally taught and after a full study correct yourself as to what you understand is best for you. Do not enter islaam by the wrong opinion of other Muslims. That is my best advice to you. I very seldom have answered someone as much as I have tried to answer you. I fear that you will be thrown completely off track in another wilderness of confusion. May ALLAAH guide all inshaa ALLAAH.

I dont care what you say. I know self what true islam is. Now Iam angry. I have read the quran now and i have found that Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is a big prophet. So i will continoue say the normaly prayer. In the Quran is say that People who dont think muhammed is big, dont think God is big.

I just follow the truth. I read the Quran self. And found the truth

al-amiyr

I dont care what you say. I know self what true islam is. Now Iam angry. I have read the quran now and i have found that Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is a big prophet. So i will continoue say the normaly prayer. In the Quran is say that People who dont think muhammed is big, dont think God is big.

I just follow the truth. I read the Quran self. And found the truth

Why are you angry? For what reason?

farida

Red highlight above is from me.
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2nd After your second SUJDAH in your second RUK'AH, sit, and simply say "Ash-hadu-allaa-ilaaha-illALLAAHU, wahhdahu, laa shareeka lah". Then stand up for the third RUK'AH. If you're doing your last ruk'ah then right after the above SHAHAADAH, say your SALAAM as you always do and finish your salaat.

Peace,
Khalil

salaam

I have seen many on this forum mocking the rites and rituals of umra/hajj. Such mockery does create doubt in one's mind, but I have kept my feeling neutral, as I was taken 'back stage', on Channel 4 a few years back. I saw millions of Muslims, despite being so undisciplined in every day life, were offering prayers in a unified ordered manner during hajj. This scene left the TV commentator gobsmacked; he kept saying "amazing scene"! Recently I was gobsmacked as I've come to understand the significance of all the rites of hajj and umra. I am sure that, once the world understand those signs, no doubts will remain who is rightly guided.

At the moment I am not fully sure about prayers; how many, how to do it right etc. so until I acquire a solid understanding I continue to pray traditional number of raka, as above, making sure to be focused on the qibla.

AS-SALAWAAT must be at least 4 to have a MIDDLE room for AS-SALAATULWUSTA, i.e. 2, as-salaatulwustaa, 2.
Therefore, the minimum number of daily sallaats are 2+1(middle prayer)+2=5

You say above that SALAWAAT must be which shows you are not sure and then you go on to say Therefore, the minimum number of daily sallaats are ..... what sort of conclusion is that confused

Now I have 2 questions for you then right after the above SHAHAADAH, say your SALAAM
saying salaam to whom and why?
Secondly its a matter of decent etiquette to say thanks to those who do you a favour, or to send blessings to those who have done you great favour, so how does one do that?

salaam

al-amiyr

... I have read the quran now and i have found that Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is a big prophet.

Surely he is. Whoever says otherwise has lost his or her way.

kgwithnob

So can my prayer be like this

Allahu Akbar.

Bismillah ir Rahman irahim alhamdollillah rabil alamin. Aramanir Rahim maliki javmidin. ijaka nabudu wa ijaka nastain. indinas sirital mustacim. siratal latina an amta alahhim. wa lad dalin amin.

Bismillah ir Rahman irahim qul hu lahu ahad allahu samad jam valid wa lam youlad. walam jakun lahu kufuwan ahad.

allahu Akbar

subana rabil admin

sami allahu liman rabana walaka hamd

allahu Akbar

subana rabil lala

rabbi g firli

subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala
subana rabil lala

At taiyatu lillah was salawatu wat talibat. ashadu anla illaha illa la. alamina intake hamidum maijid.

as salamu alikum la

it s that good?

Yes sister. As long as your salaat is for ALLAAH's REMEMBRANCE and for His COMMEMORATION alone, you are following The Qur'aan.

Peace,
Khalil

farida

Yes sister. As long as your salaat is for ALLAAH's REMEMBRANCE and for His COMMEMORATION alone, you are following The Qur'aan.

Peace,
Khalil

The Arabic word dhikr has a rather wider meaning than any of the above English words.
Peace

kgwithnob

At the moment I am not fully sure about prayers; how many, how to do it right etc. so until I acquire a solid understanding I continue to pray traditional number of raka, as above, making sure to be focused on the qibla.

Just follow the people in your mosque, but do not mention other than ALLAAH, swt, in your salaat and ATHZAAN.

You say above that SALAWAAT must be which shows you are not sure and then you go on to say Therefore, the minimum number of daily sallaats are ..... what sort of conclusion is that confused

All I was trying to get across is that the verse 2238 sets the minimum number of daily ritual prayers/SALAATS at 5 times a day, and I am SURE about that.

Now I have 2 questions for you then right after the above SHAHAADAH, say your SALAAM
saying salaam to whom and why?

Finishing congregational salaat you turn your face to the person on your right and say "Assalaamu alaykum wa rahhmatullaah", then to the one on your left and say the same, like its been practiced for centuries from the beginning.

Secondly its a matter of decent etiquette to say thanks to those who do you a favour, or to send blessings to those who have done you great favour, so how does one do that?

I don't quite understand this question. If you mean mentioning of Muhammad and Ebraaheem and their families and others in your salaat, then that is against The Qur'aan.

Peace,
Khalil

diamantinehoneybunch

I dont care what you say. I know self what true islam is. Now Iam angry. I have read the quran now and i have found that Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is a big prophet. So i will continoue say the normaly prayer. In the Quran is say that People who dont think muhammed is big, dont think God is big.

I just follow the truth. I readhi the Quran self. And found the truth

So you totally reject the fact that salat must only mention and glorify God alone?
So you totally reject the truth in the Quran that we are not allowed to make distinction between prophets?

I love Muhammad but it doesn't mean I have to idolize, worship and SET HIM UP AS PARTNER WITH GOD.

So you are saying that Muhammad was superior whilst Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah et cetera were inferior? You make distinction between prophets and glorify Muhammad, Abraham and their families in your SALAT and set up Muhammad as partner with GOD?
I don't understand while there are so many people give Muhammad a god-like status.

Anyways, yes, he was a great person.

Aaleyah

Yes sister. As long as your salaat is for ALLAAH's REMEMBRANCE and for His COMMEMORATION alone, you are following The Qur'aan.

Peace,
Khalil

Salam!

I understand. Im just little confusted because im afraid I have to say Muhammeds (pbuh) name too. Because many muslims do it. I dont want to came to hell. But im agree With you. muhammed (pbuh) is a big prophet but not like God. So I shall listening to you who knows more than I and say the prayer With just the name of Allah

Aaleyah

So you totally reject the fact that salat must only mention and glorify God alone?
So you totally reject the truth in the Quran that we are not allowed to make distinction between prophets?

I love Muhammad but it doesn't mean I have to idolize, worship and SET HIM UP AS PARTNER WITH GOD.

So you are saying that Muhammad was superior whilst Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah et cetera were inferior? You make distinction between prophets and glorify Muhammad, Abraham and their families in your SALAT and set up Muhammad as partner with GOD?
I don't understand while there are so many people give Muhammad a god-like status.

Anyways, yes, he was a great person.

Salam!

No no, i dont reject that totally. Im justy afraid that I pray on the wrong way since the most muslims say Muhammeds (pbuh) name. But im agree With you. I have think about it this night, and dreamt about it. and you have right. I have to pray to Allah alone.

diamantinehoneybunch

You make very bold and false statements about others based upon either willful distortion or extreme ignorance.

VERY GOOD BRO.
Thanks for attacking me without giving me the proof that I am wrong.

Aamer

Salam!

No no, i dont reject that totally. Im justy afraid that I pray on the wrong way since the most muslims say Muhammeds (pbuh) name. But im agree With you. I have think about it this night, and dreamt about it. and you have right. I have to pray to Allah alone.

Alhamdulillah. Yes. We have to pray to ALLAH ALONE. Allah is the one who created this perfect universe, made rain fall from the clouds, made the sun shine, so that fruits and vegetables grow so that we have food to eat and a means to live. Allah did this. Not Muhammad. Muhammad delivered Allah's message and did a great job. Muhammad was a great MAN and prophet and trust me, he doesn't need our blessings. But only Allah is worthy of worship. Do you really think that when Prophet Muhammad was alive, he sent blessings on himself during Salat? Did he recite "Durood", which isn't even in Quran? Or did he worship Allah alone? Be honest with yourself. What do YOU think?

The only difference between Christians and Sunnis is that... Christians openly worship Jesus. Sunnis won't admit it, but they worship Muhammad.

Aaleyah

Alhamdulillah. Yes. We have to pray to ALLAH ALONE. Allah is the one who created this perfect universe, made rain fall from the clouds, made the sun shine, so that fruits and vegetables grow so that we have food to eat and a means to live. Allah did this. Not Muhammad. Muhammad delivered Allah's message and did a great job. Muhammad was a great MAN and prophet and trust me, he doesn't need our blessings. But only Allah is worthy of worship. Do you really think that when Prophet Muhammad was alive, he sent blessings on himself during Salat? Did he recite "Durood", which isn't even in Quran? Or did he worship Allah alone? Be honest with yourself. What do YOU think?

The only difference between Christians and Sunnis is that... Christians openly worship Jesus. Sunnis won't admit it, but they worship Muhammad.

i think Mohammed worshiped God alone. Im sure about that.

al-amiyr

The only difference between Christians and Sunnis is that... Christians openly worship Jesus. Sunnis won't admit it, but they worship Muhammad.

salaam+

How can you make such a false statement,"Sunnis won't admit it, but they worship Muhammad.". On what bases do you make such a statement? Do you worship lies, but will not admit it?

al-amiyr

i think Mohammed worshiped God alone. Im sure about that.

But of cause he worshiped God alone. That is why you are now worshiping God alone just as others are now on this forum also making the same proclamations of worshiping God alone. Your and their fore fathers were idol worshipers and then God sent muhammad(S+) with the religion of truth to destroy falsehood and all forms of worship besides God. There is nothing uncertain about this. Scholars and historians are agreed upon this.

farida

Just follow the people in your mosque, but do not mention other than ALLAAH, swt, in your salaat and ATHZAAN.
Peace,
Khalil

What!!!!! you want me to follow the head sheep among the heard ???
you advice returned

All I was trying to get across is that the verse 2238 sets the minimum number of daily ritual prayers/SALAATS at 5 times a day, and I am SURE about that
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You maybe sure about it but I have No DOUBT about Slaa anymore I learned, step by step first thing this morning from His knowledge.
May ALLAAH guide all to learn of His knowledge inshaa ALLAAH

Finishing congregational salaat you turn your face to the person on your right and say "Assalaamu alaykum wa rahhmatullaah", then to the one on your left and say the same, like its been practiced for centuries from the beginning

Again!!!! a sheep turning head to greet another sheep?
Now my question for you who to say salaam turning head if the sheep is praying on his own?

I don't quite understand this question

I am not surprised.
Respected brother,
I wrote to you in the post just above your this reply regarding 'dhakir' which you ignored, I read many of your post and do sense your passion for knowledge I see in your Reply 31 above a mixed up between Slaa and dhkir, this time allow me to give you reference from the Qur?aan 4103 And when you have completed the prayer, remember Allah standing, sitting, or on your sides .......
Bit of my understanding below

Requirement for Slaa you need ;

Before Slaa
a.) wadu / purification of bodily side
b.) Clear mind free from all sorts of intoxicant so that you know what you are saying.

a.) As you raise your hand to your head to start saying ALLAAHu Akbar you disconnect from world around and your face, nafs/mind focused on qibla
b.) your outward/ bodily actions signify greater depth regarding signs and number of raka dealing with calculations etc, which I am praying to learn that soon insha?ALLAAH

dhkir/ ALLAAH's REMEMBRANCE and His COMMEMORATION

a) No requirement for wadu and as you are in the middle of mixing up with world around you, do zikr in that state ie remember your creator.
b) No formal action/positions required.

salaam +

al-amiyr

In islaam there are five prayers when at rest and 3 when in motion ( e.g. traveling).

At rest there are

prayer time 1
prayer time 2
prayer time 3
prayer time 4
prayer time 5

When in motion there are

prayer time 1 + prayer time 2 (united in one)
prayer time 3
prayer time 4 + prayer time 5 (united in one)

Every prayer has a meaning why it is performed.

farida

In islaam there are five prayers when at rest and 3 when in motion ( e.g. traveling).

At rest there are

prayer time 1
prayer time 2
prayer time 3
prayer time 4
prayer time 5

When in motion there are

prayer time 1 + prayer time 2 (united in one)
prayer time 3
prayer time 4 + prayer time 5 (united in one)

Every prayer has a meaning why it is performed.

salaam +
I know you expect your students not to rely on you and seek guidance form ALLAAH so this confirmation is such a relief for me
God bless you my brother.
farida

salaam+
jazaakhallaah khair
+salaam 'akhiy and Shukran for clearing that up! )

faruk

In islaam there are five prayers when at rest and 3 when in motion ( e.g. traveling).

At rest there are

prayer time 1
prayer time 2
prayer time 3
prayer time 4
prayer time 5

When in motion there are

prayer time 1 + prayer time 2 (united in one)
prayer time 3
prayer time 4 + prayer time 5 (united in one)

Every prayer has a meaning why it is performed.

Salam, Will you please elaborate , how you come to this conclussion?

kgwithnob

What!!!!! you want me to follow the head sheep among the heard ???
you advice returned.

Salaam Dear Sister,

Please remember, our discussion here is about SALAAT, how many times a day, how to perform it, when to perform it, and so on. When I said just follow the people in your mosque, I meant follow the way they perform the daily SALAATS, except that YOU do NOT mention or commemorate anyone in YOUR's but ALLAAH, swt. Other than that there is no difference between our DAILY SALAAT and their. Also, when you do ATHZAAN, do just the same, don't call anyone's name but ALLAAH, swt in YOUR athzaan. That is all.

Again!!!! a sheep turning head to greet another sheep?

Again!!! The ULTIMATE judge is ALLAAH, swt. I personally cannot allow myself to sit in judgment of others. GOD gives life, GOD guides, GOD causes death, GOD resurrects us all if He wills, and He is the ULTIMATE JUDGE between us, inshaaALLAAH. All we can do is to follow the principle of "VICE and VIRTUE" toward others and ask GOD that He guides us all to His straight path.

Now my question for you who to say salaam turning head if the sheep is praying on his own?

The servant of GOD (the "SHEEP" in your words) can still turns face to right and left, saying "Assalaamu alaykum wa rahhmatullaah" and finishes the sallaat. Now if it doesn't make sense to YOU, you can say "SUBHHAANALLAAH" instead. It is still "ZIKR" of ALLAAH, swt.

Respected brother,
I wrote to you in the post just above your this reply regarding 'dhakir' which you ignored, I read many of your post and do sense your passion for knowledge I see in your Reply 31 above a mixed up between Slaa and dhkir, this time allow me to give you reference from the Qur?aan 4103 And when you have completed the prayer, remember Allah standing, sitting, or on your sides .......
Bit of my understanding below

Requirement for Slaa you need ;

Before Slaa
a.) wadu / purification of bodily side
b.) Clear mind free from all sorts of intoxicant so that you know what you are saying.

a.) As you raise your hand to your head to start saying ALLAAHu Akbar you disconnect from world around and your face, nafs/mind focused on qibla
b.) your outward/ bodily actions signify greater depth regarding signs and number of raka dealing with calculations etc, which I am praying to learn that soon insha?ALLAAH

dhkir/ ALLAAH's REMEMBRANCE and His COMMEMORATION

a) No requirement for wadu and as you are in the middle of mixing up with world around you, do zikr in that state ie remember your creator.
b) No formal action/positions required.

1st I could not find any other meaning for the word "ZIKR/DHIKR", but "remembrance", "mentioning", "speaking of", "talking about", and "commemoration".

2nd You are correct. One can do ZIKR or remember ALLAAH, swt, at all times without any preparation.

3rd Performing SALLAAT on the other hand, as you mentioned requires certain preparations, but ZIKR is still an integral part of every daily SALAAT. We need to do ZIKR of ALLAAH, swt, during our SALAAT, while standing, bowing down, prostrating, and sitting.

Peace,
Khalil