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    nonplus
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    #206

    Salam Bender,

    It is clear that you know what I'm talking about, but maybe it's just you want to show you are superior than others, without any valid or proper reasons. In fact, I repeatedly told you what I'm referring to.

    and when I asked you ... whether you understand what I means with Asma Ul Husna

    here is your answer...

    It is clear that you just want to be right or want to be superior to others without valid reasons.

    Further, who are discussing your definition of Asma Ul Husna? Did I ask you?

    and where is the word "AlAsma AlHusna" in the following verse?

    Did you really understand what you read?

    According to you, Asma Ul Husna is "To Him belongs" or "The Best Identifiers" ? hmm

    "Lahu" is not Allah names.

    Even the "The Best Identifiers" is not Allah names.

    handshake

    Peace brother.

    "AlAsma AlHusna" are the two (2) words after "Lahu". He explained clearly what "Lahu" means and why he highlighted it.

    Also the point about "khalifa" was delivered very clearly, too.

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      "AlAsma AlHusna" are the two (2) words after "Lahu". He explained clearly what "Lahu" means and why he highlighted it.

      Also the point about "khalifa" was delivered very clearly, too.

      Salam,

      Sorry my mistake, what I meant is the names, Allah's names. "Lahu" and "The Best Identifiers" are not Allah names, neither is AlAsma AlHusna. Further, my reference is to the "Asma Ul Husna" understood by the majority of Muslim, and "The Best Identifiers" is not necessarily specific names, but can also be in general; such as Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

      Peace brother.

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        Salam,

        Sorry my mistake, what I meant is the names, Allah's names. "Lahu" and "The Best Identifiers" are not Allah names, neither is AlAsma AlHusna. Further, my reference is to the "Asma Ul Husna" understood by the majority of Muslim, and "The Best Identifiers" is not necessarily specific names, but can also be in general; such as Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

        Peace brother.

        Can you please show a reference from the Quran where God calls himself "Al-`Adl"? This way, Bender can add it to his great list.

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          muslims
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          #209

          Can you please show a reference from the Quran where God calls himself "Al-`Adl"? This way, Bender can add it to his great list.

          Salam nonplus,

          You can understand our discussion by clicking on the following links.

          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336345#msg336345

          Quote from Bender on August 26, 2013, 082632 AM

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          Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604

          Salaamun alayka,

          Do you have a verse for this statement?

          Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 085851 AM
          Not specifically and I'm referring to the asma ul husna.

          Quote from muslims on August 26, 2013, 090639 PM
          As I said, the "asma ul husna"

          Quote from muslims on August 27, 2013, 084844 PM
          It is true, the specific words are not in the Qur'an

          "The Best Identifiers" is not necessarily specific names, but can also be in general; such as Allah The Just, Al-`Adl (&#1604.

          The root 'a-d-l has the following classical Arabic connotations

          • to act justly, fairly
          • to be equitable, impartial
          • to adjust properly, to make even
          • to straighten, to rectify, to establish justice
          • to balance, counterbalance, to make equal, uniform
          • to turn one away from something, rightly direct
          • to make comfortable with what is right

          The One who rectifies and sets matters straight in a fair, impartial and equitable manner.
          The One who always acts justly.
          The One who delivers absolute justice.
          The One whose wisdom of justice is based upon complete knowledge of past, present and future.

          Peace brother.

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            #210

            The destructive aspect of the fire element.

            • The importance of Spirituality (water) & Communication/Humanism (Air) Salt water oceans make up 71% of the Earth?s surface. However, it should exceed 71% if it includes the freshwater lakes and glaciers that cover the Earth?s surface. The air is everywhere and takes up space. These indicate the importance of spirituality and communication or humanism in our life.

            The core of the Earth is fire (religion/God Alone ideas etc.) and relates to the following concept, "Mind our own business" (<a href="http//quran.com/5/105">5105</a&gt. This because if we are giving primary importance to the fire elements, it will burn this whole world down. War and hatred etc., and soon there will be no living creatures on Earth.

            http//s15.postimg.org/wcikp8hwb/earth_core.jpg
            http//s24.postimg.org/ebh5sqdth/fire.png

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              #211

              The Common Aspects of Religions

              http//s13.postimg.org/6hprb216f/religionelement.png

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                #212

                http//s16.postimg.org/cyvakuyx1/deen.png

                Towards Human Unity

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335929#msg335929">Tests from Allah</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335256#msg335256">Main Issue</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">What is God Alone Religion? </a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335690#msg335690">Defintion of Just and Balance (Sunnatullah)</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335855#msg335855">What is Islam?</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Prostrate to Adam</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336532#msg336532">The Common Aspects of Religions.</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335571#msg335571">Which is the right religion ?</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336528#msg336528">The destructive aspect of the fire element.</a>

                Islam is not a religion (madhab)

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335361#msg335361">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335823#msg335823">The Quranic Concept of Salvation</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335261#msg335261">Allah will never accept Religion of Islam</a>

                Examle of Deen <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336008#msg336008">1</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335737#msg335737">2</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335738#msg335738">3</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335739#msg335739">4</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335740#msg335740">5</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335741#msg335741">6</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335742#msg335742">7</a>.

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335531#msg335531">Purpose of creation</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335579#msg335579">What is "Sirat al-Mustaqim"?</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">What does Adam represent?</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Descendants of Adam.</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335266#msg335266">Who is a Muslim?</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335603#msg335603">The "DO NOT" prohibition</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336452#msg336452">Hadith & Sects.</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336423#msg336423">Sura</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605770.msg336428#msg336428">Prohibition</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335928#msg335928">Impossible for people who i'tiqad to disobey Allah to enter Paradise.</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Muslim Job Scope</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">Purpose of Life</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335891#msg335891">Alhamdu</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336009#msg336009">Allah Alone is no use for our salvation</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336010#msg336010">Duty Awareness Program (Deen)</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">What is Right or Wrong?</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336077#msg336077">The Qur'an is about us.</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335263#msg335263">Duty To Ourselves</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335265#msg335265">Understanding The Quran</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335283#msg335283">Language of the Heart</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335515#msg335515">What is Reality?</a> <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335521#msg335521">(2)</a>, <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335524#msg335524">(3)</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335788#msg335788">Qur'an is an introductory Book, Guidance or Manual.</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335810#msg335810">Signs</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335950#msg335950">Pleasure</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336130#msg336130">Dictionary of the Qur'an</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Solat</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335474#msg335474">True Solat is Jihad?</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for Success</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335483#msg335483">First Step - Fire</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">Formula for Unity - Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335880#msg335880">Towards Human Unity</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335750#msg335750">Unconditional Freedom</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336189#msg336189">The Flow of Ideas</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336234#msg336234">Example of Quranic Ideas</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336219#msg336219">Ideas of Just and Balance</a>

                <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336265#msg336265">When Being Wrong Is Right</a>

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                  <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">The Matrix of Just and Balance For Our Salvation</a>

                  Allah has promised
                  those who have believed among you <- 100% obedience
                  and done righteous deeds <- towards human unity

                  that He will surely grant them succession upon the earth
                  just as He granted it to those before them

                  and that He will surely establish for them their deen
                  which He has preferred for them

                  and that He will surely substitute for them
                  after their fear
                  security

                  they worship Me
                  not associating anything with Me

                  But whoever disbelieves after that
                  then those are the defiantly disobedient
                  (<a href="http//quran.com/24/55">2455</a&gt

                  Ignominy shall be their portion
                  wheresoever they are found

                  save (where they grasp)

                  a rope from Allah <- 100% obedience
                  and
                  a rope from men <- towards human unity
                  (<a href="http//quran.com/3/112">3112</a&gt

                  http//s16.postimg.org/cyvakuyx1/deen.png

                  <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335476#msg335476">negotiator - mediator - conciliator</a>

                  Sponsor two friends..

                  1. Obedience (Qur'an Study Group -> solely for listing and observing the "DO NOT" prohibition)

                  2. Works toward unity or promoting peace and harmony in...

                  -> Family

                  -> Friends

                  -> Customers & Employees (Your Business) or Co-workers -> Treat them as your family.
                  (<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for success</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a&gt

                  • this forum or any other platform or NGO could exist as monitoring to training center etc.

                  • Strictly to promote unity, peace and harmony. Must not involve politics and religious agenda etc.

                  The Theory
                  Towards Human Unity
                  Peace and Harmony

                  http//s22.postimg.org/o70schgb1/deens.png
                  http//s15.postimg.org/5yoklx1vr/down_arrow_icon.png
                  http//s23.postimg.org/6w09q8z63/deenmlm.png
                  http//s15.postimg.org/5yoklx1vr/down_arrow_icon.png
                  http//s8.postimg.org/fa74u23f9/mlm.png
                  http//s15.postimg.org/5yoklx1vr/down_arrow_icon.png
                  Just and Balance
                  Peace & Harmony
                  in the society

                  For example Very Large Scale

                  Level Team
                  1 2
                  2 4
                  3 8
                  4 16
                  5 32
                  6 64
                  7 128
                  8 256
                  9 512
                  10 1,024
                  11 2,048
                  12 4,096
                  13 8,192
                  14 16,384
                  15 32,768
                  16 65,536
                  17 131,072
                  18 262,144
                  19 524,288
                  20 1,048,576
                  21 2,097,152
                  22 4,194,304
                  23 8,388,608
                  24 16,777,216
                  25 33,554,432
                  26 67,108,864
                  27 134,217,728
                  28 268,435,456
                  29 536,870,912
                  30 1,073,741,824
                  31 2,147,483,648
                  32 4,294,967,296
                  33 8,589,934,592
                  34 17,179,869,184
                  35 34,359,738,368
                  36 68,719,476,736
                  37 137,438,953,472
                  38 274,877,906,944
                  39 549,755,813,888
                  40 1,099,511,627,776
                  41 2,199,023,255,552
                  42 4,398,046,511,104
                  43 8,796,093,022,208
                  44 17,592,186,044,416
                  45 35,184,372,088,832
                  46 70,368,744,177,664
                  47 140,737,488,355,328
                  48 281,474,976,710,656
                  49 562,949,953,421,312
                  50 1,125,899,906,842,620

                  How many persons to monitor at level 50?

                  100 persons!

                  You
                  (each will do the same)
                  +-----------+
                  Level 1 -> 1 1
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                  1 1
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                  1 1
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                  1 1
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                  ... ...

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                  Level 50 -> 1 1
                  Total 50 ppls + 50 ppls
                  Total 100 persons

                  Question.. <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335931#msg335931">how to simplify and standardize?</a>

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                    #214

                    Towards human unity...

                    He has made plain to you <-- What is Islam
                    of the Din (l-dni)
                    what He enjoined upon Nuh
                    and that which We have revealed to you
                    and that which We enjoined upon Ibrahim
                    and Musa
                    and Isa
                    that keep to obedience <- 100% obedience
                    and be not divided therein < towards human unity

                    ... .. . . . .

                    To this then go on inviting <-- Task for Muslims
                    and go on steadfastly <- refer to the above sponsorship program - Duty Awareness
                    on the right way
                    as you are commanded
                    and do not follow their low desires <- don't argue with them, focus on unity, peace and harmony
                    and say What is a Mushrikeen? (<a href="http//quran.com/30/30-32">3030-32</a&gt

                    I believe in what Allah has revealed of the Book
                    and I am commanded to do justice between you <-- role as Mediators and Conciliators
                    Allah is our Lord and your Lord vs. Provoker & create more divisions
                    we shall have our deeds
                    and you shall have your deeds
                    no plea need there be (now) between us and you <- no argument! ignore right/wrong &
                    Allah will gather us together focus on unity, peace and harmony
                    and to Him is the return

                    (<a href="http//quran.com/42/10-16">4210-16</a&gt

                    A Muslim must now learn how to become Negotiator, Mediator and Conciliator. There is no religion and it is not about to spread Islam, since Islam is not a religion. It is about to spread peace, harmony and unity in the society. It's about benefiting humanity, kindness to His creation and giving to relatives. This is how people from different backgrounds and traditions are able to accept Islam by our Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Unconditional acceptance (respect) of world religious practices and balancing what is just to every living creatures. This is "Din of Islam".

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                      Why the matrix?

                      The power of leverage.. opt and opm.

                      Sponsor two friends..

                      1. Obedience (Qur'an Study Group -> solely for listing and observing the "DO NOT" prohibition)

                      2. Works toward unity or promoting peace and harmony in...

                      -> Family

                      -> Friends

                      -> Customers & Employees (Your Business) or Co-workers -> Treat them as your family.
                      (<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335659#msg335659">Formula for success</a> + <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335472#msg335472">Philosophy of Salat</a&gt

                      • this forum or any other platform or NGO could exist as monitoring to training center etc.

                      • Strictly to promote unity, peace and harmony. Must not involve politics and religious agenda etc.

                      http//s23.postimg.org/6w09q8z63/deenmlm.png

                      bilateral matrix, prostrate to Allah and Adam (<a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">descendants</a&gt...

                      and

                      How Allah will multiplies His reward for your effort, time and money spend on your family, friends and customers etc.. to promote unity, peace, harmony, and supporting them emotionally, psychologically, financially, socially and etc.

                      The example of those who spend their wealth
                      in the way of Allah
                      is like a seed <- you
                      which grows seven spikes <- the above image, 7 persons - first group
                      in each spike is a hundred grains <- 100 persons straight below you
                      And Allah multiplies for whom He wills
                      And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
                      (<a href="http//quran.com/2/261">2261</a&gt

                      100 grains

                      How many persons to monitor at level 50?

                      100 persons!

                      Steps - "We Are Family"

                      1. You -> benefiting your family, friends and your customers/employees/co-workers -> as your family!
                        (regardless of religion, caste, race, socio-economic background etc .. including non-human - jinn)

                      2. 7 persons -> 2 (your team) + 5 (sponsor your member to build their team, exemplary leadership)

                      3. help 100 persons straight below you (to strengthen your foundation)

                      4. spread... "..Allah multiplies for whom He wills.."

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                        For you is your deen
                        (War Zone - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335480#msg335480">God Alone</a> - Right vs. Wrong)
                        and
                        For me is my deen
                        (Unity - <a href="http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg335753#msg335753">Prostrate to Adam</a> - All from Allah and "I Submit&quot
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/109/6">1096</a&gt

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                        Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

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                        Now, just a philosophical statement... as to the meaning of solat

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                        Jihad Salat

                        And those who believe in Allah and His Messengers
                        they are the Siddiqun
                        and the martyrs (syahid) with their Lord
                        they shall have their reward and their light
                        But those who disbelieve
                        and deny Our Ayat (disobedience)
                        they shall be the dwellers of the blazing Fire
                        (<a href="http//quran.com/57/19">5719</a&gt

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                          al-amiyr
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                          +salaam brother muslims

                          All your works are beautiful. Great thoughts behind them. And more than most I see a very sincere man who loves ALLAAH. Again, I enjoy reading all your work. You have great skill in setting out knowledge. I can learn a lot from you in this regard. Thank you for sharing them.

                          +salaam
                          al-amiyr

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                            +salaam brother muslims

                            All your works are beautiful. Great thoughts behind them. And more than most I see a very sincere man who loves ALLAAH. Again, I enjoy reading all your work. You have great skill in setting out knowledge. I can learn a lot from you in this regard. Thank you for sharing them.

                            +salaam
                            al-amiyr

                            +salaam brother al-amiyr

                            Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

                            +salaam
                            muslims

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                              +salaam brother al-amiyr

                              Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

                              +salaam
                              muslims

                              +salaam+ brother muslims

                              As you said that you learn -good and bad- so have I in all my life. I have denied myself the investigation of no information-good and bad. Also I have always changed my views for the better in the presence of valid arguments. I have also always loved debate and have always presented my arguments for solid criticism so that I could learn how to improve it for the better. I have no doubt in my mind that ALLAAH has a plan for you which will become manifest to you when the time is right inshaa ALLAAH. Continue on your journey to seek all knowledge! Justly balanced!

                              +salaam
                              al-amiyr

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                                +salaam+ brother muslims

                                As you said that you learn -good and bad- so have I in all my life. I have denied myself the investigation of no information-good and bad. Also I have always changed my views for the better in the presence of valid arguments. I have also always loved debate and have always presented my arguments for solid criticism so that I could learn how to improve it for the better. I have no doubt in my mind that ALLAAH has a plan for you which will become manifest to you when the time is right inshaa ALLAAH. Continue on your journey to seek all knowledge! Justly balanced!

                                +salaam
                                al-amiyr

                                +salaam+ brother al-amiyr

                                There is nothing wrong with to deny good or bad. It is also "Justly balanced!", for each of us and all living creatures. It doesn't matter which side we are today. However, we just need to let Allah control our lives and enjoy our rides.

                                +salaam
                                muslims

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                                  Beyond Religion -> Sunnatullah

                                  DIN?this word has been used in various contexts, among them being ascendancy, sovereignty, management, conduct of affairs, ruling power, mastership, ownership, exercise of power, code of law, constitution, law of requital, an order. The Quran has described Islam as Ad-Din, which is generally translated as religion. However, in the light of the above meanings, it should be clear that this is not only incorrect, but distorts and negates the very meaning of din. Islam is not a religion (madhab), and it has never been described as one in the Quran. Islam is a way of life, a system, a code of law. In the external universe Islam signifies the Divine Order that governs life and the movement of the entire universe. The whole purpose of the Quran is to establish a universal order based on the Divinely ordained values of life. This is ad-din; <a href="http//www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/ICR/ICR.htm">Islam A Challenge to Religion</a>

                                  Say, "O disbelievers,

                                  I do not worship what you worship <- Prostrate to God Alone, accordingly, any god/religion.
                                  Nor are you worshippers of what I worship <- Prostrate to Allah & Adam (Humanity), Sunnatullah.

                                  Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship <- Religious People & God Alone Concept.
                                  Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship <- Upright man - Unity, regardless of religion etc.

                                  For you is your deen <- Religion - Right or wrong - Fire Element.
                                  and for me is my deen <- Deen - Unity - Sunnatullah - Justly balanced - Fire/Earth/Air/Water.
                                  (109)

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                                  Ibrahim was not a Jew <- Ibrahim has no religion. So as Muhammad, not a Jew/Christian (religion).
                                  nor a Christian http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                  but he was (an) upright (man) <- showing a great concern for what is right, fair and truthful way
                                  a Muslim <- defined by the above ayat - an upright man - obedience and justly balanced.
                                  and he was not one of the polytheists <- Concern with right/wrong in religious matters - 3030-32

                                  Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim
                                  are those
                                  who followed him
                                  and this Prophet
                                  and those who believe
                                  and Allah is the guardian of the believers
                                  (367-6

                                  And whoever seeks a "dnan" (&#1575 other than Islam <- Religion of Islam vs. Deen of Islam
                                  it will NEVER be accepted of him
                                  and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
                                  (385)

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                                    Comparison

                                    A comparative study of religion or madhhab, and din, should help us understand the vital and fundamental characteristics of each and the differences between the two

                                    1. Madhhab is merely some sort of subjective experience and is concerned only with the so-called private relationship between God and man.

                                    Din is an objective reality and a system of collective life.

                                    1. Every follower of a madhhab is satisfied that he has established a communion with the Almighty, and the objective of each individual is his own salvation.

                                    The aim of din on the other hand is the welfare and progress of all mankind, and the character and constitution of a society indicates whether or not it is founded upon the Divine Law.

                                    1. Madhhab does not afford us any objective. criterion by which we could determine whether or not our actions are producing the desired results.

                                    In a social order governed by din, the development of a collective and harmonious life correctly indicates whether or not the people are pursuing the right course.

                                    1. Madhhab is hostile to scientific investigation and is an adversary of reason, so that it could flourish unhampered with the aid of a blind faith.

                                    Din helps in the development of human reason and knowledge, allows full freedom to accept or reject on the basis of reason and arguments, and encourages investigation and discovery of all the natural phenomena to illumine the path of human life and its advancement in the light of the Permanent Values.

                                    1. Madhhab follows the susceptibilities and prejudices of men and pampers them.

                                    Din seeks to lead men to a path of life that is in harmony with the realities of life.

                                    1. In every age, therefore, madhhab sets up new idols and mumbo-jumbos in order to keep the people's attention away from the real problems of life.

                                    But din is rational and radical it breaks all idols, old and new, and is never variable in its principles.

                                    1. Madhhab induces a perpetual sense of fear in the minds of men and seeks to frighten them into conformity;

                                    While din treats fear as a form of polytheism and seeks to make men courageous, daring and self-reliant.

                                    1. Madhhab prompts men to bow before every seat of authority and prestige, religious as well as temporal.

                                    Din encourages man to walk about with his head erect, and attain self-confidence.

                                    1. Madhhab induces man to flee from struggle of life.

                                    But din calls upon him to face the realities of life squarely, whatever the hazards.

                                    1. Madhhab treats the world of matter with contempt and calls upon man to renounce it. It promises paradise only in the Hereafter as a reward for the renunciation of the material world.

                                    Din, on the other hand, enjoins the conquest of matter and leads man to immeasurable heights of attainment. It exhorts him to seek well-being and happiness in this world as well as felicity in the life Hereafter.

                                    1. Madhhab encourages belief in fatalism, and this tends to dissuade man from active life and self-development.

                                    Din gives man power to challenge fate, and provides energy for a life of activity and self-development.

                                    1. Madhhab seeks to comfort the weak, the helpless and the oppressed with the belief that the affairs of this world are governed by the Will of God and that its acceptance and resignation helps to endear them to God. This sort of teaching naturally tends to morbidity, and emboldens their religious leaders who profess to interpret the Will of God, so that they indulge in their misdeeds with perfect impunity and persuade the adherents to a complete and quiet submission.

                                    Din, on the other hand, raises the banner of revolt against all forms of tyranny and exploitation. It calls upon the weak and the oppressed to follow the Divine Laws and thereby seek to establish a social order in which all tyrants and oppressors will be forced to accept the dictates of right and justice. In this social order, there is no place for dictators, capitalists or priests. They are all enemies of din.

                                    1. Madhhab enjoins religious meditation in the name of worship and thus induces self-deception.

                                    Din exhorts men to assert themselves and struggle perpetually for the establishment of the Divine Social Order, and its betterment when attained. Worship in din really means obedience to the Laws of God.

                                    1. Madhhab frowns and sneers at all things of art and beauty.

                                    Din defies those who forbid the enjoyment of the good and beautiful things of life which God has created for the enjoyment of man.

                                    1. Madhhab denounces everything new and declares all innovation as sin.

                                    Din holds that the needs and demands of human life keep changing with the change in the conditions of life; change and innovation are, therefore, demanded by life itself. Only the Divine Laws are immutable.

                                    It should now be easy for us to see the fundamental difference between din and madhhab. Islam means saying "Yes" to life; while the response of religion is "No"!

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                                      +salaam brother al-amiyr

                                      Thank you and you are also a great thinker and I'm learning a lot from you. We do our best to "Salat".

                                      +salaam
                                      muslims

                                      Dear brother, muslims.

                                      May peace be upon you.

                                      I would like to kindly ask you, from a Quranic perspective, what do you believe the word 'salat' to mean?

                                      You don't have to explain in details, just put your response in a simple sentence.

                                      Peace to you )

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                                        Dear brother, muslims.

                                        May peace be upon you.

                                        I would like to kindly ask you, from a Quranic perspective, what do you believe the word 'salat' to mean?

                                        You don't have to explain in details, just put your response in a simple sentence.

                                        Peace to you )

                                        Dear brother, Scribbler.

                                        This is salat.

                                        Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing (<a href="http//quran.com/29/45">2945</a&gt

                                        May peace be upon you. pr

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                                          Dear brother, Scribbler.

                                          This is salat.

                                          May peace be upon you. pr

                                          Peace be with you, brother.

                                          Thank you for your kind reply.

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