She's Not Naked !!!
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Man, when no western women live in the West (that is economically not controlled by european people) they act the same or even worse than european women.
And perhaps is ok arab women become feminists, because this is going to put down arab racism, supremacism, etc.
Even evil things happen because God allow them for some reason.
Arab men have a lot of fear of woman discovering they can do a lot of things like men ("oh, don't drive because is bad for your health" rotfl.
A lot of people when say that hate something western, the West, etc. is also hating european people. Next elections in France far right of Marine Le Pen (fascist woman) is going to win socialists and conservatives (controlled both by financial power). Europe have also Russia and Mr. Putin... it isn't western but is european. We are not going to tolerate racism against europeans in our Homeland.
In Europe we have no fear of strong woman, only we don't like misandry and women abusing men. But you cannot continue telling fairy tales to women and pretend they believe you.
God is with the righteous, the humble, who looks for the Justice, the Truth and the Order. No matter the race of he/she lives in the West or in the East.
One God for everybody.
lol I just want to add
People act as if Europe is a united region. The truth is that Europeans hate each other more than anything. The Swedes here want to leave the EU(European union), because they don't want to associate themselves with other Europeans and because they find that the EU is somehow "destroying" their country. Eastern-Europe hate Western-Europe more than anything. Europe is becoming more miserable(due to conservatist-nationalists christians), it's a divided region. It bothers me when people think Europe is somehow united, a common thing. Europe has always destroyed itself.. Like for example during WW-1 were millions died in Europe, and then you had the same thing during WW2.
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By saying this racist word, so this is how yu implemented your Islam
Are you blind? confused
Fineness and simplicity.. evidencing how they value nature and life, to the extent of every detail. All these needs lots of focus and self discipline. Mastering the heart and self control just a matter of personal preferences over many traditions and cultures, everyone has their own preferences. laugh
O mankind, indeed We have created you
from male and female
and made you peoples
and tribes
that you may know one another
Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
is the most righteous of you <- being grateful with their life, "how they value nature and life"
Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted
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lol I just want to add
People act as if Europe is a united region. The truth is that Europeans hate each other more than anything. The Swedes here want to leave the EU(European union), because they don't want to associate themselves with other Europeans and because they find that the EU is somehow "destroying" their country. Eastern-Europe hate Western-Europe more than anything. Europe is becoming more miserable(due to conservatist-nationalists christians), it's a divided region. It bothers me when people think Europe is somehow united, a common thing. Europe has always destroyed itself.. Like for example during WW-1 were millions died in Europe, and then you had the same thing during WW2.
I hate also European Union, but regarding hate between europeans I think that it's true like in another continents (ex. black africans hate each other, turks and kurds, civil war in Syria, etc.).
You know that in Europe you're free to talk about religions, you can be a foreign salafist, you can be conservative christian, you can be practically all... but you cannot talk with real freedom about Adolf Hitler and WW2. There is an official version and if you say something against it, you'll go to jail.
Europe lost WW2 and was invaded and occupied (and still remain in this situation) by Middle Eastern bankers from U.S.A. and marxist U.S.S.R. Nowadays, they are forcing massive inmigration in order to destroy our societies and, as everybody knows that the best allies of Wall Street are Saudia Arabia, Qatar, etc.
Conservative christians are puppets of Wall Street, no matter their speeches. Europe is the land of european peoples and I'm talking about race and not about religion... a bosniak muslim is as european as a croatian catholic and both fighted with the SS in WW2.
We don't hate another people but everybody have their homeland. Arabs have their homeland and, talking about races the christian arabs are as arabs as the muslim ones.
Bosniaks, albanians, pomacs (slavics) or european reverted muslim are european.
Coptic egyptian, Syria or Lebanon christians are arabs.
Chinese confucian, muslim (Hui people) or christian are chinese and fight for Chine. Uigur people are against Chine no because religion but because they are turks and not chinese.I don't want a christian Europe but another different (I cannot talk free) and european muslims will be free the same of european christians. No european people (no matter their religion) could live in Europe in a little number but never as a massive inmigration like today happens.
Hitler commited the mistake of anti-slavic and anti-russian geopolitics, but this time European Homeland will be one from Portugal and Ireland to Vladivostok, with a no religious but racialist axis Paris-Berlin-Moscow. As you know all the tale abut french resistence is a lie, and french were supporters of Adolf.
We want to control our economy and stop the usury controling our lives. We want to destroy counterculture and live in peace with asians, turks, iranians (our cousins in Middle East), arabs, blacks or mixed people of America. But is disgusting to be at your homeland and see people of another races hating you (no matter muslims, christians or voodoo)... imagine Saudi Arabia with massive inmigration of european, chinese, blacks of all religions and hating arab people... do you think it's logic?
Of course american wars in Irak and Afganistan have only two pourposes consolidate Israel power in Middle East (now Al Qaeda is helping in it) and attacks Russia in Central Asia. Also, the Federal Reserve of U.S.A. is noway controlled by americans.
Peace and Mercy of God to everybody, no matter sex or race, but the World have an Order.
Allah know best
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I wrote like that because "O' Prophet", "O' Messenger" are generally accepted and assumed as "O' Mohammed".
one hand by your writings you show that you have some original thoughts about quran. here you mention / follow, also assume, what is 'generally accepted' by your mullahs, salafist, deobandists, muslims sects, etc.,
in my view, you are not following quran alone, you have your impacts of hadiths and the people following hadiths around you. the very reason you become haste very often and getting emotion. to follow quran basically we need is patience. i pray you seek patience from your Lord. remember my initial welcome posts, i do not have anything against you or any of you.
This is just one example of arts of brainwashing or tactics used by clergymen to convince their followers or potential followers of their cults to believe in their teachings.
...The clergymen tend to use something like "if you sincerely love God, you would follow bla bla and bla rules"you cannot brainwash to quran, to get out of quran you need brainwashed. so whenever you read quran ask protection from your Lord from satan. i am here only to know others view on quran only and share mine. i myself is only a follower of Allah alone, quran alone.
peace
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Salaam DrGM
RED Assumptive = create statement but has no base/reference
Like Yuliana said this verse absolutely address the subject (Muhammad's wifes).Example "Dr GM please came to the examine room."
The subject is Dr GM and address only to DrGM of course no one else.
peace Earthdom,
your thought says nabi means only muhammad. for me it means all nabi's and messengers from Adam..
and referring nabi's wives and muhammad's wives are not the same to me.
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peace Earthdom,
your thought says nabi means only muhammad. for me it means all nabi's and messengers from Adam..
and referring nabi's wives and muhammad's wives are not the same to me.
Peace DrGM
Indeed Quran has some speculative verses.
Muhammad's name the main person in the Islam, only written 4 times in the Quran.QUran verses mostly use Arabic pronoun (hi,hu,him) and subject's title ( ex O Phrophet).
So it's little bit guessing for knowing like to who God talking to? who said this sentence ? If we translating Quran , we will usually meet that problem. -
one hand by your writings you show that you have some original thoughts about quran. here you mention / follow, also assume, what is 'generally accepted' by your mullahs, salafist, deobandists, muslims sects, etc.,
Ohhhhh okayyyy mannnnnn sorrrrryyyy. I should have written PROPHET instead of Mohammed because there are some MAD dudes who will question "why do you assume blablabla?". I did not say I believed that the Prophet must be Mohammed but if there are many Muslims, including Quranists replace the word Prophet with Mohammed, why can't I? Why only me that you questioned? Why not your fellow buddies who are following "Quran alone" that do the same?
in my view, you are not following quran alone,
Yes, I am agnostic. So what?
you have your impacts of hadiths and the people following hadiths around you. the very reason you become haste very often and getting emotion.
LOL! Hadiths? Sorry man but it is your LORD DR FAZL that have impacts of hadiths and also Salafism. Become haste very often? That's your false assumption. Why do I need ro repeat reading people's posts 1000 times to understand what people say? Your LORD DR FAZL and his Secretary jhonsonmustafa clearly said women should stay at home only.
to follow quran basically we need is patience.
Patience doesn't mean people have to shut up of other people's ridiculousness.
i pray you seek patience from your Lord. remember my initial welcome posts, i do not have anything against you or any of you.
drfazl and jhonsonmustafa are clearly against women and manipulate Quran and use the manipulations as tools to confine women at homes. Salafinazis are dangerous.
you cannot brainwash to quran, to get out of quran you need brainwashed.
Seems like you did not understand what I wrote about brainwashing.
so whenever you read quran ask protection from your Lord from satan.
I seek refuge with my Lord, God from satans and sexist people.
i am here only to know others view on quran only and share mine. i myself is only a follower of Allah alone, quran alone.
peace
Peace.
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Are you blind? confused
O mankind, indeed We have created you
from male and female
and made you peoples
and tribes
that you may know one another
Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah
is the most righteous of you <- being grateful with their life, "how they value nature and life"
Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted
(49.13)So many hujah caming from you to protect your argument )
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Make a proper argument if you wish to.. but don't misread people's statement and claims something stupid. nope
Look how many times you edited your post before being read by others ;D
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By becoming agnostic.. I think you are now becoming less rational, and more arrogant. Save yourself for a little dignity.
The problem of difference in tafseer within Quranist is lack of study and lack of wisdom and clear thinking.
Ok actually I get bored talking about homosexuality in this forum, but because it seems some members in here didn't study the Quran properly,
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The problem of difference in tafseer within Quranist is lack of study and lack of wisdom and clear thinking.
Yes it is true
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No it is not.. wisdom can even come from those who are stupid and retarded (remember how God make an example from a fly).
It is not about them or what they said.. it is about how you view their perspective, and their conditions.
Wisdom can come from anything...
I think your heart have some diseases.. ie. the feeling of arrogant and supremacy over others.
and that's what makes you blind... egocentric.
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