Wahi Ghair Matloo ?
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Quote from Mazhar on October 02, 2013, 023452 pm
Indeed, "Muhammad(un)" and "rosulu" in that verse is a nominative.
Nominative is the word who use verb and noun as predicate.The word Rasullulah is a subject-predicate and a noun.The subject is Rasul and Allah is the predicate.
The word Muhammad also in nominitive case
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This is the rule nominative case or isim marfu, the subject must end with dhammah.Btw why the word "Muhammad" have tanwin, there are two possibilities
- The word "Muhammad" is in nominate case like in that verse above.
- The word "Muhammad" is a common noun-irregular ( /isim nakirat).
As we know the isim nakirat, the word must end with three kind of tanwins, and it depend on the surrounding sentence.
Example of isim nakirat a house =
If you really read brother mmkhan's thread, then maybe you didn't wrote a post like this )
It is good that one attempts to parse the sentences that might help avoid jumping to assumptive perceptions.
However, you have skipped trying to translate the sentence while still insisting that the Subject of sentence is "indefinite" merely because it has Tanwin which is generally a sign of indefiniteness for common nouns. What is not realized is that "Muhammad" is not a common noun. It is a Passive Participle derived from imperfect verb.
Wishing that you further study the sentence I reproduce here little information about sentences.
Synopsis about sentence in English Grammar
Before we learn about the Arabic sentence in the text of Grand Qur'aan let us refresh our memory by glancing following synopsis about sentences in English grammar. It will help and facilitate us to quickly learn Arabic grammar.A sentence is a grammatical unit consisting of one or more words that are grammatically linked. A sentence can include words grouped meaningfully to express a statement, question, exclamation, request, command or a suggestion.
In simple terms, a sentence is a set of words that contain
a subject what the sentence is about the topic of the sentence. Therefore, the subject of a sentence can be almost anything.
a predicate what is said about the subject.
It is thus evident that a sentence expresses a complete thought.
Note that the predicate always contains a verb. Sometimes, in fact, the predicate is only a verb So we can say that a sentence must contain at least a subject and a verb.Arabic Definition of sentence
The sentence is defined as a saying comprised of two words with ascription to one another. The sentence is either comprised of two nouns or a verb and a noun. What makes it a sentence is Isnad (ُ ascription, meaning that the words have meaningful relationship between them. The sentence may be comprised of phrases and clauses in an arrangement that conveys a particular meaning.
In English sentences, the subject usually precedes the verb. In Arabic, there are two types of sentences in regard to subject and verb ordering
Nominal Sentence It is a sentences in which the subject precedes the verb. In simple terms; it is a sentence that begins with a Noun. The subject can be a noun, a pronoun, a demonstrative pronoun, or a relative clause. Thus there are more than one possibility for nominal sentences in the presence of an object, an adverb, a prepositional phrase, etc.
Verbal Sentence It is a sentence that starts with the verb and the subject follows. The subject can be a noun, a pronoun, a demonstrative, or a relative clause. The defining property of a verbal sentence is that the verb precedes the subject. There are more than one possibility for verbal sentences in the presence of an object, an adverb, a prepositional phrase, etc. If the first word is neither of these two, in other words it?s a particle, then we simply ignore it and consider the first non-particle word to determine type of sentence.Usage of Each Type of Sentences
Unlike English, where the change in the intonation of the speaker is probably the only way to emphasize or stress different elements of the sentence; emphasis of different elements can be achieved in Arabic by alternating between the two types of sentences.
Nominal sentences are used when the SUBJECT is the most important element in the sentence and which the speaker seeks to emphasize. Verbal sentences are in fact the normal tone; they are used when the speaker is not stressing anything in particular, or also when the speaker seeks to stress the verb or the ACTION.
Nominal sentence has two parts the Subject; and the Predicate
- Subject of a nominal sentence - topic;
- Predicate of a nominal sentence - comment.
Subject of a nominal sentence - topic
Peculiar features of Subject
Subject may be a single noun; demonstrative pronoun; a pronoun; a relative clause; or it may be a phrase other than prepositional phrase. But it cannot be a complete sentence. However, if the topic of a sentence is a phrase it may itself contain embedded sentence.The topic of a sentence cannot be any of the following two elements;
(a) Prepositional phrase;
(b) Adverbial phrase
When any of above two entities appear in the beginning; location of subject of a sentence, they in fact relate to the predicate/comment and the order of the sentence has been inverted.Subject is usually definite. It can be indefinite in certain situations-we will discuss it next.
Subject is always nominative.Its parsing
? ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ?? ??
The Subject of the Nominal sentence must be Definite or a Specified one.The third person singular masculine pronoun in ?? in the next nominal sentence refers back to .
It is a possessive phrase and grammatically and semantically a unit. It means "The Messenger of Allah the Exalted".
Subject and the Predicate means "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah the Exalted".
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Peace Mazhar,
Thank you for the info.
Could you please do the same for this arabic nominal sentence define the subject, object..
Translation The voice of the singer is beautiful
Can the verse below have the same construction, as
Quote from Mazhar on October 02, 2013, 023452 pm
It is good that one attempts to parse the sentences that might help avoid jumping to assumptive perceptions.
However, you have skipped trying to translate the sentence while still insisting that the Subject of sentence is "indefinite" merely because it has Tanwin which is generally a sign of indefiniteness for common nouns. What is not realized is that "Muhammad" is not a common noun. It is a Passive Participle derived from imperfect verb.
Wishing that you further study the sentence I reproduce here little information about sentences.
Synopsis about sentence in English Grammar
Before we learn about the Arabic sentence in the text of Grand Qur'aan let us refresh our memory by glancing following synopsis about sentences in English grammar. It will help and facilitate us to quickly learn Arabic grammar.A sentence is a grammatical unit consisting of one or more words that are grammatically linked. A sentence can include words grouped meaningfully to express a statement, question, exclamation, request, command or a suggestion.
In simple terms, a sentence is a set of words that contain
a subject what the sentence is about the topic of the sentence. Therefore, the subject of a sentence can be almost anything.
a predicate what is said about the subject.
It is thus evident that a sentence expresses a complete thought.
Note that the predicate always contains a verb. Sometimes, in fact, the predicate is only a verb So we can say that a sentence must contain at least a subject and a verb.Arabic Definition of sentence
The sentence is defined as a saying comprised of two words with ascription to one another. The sentence is either comprised of two nouns or a verb and a noun. What makes it a sentence is Isnad (ُ ascription, meaning that the words have meaningful relationship between them. The sentence may be comprised of phrases and clauses in an arrangement that conveys a particular meaning.
In English sentences, the subject usually precedes the verb. In Arabic, there are two types of sentences in regard to subject and verb ordering
Nominal Sentence It is a sentences in which the subject precedes the verb. In simple terms; it is a sentence that begins with a Noun. The subject can be a noun, a pronoun, a demonstrative pronoun, or a relative clause. Thus there are more than one possibility for nominal sentences in the presence of an object, an adverb, a prepositional phrase, etc.
Verbal Sentence It is a sentence that starts with the verb and the subject follows. The subject can be a noun, a pronoun, a demonstrative, or a relative clause. The defining property of a verbal sentence is that the verb precedes the subject. There are more than one possibility for verbal sentences in the presence of an object, an adverb, a prepositional phrase, etc. If the first word is neither of these two, in other words it?s a particle, then we simply ignore it and consider the first non-particle word to determine type of sentence.Usage of Each Type of Sentences
Unlike English, where the change in the intonation of the speaker is probably the only way to emphasize or stress different elements of the sentence; emphasis of different elements can be achieved in Arabic by alternating between the two types of sentences.
Nominal sentences are used when the SUBJECT is the most important element in the sentence and which the speaker seeks to emphasize. Verbal sentences are in fact the normal tone; they are used when the speaker is not stressing anything in particular, or also when the speaker seeks to stress the verb or the ACTION.
Nominal sentence has two parts the Subject; and the Predicate
- Subject of a nominal sentence - topic;
- Predicate of a nominal sentence - comment.
Subject of a nominal sentence - topic
Peculiar features of Subject
Subject may be a single noun; demonstrative pronoun; a pronoun; a relative clause; or it may be a phrase other than prepositional phrase. But it cannot be a complete sentence. However, if the topic of a sentence is a phrase it may itself contain embedded sentence.The topic of a sentence cannot be any of the following two elements;
(a) Prepositional phrase;
(b) Adverbial phrase
When any of above two entities appear in the beginning; location of subject of a sentence, they in fact relate to the predicate/comment and the order of the sentence has been inverted.Subject is usually definite. It can be indefinite in certain situations-we will discuss it next.
Subject is always nominative.Its parsing
? ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ?? ??
The Subject of the Nominal sentence must be Definite or a Specified one.The third person singular masculine pronoun in ?? in the next nominal sentence refers back to .
It is a possessive phrase and grammatically and semantically a unit. It means "The Messenger of Allah the Exalted".
Subject and the Predicate means "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah the Exalted".
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Peace Mazhar,
Thank you for the info.
Could you please do the same for this arabic nominal sentence define the subject, object..
Translation The voice of the singer is beautiful
Can the verse below have the same construction, as
Salamun alaika,
This sentence in isolation depicts to me a scene of conversation of two persons, a speaker and the listener, both of whom have just listened a singer. The singer is known to both as evident by definite article.
Why has he inverted the sentence? It shows me he uttered the word in an exclamatory way but it was not in response to some comment of the listener in which case it was a complete sentence in itself with subject elided.
But this word being Adjective resembling participle which could have prompted the listener to look back or around to see some beautiful figured object there; the speaker clarifiedCan the verse below have the same construction, as
No; If we substitute the Subject as predicate the meanings will become different. It will denote "The Messenger of Allah the Exalted is he who is a praised/revered one".
Academically I do not think that it will be considered an independent clause since "The Messenger" will not be known to the listener/audience. -
Salaam everyone,
I wish I had even a fraction of the Arabic knowledge that many of you here do. I just want to point out a single verse which I want clarified, if "Al Kitab" really is the same as "Al Quran"
1037 This Qur?an could not have been produced without God; it is to authenticate what is between his hands, and to give details of the Book in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. (FM translation)
If they were the same, I don't think this statement would be worded this way (gives details of the book). Other verses were pointed out by someone earlier in this thread which distinguish "Al Kitab" from Al Tawrah, Al Hikma, and Al Injeel, as well.
Of course, I believe Al Quran is the Guidance, providing details of Al Kitab. There is a reason for me seeking this, primarily because there is a verse which authorizes the messenger to teach "Al Kitab," and those who follow only Quran have stated that only Allah is the Teacher of the Quran. If Al Quran and Al Kitab are the same, then there is a contradiction here.
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Salaam everyone,
I wish I had even a fraction of the Arabic knowledge that many of you here do. I just want to point out a single verse which I want clarified, if "Al Kitab" really is the same as "Al Quran"
1037 This Quran could not have been produced without God; it is to authenticate what is between his hands, and to give details of the Book in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. (FM translation)
If they were the same, I don't think this statement would be worded this way (gives details of the book). Other verses were pointed out by someone earlier in this thread which distinguish "Al Kitab" from Al Tawrah, Al Hikma, and Al Injeel, as well.
Of course, I believe Al Quran is the Guidance, providing details of Al Kitab. There is a reason for me seeking this, primarily because there is a verse which authorizes the messenger to teach "Al Kitab," and those who follow only Quran have stated that only Allah is the Teacher of the Quran. If Al Quran and Al Kitab are the same, then there is a contradiction here.
Please see post 18 and given link to see the meanings of "tafsil" to resolve the ambiguity caused by words "providing details of Al-kitab".
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Salaam everyone,
I wish I had even a fraction of the Arabic knowledge that many of you here do. I just want to point out a single verse which I want clarified, if "Al Kitab" really is the same as "Al Quran"
1037 This Qur?an could not have been produced without God; it is to authenticate what is between his hands, and to give details of the Book in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. (FM translation)
If they were the same, I don't think this statement would be worded this way (gives details of the book). Other verses were pointed out by someone earlier in this thread which distinguish "Al Kitab" from Al Tawrah, Al Hikma, and Al Injeel, as well.
Of course, I believe Al Quran is the Guidance, providing details of Al Kitab. There is a reason for me seeking this, primarily because there is a verse which authorizes the messenger to teach "Al Kitab," and those who follow only Quran have stated that only Allah is the Teacher of the Quran. If Al Quran and Al Kitab are the same, then there is a contradiction here.
+salaam
A sure external contradiction! Another proof that the Qur'aan and the Book (al-kitaab) are two different books although working together. The Qur'aan is needed to explain the Book (al-kitaab). In the absence of al-kitaab only a little of the knowledge can be revealed with certainty as it is and has been through the centuries.
The question now arises,
" What is and where is the Book (al-kitaab) now?"Studying the Qur'aan will reveal these answers as well.
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However, you have skipped trying to translate the sentence while still insisting that the Subject of sentence is "indefinite" merely because it has Tanwin which is generally a sign of indefiniteness for common nouns. What is not realized is that "Muhammad" is not a common noun. It is a Passive Participle derived from imperfect verb.
Wishing that you further study the sentence I reproduce here little information about sentences.
Synopsis about sentence in English Grammar
Before we learn about the Arabic sentence in the text of Grand Qur'aan let us refresh our memory by glancing following synopsis about sentences in English grammar. It will help and facilitate us to quickly learn Arabic grammar.A sentence is a grammatical unit consisting of one or more words that are grammatically linked. A sentence can include words grouped meaningfully to express a statement, question, exclamation, request, command or a suggestion.
In simple terms, a sentence is a set of words that contain
a subject what the sentence is about the topic of the sentence. Therefore, the subject of a sentence can be almost anything.
a predicate what is said about the subject.
It is thus evident that a sentence expresses a complete thought.
Note that the predicate always contains a verb. Sometimes, in fact, the predicate is only a verb So we can say that a sentence must contain at least a subject and a verb.Arabic Definition of sentence
The sentence is defined as a saying comprised of two words with ascription to one another. The sentence is either comprised of two nouns or a verb and a noun. What makes it a sentence is Isnad (ُ ascription, meaning that the words have meaningful relationship between them. The sentence may be comprised of phrases and clauses in an arrangement that conveys a particular meaning.
In English sentences, the subject usually precedes the verb. In Arabic, there are two types of sentences in regard to subject and verb ordering
Nominal Sentence It is a sentences in which the subject precedes the verb. In simple terms; it is a sentence that begins with a Noun. The subject can be a noun, a pronoun, a demonstrative pronoun, or a relative clause. Thus there are more than one possibility for nominal sentences in the presence of an object, an adverb, a prepositional phrase, etc.
Verbal Sentence It is a sentence that starts with the verb and the subject follows. The subject can be a noun, a pronoun, a demonstrative, or a relative clause. The defining property of a verbal sentence is that the verb precedes the subject. There are more than one possibility for verbal sentences in the presence of an object, an adverb, a prepositional phrase, etc. If the first word is neither of these two, in other words it?s a particle, then we simply ignore it and consider the first non-particle word to determine type of sentence.Usage of Each Type of Sentences
Unlike English, where the change in the intonation of the speaker is probably the only way to emphasize or stress different elements of the sentence; emphasis of different elements can be achieved in Arabic by alternating between the two types of sentences.
Nominal sentences are used when the SUBJECT is the most important element in the sentence and which the speaker seeks to emphasize. Verbal sentences are in fact the normal tone; they are used when the speaker is not stressing anything in particular, or also when the speaker seeks to stress the verb or the ACTION.
Nominal sentence has two parts the Subject; and the Predicate
- Subject of a nominal sentence - topic;
- Predicate of a nominal sentence - comment.
Subject of a nominal sentence - topic
Peculiar features of Subject
Subject may be a single noun; demonstrative pronoun; a pronoun; a relative clause; or it may be a phrase other than prepositional phrase. But it cannot be a complete sentence. However, if the topic of a sentence is a phrase it may itself contain embedded sentence.The topic of a sentence cannot be any of the following two elements;
(a) Prepositional phrase;
(b) Adverbial phrase
When any of above two entities appear in the beginning; location of subject of a sentence, they in fact relate to the predicate/comment and the order of the sentence has been inverted.Subject is usually definite. It can be indefinite in certain situations-we will discuss it next.
Subject is always nominative.Its parsing
? ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ?? ??
The Subject of the Nominal sentence must be Definite or a Specified one.The third person singular masculine pronoun in ?? in the next nominal sentence refers back to .
It is a possessive phrase and grammatically and semantically a unit. It means "The Messenger of Allah the Exalted".
Subject and the Predicate means "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah the Exalted".
Thanks brother Mazhar for the knowledge.
So this is clear right now if the subject is nominal then the predicate is definitife, this is the main reason for why there is a tanwin in Muhammad.
I'm also agree if the word Muhammad is actually a participle one.The conclusion is to learning a language we must also understand the dialect used by native speaker, not only the grammar.
The example is the word qumtum in verse 56, even this word literally a perfect verb, but the usage in 56 is not for a past thing. -
Salam brother
As far as I can recall "kum" in kumtum in ayat 56 is an imperativeSalamun alaikum,
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Verb Perfect; Second Person; plural; masculine; Subject Pronoun, in nominative state; Verbal Noun. (1)506=1
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If and whenever you people stand on the call of the time appointed towards joining the As-sa'laat Congregational Protocol of Servitude and allegianceTranslation after grammatical parsing of sentences 506
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Thanks brother Mazhar
I got confused and could not see that KUM is an imperative when used as it but when TUM is attached then it is past perfect conjugated for ANTUM. Stand corrected.Salam
Salamun alaika,
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