I am God / Allah
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So am I, fully aware of how you are making an argument quarrelling . .
Look, I don't live on tress and I don't understand how you make an argument
However and from my world , it is not an argument . .
and if you are lazy to read, then . . you have successfully proven yourself being an idiot who only argues, without first understanding the issue of this thread . .
and who knows . . maybe you can join those who are rejecting the "law of cause and effect" and always able to learn directly from God
But I did not argue - nor claimed to argue. I asked you questions . . . end of.
Else as I have asked you to to prove this
yet claiming you are making an argument
I guess you cannot and you made a false accusation.
Sweet heart - it appears no one knows how you make an argument. Let me ask you . . . are you lonely? Do you just want to quarrel?
I mean - you started this . . . not me!
Look! I even posted a comments in support of you!
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I did this to her?
How should I know . . I am talking about Iblees, and yet she said the statement is directly referring to her . .
She should answer . . or maybe you, on her behalf . rotfl
See - you do it even here!
Ha ha ha . . . it ain't really funny is it?
Sorry, but your attitude is really pathetic. I asked you few questions and you went berserk. Report you to Admin - I think.
Deep down - we all know what you are hiding . . .
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You cannot read the Quran and Arabic.
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Your English is poor.
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You build these theories that are based on false readings.
Then, when you post them up and people challenge you - you are not able to answer. Then, you just get abusive.
You were simply asked - how are you translating and interpreting Ahad and Samad! That is all! What followed is torrent of abuse. . .
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But I did not argue - nor claimed to argue. I asked you questions . . . end of.
Look . . are you going to repeat this irrelevant discussion for 200 pages?
Because it is boring . . and since you are lazy to read , I can't see why should I waste another 200-300 pages without making a single point . .
This is my main point, the usul . . the law of cause and effect and its rational . . .
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
If you think like the way I think . .
you will see that the same human being teach us how to use a pen . .
you will see that the same human being bring us food . .
you will see that the same human being answer our prayer. .
you will see that the same human being give birth to us . .
and, you will see that the same human being name Muhammad delivered the Quran . . it is quite simple
and, you will see that Allah is everywhere, and it is sad to see those who cannot see Allah . .
Mainly, because Allah does not exist in themselves . . not yet, or not forever.
But when they realize that "everything" is Allah . .
they will not do corruption and be just to all peoples, regardless of religion, race etc
they will be a servant to humanity and all living creatures etc . . becoming the servant to everything, One !
It is so since being a servant of Allah does not mean becoming Allah alone
There is no Allah alone because Allah is "everything" !
How can someone be Allah Alone when Allah is "ONE" ? (everything)
Therefore being a servant of Allah means we execute Allah's promise to human beings . . just like the angels are doing
It means we take God's part and answer to peoples' prayer
It means we maintain the Sunnatullah in the society
It means we become the Khalif, taking care of every peoples
This is the true servant of Allah . . who live to serve "everything" (One), and becoming God (ie. creating God in ourselves)
It is the duty of a true servant of Allah to answer his prayer and become God . . .
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From a God who thinks like a man
to a man who thinks like God!
Let say this man is very poor and praying to Allah for food . . .
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or this girl . . .
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and also this boy . . he is asking the Creator to help him . . desperately
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Who will answer their prayers?
Who will give them food?
Allah?
How?
Show me . . .
What is your counter argument ?
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Look . . are you going to repeat this irrelevant discussion for 200 pages?
Because it is boring . . and since you are lazy to read , I can't see why should I waste another 200-300 hundred pages without making a single point . .
This is my main point, the usul . . the law of cause and effect and its rational . . .
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
So you made a baseless accusation - when challenged - you have no proof/answer?
Other than bad attitude?
Just above . . . it plain for everyone to see - against the user "Little Mannie" - you made a similar argument - and then accused her of lying and even called her one!
When it is your turn . . . well!
So you go around accusing others of lying . . . yet commit the same crime.
And you are trying to portray that you are the amazingly clever one!
Why?
It is divert away from the fact
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You do not know Arabic.
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You are not educated much
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Your English is poor.
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You cannot answer simple questions.
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You quarrel and are rude and vulgar.
This is WHY you cannot even answer what you mother tongue is! I mean why hide you background?
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Look . . are you going to repeat this irrelevant discussion for 200 pages?
Because it is boring . . and since you are lazy to read , I can't see why should I waste another 200-300 pages without making a single point . .
This is my main point, the usul . . the law of cause and effect and its rational . . .
(obviously I am not declaring myself as God . . only fools believe that)
What is your counter argument ?
What is your counter argument ?
Why should I have a "counter-argument"? And for what?
I asked you some questions . . . why don't you either answer or quit being rude!
That is all.
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When people claim this - most likely there is nothing obvious about other person's illogicality. If it is that obvious then you would have no problems spelling it out.
Don't worry - I am no friend of "Muslims" - he has claimed similar towards me. People do this in order to avoid answering something.
This is how it starts, and it doesn't sound like a question at all . . as usual, liar . .
and you know well what you are, no dignity . .
and that's how you like people to treat you . . proven.
That is all.
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you will see that the same human being teach us how to use a pen . .
you will see that the same human being bring us food . .
you will see that the same human being answer our prayer. .
you will see that the same human being give birth to us . .
and, you will see that the same human being name Muhammad delivered the Quran . . it is quite simple
and, you will see that Allah is everywhere, and it is sad to see those who cannot see Allah . .
Allah is not seen as such. That is - Allah the separate and unique entity.
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah - Quran 22
Mainly, because Allah does not exist in themselves . . not yet, or not forever.
One can have love of Allah - but not have Allah in them - physically.
Say, , "If you should love Allah , then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
But when they realize that "everything" is Allah . .
they will not do corruption and be just to all peoples, regardless of religion, race etc
It is true that Allah is everything - I believe that too. Sadly, everyone doesn't. There are some that do not believe in him at all.
they will be a servant to humanity and all living creatures etc . . becoming the servant to everything, One !
It is so since being a servant of Allah does not mean becoming Allah alone
I did not understand this.
There is no Allah alone because Allah is "everything" !
How can someone be Allah Alone when Allah is "ONE" ? (everything)
Now - Allah being One and Everything is not the same thing. How did you get to this?
Therefore being a servant of Allah means we execute Allah's promise to human beings . . just like the angels are doing
It means we take God's part and answer to peoples' prayer
It means we maintain the Sunnatullah in the society
It means we become the Khalif, taking care of every peoples
I hear what you are saying . . . and that is right and true. We are required to look after and love each other. After all - we are but one race.
This is the true servant of Allah . . who live to serve "everything" (One), and becoming God (ie. creating God in ourselves)
I do not believe this. We do not become "God" - that is Shirk. We can take the qualities . . . but I think your English is poor - maybe you need to rephrase this.
It is the duty of a true servant of Allah to answer his prayer and become God . . .
We are creation of Allah - we cannot be "God".
Who will give them food?
Allah?
How?
Show me . . .
Usually by causing us to give them food.
Now - please do not needlessly row with me. I have gone through it all - agree with you some parts and have highlighted where I disagree.
Let us see - can you we continue without silly games and abuse?
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This is how it starts, and it doesn't sound like a question at all . . as usual, liar . .
and you know well what you are, no dignity . .
and that's how you like people to treat you . . proven.
Ha ha ha . . . this was written in support of you. I was merely pointing out to the person that she has to "prove" that you have committed fallacies and not just accuse you.
brickwall
You really are not very clever are.
Is that why you hide your background?
Is that why you quarrel so much?
Why do you bother posting your pet theories and then cannot handle questioning?
Why?
And we are NOT friends - I pointed this out so she knows I am not supporting you merely out of knowing you. As is often the case on forums.
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This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
or maybe 0 is 1 . . 1 + 0 = 1 = God)
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior (334) = God ?
However all these can be useful to give us some clue on our purpose of life and not for actual determination
What really matter Allah is everything . . equally, Allah Alone should mean to serve everything . .
"everything" is "Allah Alone"
and what Allah want from us ?
Our happiness . . . living together in peace and harmony
These are the proof . . .
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(no one could reach all these planets, and therefore . . Allah makes all these planets just to make us happy looking at the stars)
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Allah like beauties, sounds and musics, arts etc . . . and Allah make all these things just to make us happy . . .
Allah serve us but do we serve Allah the way Allah serve all living creatures (regardless of religions, etc)?
Do we fulfil our promise and answer peoples' prayers?
human beings are corruptor . . .
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This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
Please prove this from the Quran.
We do not and cannot become God.
"Created man from a clinging substance."
What is a God?
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(in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
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(in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity."By the very definition of what a God is - we cannot become that. The only source of guidance we both recognize is Quran - and Quran does not say this.
We are and can be his "representative" but that is not becoming God. Please revise this
or maybe 0 is 1 . . 1 + 0 = 1 = God)
This makes no sense. Where did you get this from?
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior (334) = God ?
Huh?
"Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. And He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers. And he has not made your adopted sons your sons. That is your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the way."
How does this equal to God? Please clarify what you are saying.
What really matter Allah is everything . . equally, Allah Alone should mean to serve everything . .
"everything" is "Allah Alone"
But Allah is NOT us. He is everything that infinite and everlasting. We are not that - so we are nothing and he is everything.
"Everything is Allah"
I agree with that - what I do NOT agree is that we are part of everything. We are not. We are nothing.
Our happiness . . .
How do you know this? Where in the Quran?
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This is how we become God . . by becoming "0" and servant of Allah . .
1 (God) + 0 (human) = 1 (God) = Absolute Obedience = Creating God in ourselves
and what Allah want from us ?
Our happiness . . . living together in peace and harmony
These are the proof . . .
http//data3.whicdn.com/images/50954704/amazing-galaxy-stars-universe-Favim.com-621220_large.jpg
(no one could reach all these planets, and therefore . . Allah makes all these planets just to make us happy looking at the stars)
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Allah like beauties, sounds and musics, arts etc . . . and Allah make all these things just to make us happy . . .
Allah serve us but do we serve Allah the way Allah serve all living creatures (regardless of religions, etc)?
Do we fulfil our promise and answer peoples' prayers?
human beings are corruptor . . .
Furthermore
Your beliefs - as defined above - seem to reflect Pantheism
"Pantheism is the belief that the universe (or nature as the totality of everything) is identical with divinity, or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent God. Pantheists thus do not believe in a distinct personal or anthropomorphic god. Eastern religions are often considered to be pantheistically inclined."
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
http//plato.stanford.edu/entries/pantheism/Now - you appear to be very unwilling to discussions that lead to something about yourself and your background. But you are not the 1st have such thoughts!
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We do not and cannot become God.
Read again, and spell out what is my conclusion of becoming God?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg346140#msg346140
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg346146#msg346146Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. (24.35)
and why do angels prostrate to Adam?
Isn't it supposed to associate Adam with Allah?
Huh?
"Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. And He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers. And he has not made your adopted sons your sons. That is your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the way."
How does this equal to God? Please clarify what you are saying.
Huh? You didn't notice that the statement is in wrong paragraph?
That it belongs to the previous paragraph?
You are the expert right? confused
O Prophet, fear Allah and do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites.
Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.And
follow that which is revealed to you from your Lord.
Indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted.And
rely upon Allah ; and sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. <- paragraph 3
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. <- paragraph 4And
He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers.
And
he has not made your adopted sons your sons.
That is your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the (right) way.
(333-4)But Allah is NOT us. He is everything that infinite and everlasting. We are not that - so we are nothing and he is everything.
"Everything is Allah"
I agree with that - what I do NOT agree is that we are part of everything. We are not. We are nothing.
How do you know this? Where in the Quran?
Read again, I'm not going to repeat for the third time.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg346140#msg346140
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Your beliefs - as defined above - seem to reflect Pantheism
That's how a sectarian defined people . . .
He has plainly clarified the same way of life which He enjoined on Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus.
Perform the prescribed way of life and no sectarianism
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Read again, and spell out what is my conclusion of becoming God?
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. (24.35)
and why do angels prostrate to Adam?
Isn't it supposed to associate Adam with Allah?
No it isn't/wasn't. Adam is creation of Allah.
"O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous -"
" who made for you the earth a bed and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know ."
It was about obedience and the difference between Angels - how they obey. And Satan - how he went astray - it was lesson for Adam and for the rest of mankind.
Read
"And , when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."
"And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful.""
"They said, "Exalted are You; we have no knowledge except what You have taught us. Indeed, it is You who is the Knowing, the Wise.""
"He said, "O Adam, inform them of their names." And when he had informed them of their names, He said, "Did I not tell you that I know the unseen of the heavens and the earth? And I know what you reveal and what you have concealed.""
"And when We said to the angels, "Prostrate before Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers."
Now read this
"And We said, "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers.""
"But Satan caused them to slip out of it and removed them from that in which they had been. And We said, "Go down, , as enemies to one another, and you will have upon the earth a place of settlement and provision for a time.""
"Then Adam received from his Lord words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful."
See what this is about? The it the the difference between Satan and Adam. He digressed and went on to mislead other. Prophet Adam slipped - he became repentant.
And please notice - Angels and not other humans were asked to bow to Adam.
Huh? You didn't notice that the statement is in wrong paragraph?
That it belongs to the previous paragraph?
You are the expert right?
There it is again! Unnecessary attitude from you!
I asked you to clarify and you are plain rude. Why?
Now you have rendered this meaningless - rather than explaining this - you went with the attitude!
Read again, I'm not going to repeat for the third time.
I have read and answered. I take it you are resorting to playing silly games . . .as you cannot answer.
Saying read again does NOT help you out. What you have written earlier does not explain it either - as WHAT you have written before is the thing being questioned. So referring back to that is not helpful.
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That's how a sectarian defined people . . .
He has plainly clarified the same way of life which He enjoined on Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus.
Perform the prescribed way of life and no sectarianism
(42.13)What are you harping about now?
Also - here is the full verse
"He has ordained for you of religion what He enjoined upon Noah and that which We have revealed to you, , and what We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus - to establish the religion and not be divided therein. Difficult for those who associate others with Allah is that to which you invite them. Allah chooses for Himself whom He wills and guides to Himself whoever turns back ."
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So . . . you read and understand on the issue of what does it really mean of becoming God?
No it isn't/wasn't. Adam is creation of Allah.
The facts are they prostrate to other than Allah. . .
and Iblees prostrate only to Allah (Allah Alone? By God? Bigot?)
Angels prostrate to Allah and Adam
and what is Allah commands ? To prostrate to everything and creating balance?
God commands justice
CREATING BALANCE in the society
benefiting humanity <- about religion?
kindness to His creation <- all living creatures, regardless of religions etc
and giving to relatives
(16.90)Do you prostrate or opposing justice based which group you belongs today?
What are you harping about now?
Also - here is the full verse
"He has ordained for you of religion what He enjoined upon Noah and that which We have revealed to you, , and what We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus - to establish the religion and not be divided therein. Difficult for those who associate others with Allah is that to which you invite them. Allah chooses for Himself whom He wills and guides to Himself whoever turns back ."
Islam (peacemaking) is attitude, and attitude does not need religion . . .
It is in every human beings etc . . regardless of religions etc
So as Allah , does not need religion . . .
Only human beings need religions (faulty of generalization, sectarianism, opposing justice, corruptors, idolaters) . .
to make sure humanity is divided so that they can control the masses and make money
and those who obey them . . . are the associators, idolaters, who equate others with Allah
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah (9.31)
Say, "Bring forward your witnesses
who will testify <- including inconsistent hadith
that Allah has prohibited this."And if they testify
DO NOT testify with them
And DO NOT follow the desires
of those who deny Our verses
and those who do not believe in the Hereafter
while they equate with their Lord -
Whether need to believe Allah to be a Muslim?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606111.0From the above premises (4914-17)... I believe, a Muslim... does not necessarily means be the Muslims we know today, and provided always .. they don't believe in identifiable God, ie. idolaters and an upright man.
comparison
Who is Muhammad?
I believe he is the most righteous person ever lived . . . and a True Believer
And indeed, you (Muhammad)
are of a great moral character
(684)But and even if he believe in Allah . . .
. . . recite shahada perfectfully
. . . knows and speaks well in arabic
. . . perform salah
. . . pray in mosque
. . . pray every night to Allah
. . . perform hajj
. . . fasting for his entire life
. . . dzikr.. and never say bad things about people
. . . pay zakat and sadaqah all his property in the cause of Allah
. . . go to jihad and sacrifice himself to Allah
. . . study carefully all the revelations...
. . . and... bla... bla... bla...
. . . you name it, as one of the most righteous person ever lived...He will not be a Muslim if disobey one "simple prohibition" not to eat that on which Allah's name has not been mentioned
And DO NOT eat
of that on which Allah's name has not been mentioned
and that is most surely a transgression
and most surely the Shaitans suggest to their friends
that they should contend with youand if you obey them
you (Muhammad) shall most surely be polytheists <- ie. not a Muslim
(6121)Because Allah says "DO NOT" ! !
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So . . . you read and understand on the issue of what does it really mean of becoming God?
Your version - yes. But I disagree. Man is not God. Now - what you describe we should be doing - that is fine. But saying man is god - or become god - is completely wrong.
Almighty has already given that. Man is simply his vicegerent.
So how do you get to man becoming god from the Quran?
The facts are they prostrate to other than Allah. . .
and Iblees only prostrate to Allah
Angels prostrate to Allah and Adam
Yes. In that instance - direct command of the Almighty. There is no such command anymore towards humans.
and what is Allah commands ? To prostrate to everything and creating balance?
God commands justice
CREATING BALANCE in the society
benefiting humanity <- about religion?
kindness to His creation <- all living creatures, regardless of religions etc
and giving to relatives
(16.90)Do you prostrate or opposing justice based which group you belongs today?
Let us look at what the verse 1690 says
"Indeed, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded."
There is not even a hint of Sajdah here.
Islam is attitude, and attitude does not need religion . . .
Source? Base of saying this?
So as Allah , does not need religion . . .
Of course not - we the humans need it.
It is a pity you have not answered any further. Okay - we will park it there for now.
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