The best way to discover the truth!
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Peace be upon everyone,
Who are we?
Why were we created?
Why are we here on Earth?
What is our destination?
What really happens after death?
How can we make spiritual progress?
What is consciousness?
What is God?Do you believe you are a human being?
Do you believe you are a male or a female?
Do you believe you are your mind?
Do you believe you are a form-based being?
Do you believe reality must be 3 dimensional?
Do you believe your existence is linear?People claim to find the truth about these questions and others in divinely inspired books, divinely inspired religions, from teachers, priests, imams, from science etc., but how can we discover the actual truth and the reality for ourselves about all these questions and many others? How can we be completely sure that what we have learned is actually the truth? How can we verify it for ourselves? How can we break free of the blocks and boxes created by beliefs, dogmas and indoctrinations and finally discover the reality? In my opinion, books are not the answer, no matter how divine they claim to be. Religions are not the answer. Teachers, priests, imams etc. are not the answer. Science is not the answer.
I think the best way to discover the truth, and to get all the answers is to experience it yourself! After all it is a personal journey. Question everything, assume nothing. Find out for yourself!
Please watch the following videos fully
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlZNmwCD1pA
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYPn8pVSmUsSome more details
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6IDouR9Uvg
Meditation and channeling are some other ways
http//www.llresearch.org/library/a_channeling_handbook_pdf/a_channeling_handbook_pdf.aspx
Please share your experiences if you have practiced any of this.
Peace and may the love and light of the Infinite Creator be with you.
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Reserving my spot here! I had written something but my computer crashed! I will write it again Insha'Allah to replace this post!
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Who are we?
Why were we created?
Why are we here on Earth?
What is our destination?
What really happens after death?
How can we make spiritual progress?
What is consciousness?
What is God?
"I will answer all these questions, as they can all be answered. I am not "inventing" or "making up a system" and it isn't that "we don't know", because I will only be speaking about what is "real" by definition based on clear logic, so it can be "known" and isn't just my "opinion" and there aren't "other various truths" because what I am suggesting is not a system at all really, like how people offer up "theories" about "how it works" or any of that which are all conjecture, I am only speaking about what is actually literally observable and known to everyone and obvious, nothing more than that. So people jump the gun on me way too much without trying to understand what I'm saying or how I'm not claiming there is some system I know, but this is all we can know basically. So please pay attention to see I am not actually making anything up but only giving clear definitions for things based on how they are, I am not making any claims about things which can't be known. I am only clearly saying how things actually are.
"Who are we?"
We are "experiencers".
What we "experience" is what I call "information".
That is not a matter of doubt of conjecture, we "know" we are "experiencing information".
I do not know if you are or are not, but I know for certain that I am experiencing information.
Information is "that which informs/is made known in some way/form)".
Absolute anything and everything that can be experienced in some way or form is called "information" in this definition I am giving it.
What can not be experienced in any form is called "non-information".
All you have access to is "now", and all you have access to "now" is "information".
If you perceive anything in any way, that is "information", from your thoughts, to your desires, to your emotions, to concepts, time perception or any perception, to objects, to whatever at all "exists in your experience", what you are "experiencing" is always "information" and "non-information" can not be experienced by definition, by definition it is "that which can not be experienced" in this linguistic framework I am building and describing here.
You are whatever information you are "experiencing" or "perceiving" right "now", and that is all you can ever "experience" any moment.
This is because the information you experience "as you", in the specific way and "moment" that you do, is what "informs you of what you are" that moment, and all you are is one that "experiences information" or "perceives information" or "receives input". If "anything else" were to experience exactly and only the information you are experiencing exactly in the way you are and no more and no less information than you are experiencing right now, it would be "you" "as you are now", and not "anything else" at all.
Another note that may be useful is that you only have access to information, so even what you consider "objects" are particular to your "experience of the object" rather than "the object itself", thus the "object" you "experience" are the only aspects of it you have access to and that "object" you are "experiencing" in a sense, only exists in that particular form for certain in your experience. That is to say, all information you experience as you experience it exactly, is unique to "you" as the "experiencer of that certain information".
There is no such thing as "you" for certain outside of or besides what I have described, which is all one can be certain of. Meaning "you" are just your "experience" and your "experience" is "all you are" at any moment and "all you can know" or "all you are informed of".
Synonyms for "Information" can be "Experience" "Perception" "Knowledge" in my usage. So you can also be called "Perceiver" and "Knower" or "Informed". Anything that is "informed" of anything, that is, anything that receives information in any form, thus "exists" in the moment that it is receiving information. When it is not receiving information, it does not "exist" in the moment that it is not receiving any information (or "any new information" also). All moments of "non-information" or "static-information" are skipped.
So even if "you" are "seeing only black" or "seeing only white" you can not process a "sustained moment" but can only perceive "change". That is, some aspect of your experience would have to be changing in order for you to comprehend anything, so what would be changing at least are your "thoughts" which is still the perception of changing information. Static-information is very similar to non-information, and without a sense of "animation" meaning a sense of "change/motion" there is no "existence/life/perception".
So the experience must be "animated" in order for it to be "experienced" and anything that is "experiencing" thus can be said to "exist" the moment it is experiencing information which gives a sense of being "animated" or "moving", some sort of "moving animation" or a sense of "new information" must be coming to the "receiver" because all "non-information" or "static-information" is entirely skipped, so even if such moments occurred, there is no information in them that can be experienced and for those periods there is only "Nothing" for that person, no existence. Nothing is a synonym for "non-information".
So all you have access to is your experience, and all you ever "know" for certain or "are" is what information you perceive in a moment and are accessing.
"What is God?"
It becomes necessary to place this question before the "Why were we created?" question, due to explaining the origin. The question "Why were we created?" assumes in it the creator, so "What is God?" might be more appropriate to answer second before moving on to the idea of being "created".
We know for certain that all we ever experience is "information" because of how the term has been defined to mean "everything, all things experienced, be they concepts, or whatever else, is categorized as information, as long as it has some form and can be experienced in some way, and whatever ways it is experienced are each experiences or information as well".
God can be defined as "that which ultimately makes all this occur" or if one prefers "whatever at all actually is ultimately responsible for all this or is its causation". The reason I phrase it like that, is so that people do not think some accusation is being made towards any particular "being", but rather a definition is being made first, and then we will see what can only fit that definition and what those qualities would be.
All we know is what we are experiencing, and what we are experiencing is information. So we know for certain, "information" exists, it is the "something" that we can be sure of existing, even if we don't define it much more clearly than that or distinguish its parts, or make any "system" out of it.
Information appears "animated" or "moving".
So another definition for the term "God" can be "whatever at all is ultimately responsible for all information and its appearance of "animation".
Please keep in mind, that the "information" does not "exist or exist for us" or "can not be processed in any way" unless it "appears animated" or "moving", non-information and static-information have no "life" or "existence" or "being" as in they are not "be-ing" as in "exist-ing".
The "movement" of animation can also be thought of as "creation" and "destruction", since "former information no longer exists when new information replaces it, thus the former is destroyed as the newer is created (and takes the place in our experience or "attention"" in appearance, and this gives a sense of "transformation" or "change".
So "whatever at all which is ultimately responsible for that" is what I am making the definition for the term "God". Now keep in mind also that I am saying "ultimately" in my definition, I am not talking about any "sciences" or "forces" in between, but only referring to the Ultimate cause of any information that "exists" thus is "animated information" or "information which is exist-ing or be-ing".
Something which is "destroyed" or "ceases to Be" can not "do" anything, so "information" can not be "responsible" for "information" or "animated information", because when something ceases to "be" it has no existence at all in order for it to continue to act or take any action. So something that ceases to "be" and thus is "destroyed" and "no longer existing" can not not "do" anything or "make" anything happen, because it does not exist in any sense in order to make it happen.
So what we are calling "God" is not information, but "before" information always as its "cause". That is to say "that which is destroyed can not create anew, and information is constantly destroyed and created as in animated and changing, and the destroyed information can not create the new information, so that which is ultimately responsible for the creation of new information or the appearance of animation is what is being referred to here as "God".".
Information is destroyed and created and destroyed and created again in order to "exist" or "be", and whatever is "behind" it doing that, can not be "information" itself, since as soon as information is destroyed and ceases to exist there would be no way for any new information to come into existence (and information could not be destroyed or changed in the first place if there were not a force acting on it to do so or it somehow destroyed itself, and its ability to destroy itself if it were able to destroy itself would be dependent on some "system" and a "system" is information as well and can not exist on its own for the same reasons, thus all points towards an Ultimate power that is not information itself so not effected by these things).
What is being referred to as "God" can not be "information", but is being defined here as "whatever at all is ultimately responsible for the creation and destruction and creation again of information".
Because God can not be information directly or essentially, as explained above, God is in the appearance of "non-information" or "Nothing" and can not be perceived in any way directly, since only information can be perceived, and all information is created by God. Yet God is not "absolute nothing", if "absolute nothing" is going to be defined as "that which has no qualities or abilities and does not exist", because God needs to "exist" in some sense in order for "information" to be "created and destroyed and created again". Now if God "existed" but was in the appearance of "non-information" and so "like nothing" then there would either be "only absolute nothing" and thus no "information" or "God existing and appearing as nothing" and still no information anywhere (essentially, that is to say almost the same thing), so God does not only "exist" but God has the intrinsic "power" or "is the power" that can manifest or generate information and destroy it and create anew, if it were not for God having and being that power, there would be nothing at all anywhere and no information. That is to say, "information" is the "evidence" and the "proof", and this can be deduced logically as I have displayed here clearly. It is not a "system" it is only what is "necessary" based on "what already exists for us in our experience".
Thus, information by its very nature must be "powered" by what I am calling her as "God" ultimately, but the word can be exchanged for "The Power" or whatever else a person might prefer, because God must "Exist" and "Be the Power" and "the Power is the ability to create and destroy and create again" which is the only possible way for there to be "life" or "existence" or "be-ing" of "information".
Now to "do" anything, there must be a "drive" and if there is no "drive" or "will", nothing will happen, and nothing will be done and there will only be nothing. So this "power" to "create and destroy and create again" is "driven" and it is "driven" by the "Will" of God, which "is God" or "God is Will" among the epithets, or if you want some comedy "God is the Will Smith" the "Who forms the Will" and the "Will is whatever then is created by the creative power of God" and all these are basically the same and part of God's intrinsic nature which is ever-existing. God's "will" is not like what we know as our "will" which is "conditioned by information we are dealing with in the moment", but God is "unconditioned" because in order to "manifest information when there was no information since information can not exist before God or exist at all without God, God would require the "will" to do so, or the "thought" if you prefer that term, to do so, but this "thought" or "desire" to do so, can not be based on any "conditions" when there were "no conditions" so it must be "intrinsic" that God is able to will things "FREELY", "FREE WILL" a will not confined by anything above it or below it metaphorically, or around it, but entirely unbounded and un-caused and baseless, without conditions driving it actions." If God did not have the ability to "Will" "Freely" and wasn't the "Will Smith" then there would be no "drive" or "power" to bring anything into existence. A "system" which would be "made of information" can not do it or generate information or even exist or be in place without what is being defined here specifically to explain all this as the only way.
So God has the intrinsic ability to "Will" and the "Will of God" is the ability or "Power" to create information and destroy information and create information anew, which is what gives information its "life" or "animation" or "existence" or "be-ing".
So God and God's qualities are known logically if anyone takes the time to actually think and see what is absolutely necessary, nothing more than what is necessary, nothing less than what is necessary, but only what is absolutely necessary for what exists in our experience this moment to exist.
Information can not exist or "continue" as in "be animated/transform/be created and destroyed and created anew" without God doing it, and this can be called "Sustaining" but the word "Sustaining" and "Foundation" can be misleading, and make people think that it is operating on its own somehow when it can not, as I've explained, information can not exist or exist again and it isn't just being "upheld" but is actually being "created" constantly by the "Will of God" or "Power of God creating and destroyed based on the Will or Drive of God to do so Freely".
God could not make use of the "Will" if God could not "Decide". You will see all the "attributes of God" are those which are often absolutely necessary.
God "encompasses all information" but this gives people another wrong idea, that they are in some kind of "orb" or have a "place" "somewhere". God is not made of information, so is like nothing, and so God is not "encompassed by a location" nor "has boundaries" nor is "infinite in space" since "infinite space" and "boundaries" are both forms of information, but God is like nothing at all and is creating and destroying and creating information "within itself" only in a sense of our limited language ability, because there is "no place" but "God", there is no "space" or "location" all of it is just information and information has no "place" or "location" except "within God" who is "like nothing" so is not "empty space" either. In other words, "space" and "dimensions" and whatever else are just information we are receiving, they are "illusory" in a sense, yet "real" in that they are "real information which exists and is perceived by us" but there is no "location" for any of this besides "God" who is not "space" but the information is just being created by God "within God" but God should not be imagined as an "orb" or a "container" or a "box" or even "infinite space" since all those things are information and God is not at all information.
God is actively creating and destroying, which can be called "sustaining" but should not be thought of as "upholding what has an existence of its own that continues to operate fluidly without being destroyed and created anew in order to appear "animated".
The information which is created by God exists nowhere "else" but God, and there is no "place" in any sense, there is only "God" who is the "place" of everything, but God is not like a "park" or a "planet" but is "like nothing, nothing but God" and we can not by any means logically as I have laid forth here "wander" or "exist" or "continue" without "God doing it (because I explained how information ceases to exist in order to continue and only God is what is being referred to as that which is what is doing all of that)" that is "where", for lack of a better term, all this is being done by God, so in a sense "within God alone", there is no other "place" or any "space" but God, but God is not "space" which is just information created by God.
Again, these are not things I am just making up out of nowhere, they are logically necessary, they are not inventions of my own, and they are also additionally confirmed by the scriptures from around the world as well, but even if they never said these things (and they almost all do), they can be logically deduced as I am showing you, and there is no "other way", the logic is "air tight" so to speak, and none of this is a "proposed system of how it works" but these things "must be logically in place always" and these are only "Eternal Truths", and "Eternal Truths" are all "what must be" while "truth" in its little form can be any information that exists or exists "as truth" but logical necessities if they are carefully observed are only those which "must exist" in order to explain whatever, and the real and only "Eternal Truth" is literally God alone because unlike the "truth" or "falsehood" which are both just "information" the "Eternal Truth" is what "must exist" in order to "create the experience" of either "truth or falsehood" at any "moment".
Therefor, "truth" with a little t in this case, can be defined as "any information which exists" and "falsehood" can be defined as "any information which has no current existence or "reality".".
God is not "separate" but "encompasses all information within Himself" (and God is not a Him or a Her which are just "information" related to genitals in this moment of our reality), but is "separate" in the sense of not being dependent on information, but information being dependent on God in order to exist or be "animated" as explained above. God is "encompassing the information" and thus can be said to "know it", the "information" "is what it is". That means "what you are experiencing in particular IS the information you are experiencing in particular, it is not SOMETHING ELSE, you have no access to SOMETHING ELSE, the information IS exactly what you are receiving, you don't have access to anything but exactly the information you are receiving. This may be hard to understand, so I will continue to explain.
You have no access to the chair for example other than the "information of the chair" and that "information of the chair" is all that "exists in your experience" that is to say "the information of the chair is a thing, but you have no access to anything but the information of the chair, not the chair itself if it exists at all in any other way".
Do you understand? It appears that the information is "referring" to "something else", but you have no access to that, nor do you know if it has any "independent existence" in any form (and it doesn't have any "independent existence" unless it is a receiver of information like you who receive particular information which "IS" you and "All you are", because there is no such thing as an "independent existence" really anyway, there is only "information which is received" and "how the information is perceived" "is the thing you have access to only".
This is not me making things up, this is logical deduction and truth. You do not have access to the "wall itself" but all that is being created in your experience or added to your creation is "information of the wall" and that is the "wall's only existence" in your world.
(As a side note here, one should think about how "what we experience is what we are" and how then we might be consider being compassionate, since doing harm to what is in your experience, is doing harm to what only exists for you and what you are and are made of, so basically like hurting an extension of what you "are" and thus making your own experience full of suffering, making your own self suffer by having suffering in "what you are" which is the information you receive).
So God "knows it all" not the way people imagine, the way we think of objects as having an existence apart from the information we receive of them, but the information we receive of them "are" their own thing, they "are" the thing, there is no "other", and so God knows whatever information exists (which is that which is experienced, that which is known, that which is perceived, those ARE the tings, those things don't have independent existences unless they are receiving information, and God is the one creating all the information that exists "within" itself), thus is in a sense "experiencing all the experiences" which "are" the information, and experiencing whatever else that God might create as experiences that only God experiences and not others of those who experience within God (limited sets of information reception any moment).
So if you imagine a board with moving pictures on it, God encompasses all those moving pictures and is viewing them all, while the moving pictures are "limited" in the information they are perceiving any "moment", they can only see what information they are receiving or is being created in that box, while God is "informed of" all "information" it is creating for all the boxes and those exclusively experienced by God, but there is no information that exists or can exist "apart" from God as in "unviewed" or "unknown", because "information only exists as it is what informs, what is made known, what is experienced in some form" "it is the experience itself, and you are the experience when it is happening, it is a part of what you are at that moment" and if God doesn't create it, it can't exist, and if God doesn't experience it, it isn't information at all, and only God alone is non-information. So it is that anything that ceases to exist is thus called "returned to God", in that it is no longer experiencing information and no longer having an existence or experiencing a limited set of information so is not "individuated" by "being information" or a "set of information" and so "has no existence of its own". Behind everything is this Nothing that Is and Does All. The "individual" can not "experience being God" really, because you would have no "you" to experience in that case, and so no "you" would be experiencing anything. Thus no one can ever truly "be" God for this reason, because "they" that limited set of information, would not exist, and God is Annihilation of all that because God is not information at all.
Why I went into this, is because what suffering you experience, is information specifically created by God, and God is encompassing that information (the suffering, the events, every aspect of the experience IS the information, it is not referring to something else, but IS the thing that is being created), and thus is "experiencing" it too, because if it is not "experienced" it is not "information" and "does not exist", and so God is, however blasphemous it may seem, the one who is Compassionate by definition, because Compassion means to "suffer with", and it is a quality that nothing truly has, because no matter what, we are never experiencing the information another is experiencing exactly as they are experiencing it, or else we would be them and not "us", while God is encompassing all their information entirely, and the information that "is" all others and creates it and destroys it and creates anew. God does not "suffer" the way we "suffer" in the sense that we "suffer" due to our lack of ability to stop it or experience anything else, but God does exactly "experience" the information exactly as "we know it" or "we experience it" because "the way it is experienced" "IS the information itself" there is no "other information" that we have access too, the information "IS" the experience itself the way it is.
Please read that all carefully if it is hard to understand. Not any of it is invention, it is completely based on logical deduction and necessity. It is not "necessary" for "God to create information" or "create specifically this information we experience whenever we experience it and how we experience it" but it is necessary that in order for it to "be information" it must "inform" in order to "exist" and it "informing the way it informs" "is its existence" and "God is the one experiencing it all" or "informed of all of it" and God "being informed of it" IS "its existence" because if it is not "informing" it is not "information" and "does not exist".
Lets move on to the next question
"Why are we created?"
In our experience of information, we appear to be "dependent" ultimately on "causation" or "conditions" and even our actions are "defined and refined by conditions" which appear to push us, and constrain our power or ability to act and shape it. In other words, we have the impression of being driven by circumstances and once pushed, constrained by circumstances, like being pushed through a funnel. Yet all that drives us and constrains us in our impression is "information" in its appearance. God exists when there is no information before or after God, thus no "conditions" or "circumstances", but God creates all those experiences of "driving" and "constraining" factors in our experience, and ultimately the experience itself that moment as it is, but never had such factors around (and it is impossible as I explained for those factors to have existed or constrain God or drive God since they are information and God is the one that creates information and is not constrained by information but encompasses it and is "beyond" it in that sense as it is dependent on God to exist in whatever forms it may be experienced or "exist"(which is only it being experienced)).
Since God had no factors like that, the answer to the question of "Why" is thus, that since God had nothing to drive it, nor anything to confine it, God Freely Decided and Freely Willed and Freely brought about the generation of whatever particular information in a moment and in the way that God did (God is not confined or driven by "time" either which is just a perception created in some experiences and a concept created by God within God not outside of God or having any existence except within some experiences God creates). So even in this, God is unlike us, as we have the impression of circumstances driving us, while God has no circumstances driving God, it is complete and true Free Will and being the Smith of His own Will, the Will Smith, and the only truly Free Will, that is entirely unconditioned by circumstances and un-driven by any other power or plight.
So in that sense, there is no "why" or "reason" other than "God creates what God wills". Which is what I was trying to say to people, and they thought I wasn't answering their question! I was answering their question in the ONLY PROPER WAY THAT IT CAN BE ANSWERED. It is not a matter of "we don't know, it could have had some reason" because if it "had a reason" that would mean what is being proposed is that "God is conditioned by information such as "circumstances" or anything else" and that is what I was saying is a tremendous blasphemy and untruth, which they might not even realize they are making, because it is putting information such as "reasons" or "circumstances" above God as driving factors, or below God as confining factors, or around God as partners that shape the decisions of God, while GOD ALONE IS THE WILL SMITH. This is not me just saying that, I have explained with pure and strict logic why that is ABSOLUTELY THE CASE, it is not that I am "proposing a system" or "it is just a theory" no, I am only saying what MUST be, there is NO OTHER WAY IT CAN BE, and if you don't see that, then you have not followed the logic properly, and have misunderstood my statements and do not have any understanding of why what I am saying is how it is ultimately and why it can not be another way at all and is not just some "system" like how people make up "systems" and "this is how it works" but "this is how it MUST work" it is logical necessity, that in order to get these results, these are the components required as they needed.
So God CAN NOT "have a reason driving the actions of God" besides "God's FREE WILL" which is God's unique ability, because no one other than God alone is truly THE FREE ONE. "FreedomStands" can be taken as a reference to that, that God alone who is Free, is the one who "remains" (as in "stands".
I am talking about that, but I am information, experiencing a drive and confinement by circumstances of information experienced by me. I am not God, and no one is God but God alone, and God is like Nothing, both in the sense of being Unlike anything and in the sense of literally being like Nothing as in not being made of any information at all. Our "drive" is information, God's "drive" is intrinsic, self-driven Power to Will and Will to Power and the ability to DECIDE. To Decide to will some experience into existence, and to DECIDE or DECISIVE ability (Judgment/Distinguishing) is necessary for God to be able to DO anything, because if God could DO or NOT DO but could not DECIDE, then NO ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN. But God produced the CHOICES and God MADE THE DECISION, and that is why anything exists as it exists in any "moment" or "now". This can not be done without DECISION, thus those who say "God/Nature has no mind, is blind and does not know" are wrong, because Knowing is the Existence of Anything, Knowing is Seeing, and Decisive Ability is absolutely NECESSARY for anything to exist as I have logically shown here, there can be NO OTHER WAY. The idea of a "thoughtless creator" is absolutely unfounded and illogical, but people do not think very far or very logically so they think it "makes sense" or "must be" but they don't even use their minds to see how that is IMPOSSIBLE, it isn't an OPTION even, it isn't even a POSSIBILITY, and that is not just ME being a Fanatic about it, it is because without DECISIVE ABILITY no ACTION can be TAKEN.
My God, thank you for blessing me with so much logic, and making me the one to say these things and understand these things, and please guide others into my experience who might also come to know! Thank you also for inspiring in me all this, and such prayers, as I could never know if you did not tell me! Please do not take away this knowledge from me or my experience, but keep me as the foremost and best who know you and speak of you! Bless me with the most and the best blessings and gifts and experiences forever and always! Thank you for everything master! You have been most wonderful to me! You decided for me to specifically exist as I do, to be beautiful in conduct and speech, and whatever good you have given me, it is all from you, and all credit belongs to you! You are and have always been THE DECIDER! All praise be to you! All praise belongs to you! There is NO OTHER. Please always keep me grateful and the most excellent and wonderful and highest and foremost of your honored elect of servants!
All of you can pray for that and potentially accomplish that! God can make all of you the best in an instant or in phases or not at all or sometimes or never or always! All is easy for God who has nothing confining or restricting His DECREE or DECISION or POWER or FREE WILL, and so God can make something true easily, and can make something false easily, and can make something as if it never existed, and can make something as if it always existed, the ideas of "never" and "always" or "sequential time" or "chronology of events" only "exist" as "parts of experiences" they are just "information" that "is part of some experience" at any moment, and thus "illusory" in the sense that they can easily be rendered non existent, and are just information which can freely be destroyed and exchanged, and there is only "now" and "this moment" with God who has "always been" as "time" is only a concept that God created in some experienced, God is not confined by it, and we are within God, and our experiences are only existing "now", "we" do not "exist" anywhere "else" simultaneously, because something that is not experiencing the information we are experiencing "now" is "not really us" "as we are this moment" and "all we ever are is the information we are experiencing this moment".
"Why are we here on Earth?"
Once you understand what I have said above, and understand God's Free Will that is unconfined by conditions, the Qur'an's words make a great deal of sense as answers to all these questions. God freely created the experience of Earth and the way it is experienced as a "habitation" or "condition" for "mankind to experience". Earth was created as the "reason" for "mankind" (that means that Earth was created in the experience of some humans as the atmosphere or habitation which drives them and confines them and is often their reason or explanation for doing what they do and how they do it), and the "reason" ultimately for "all of it and anything ever ultimately" is that "God freely willed so".
"What is our destination?"
Every moment that is lost, every moment that was "before" and therefor "destroyed" is "returned to God", thus the "Journeying is to God" every moment even, and "God" is ALWAYS the destination, no matter what we are experiencing, the "place" is God, the only STABLE or REMAINING or NON-TRANSITORY, or ETERNAL FACTOR that is in a sense "STILL" and "ALWAYS",
Every time you experience skipped moments, which could be constantly, but particularly when you experience a "dreamless sleep" which is like "death" you are "returned to God" and even now, your location is God and your Journey through experiences and your Beginning and End and Beginning Again are All to God Alone and with God Alone.
"What really happens after our death?"
If you are dead by the definition I am giving the word, "you" are not existing, as in "you" are not "experiencing information" and "experiencing information" or "being informed" is "all you are ever any moment". To say "any moment" means "no matter what the moment may appear as" as you only ever experience "this moment".
The entire "period" in which you do not experience information and thus do not exist in any real sense unless you are experiencing information (and thus alive in some way by my definition), is "skipped" as "non-information can not be experienced in any way" and so the only thing you can experience "next" is "new information" and according to the Qur'an that will be the information given to you regarding your Resurrection and return to life, but no matter what, know that death if it is to be a real death means you will not receive any information or have any existence, just like before you were born, and no matter "how long it takes" ("time" and "time perception" merely being created information in some peoples experiences) you will be skipped right to the moment you experience any information of any kind in any way as "as you" or "the experiencer who you know is you or who you feel now is you". Thus also, are the "guilty" those who "know themselves as those people who did those things" meaning that their "information about themselves" and "their existence" and "what they know themselves as" is by those "memories" which "exist in the moment" and "how they know themselves" and thus are they "obviously guilty, even to themselves, and speak out against themselves" because "their evil conduct from their past which make up their memories is how they are defined or what they deem themselves to be in the present", but it is God alone "informing them of what they did" that is "creating in whatever moment the memories of their conduct which they define themselves by and consider themselves to be" and "we are whatever God informs us we are" and are all thus "the creations and slaves of God only".
"How can we make spiritual progress?"
By doing what you can do when you can do it towards what you strategically and logically deem the least inducing of harm in the short and the long term, the worst harm being the most lasting kind, and seeking pleasure in the short and the long term, the best pleasure being the most lasting kind of pleasure! People often mistakenly take the word "pleasure" to mean "sin" while "sin" literally means "harm" and in my definition the "highest goal" is to attain the most lasting pleasure or "positive experience, peace, satisfaction" which is Paradise or an Eternal Paradise existence and experience, while the worst and most lasting kind of harm is the Punishment in Hell, or an Eternally Hellish existence of suffering, pain, anxiety, and torture.
We basically have to, as far as we seem to be able at any moment, strategically operate in order to do what is most pleasure inducing and try to save ourselves from harm in this life and potential harm in the afterlife, so charity, meditative exercises related to God for our own health and sake and future (worship), and things like that generally. Being kind and compassionate, and "doing unto everything where possible as you would have God do unto you". So if you want to seek the mercy of God, be merciful and compassionate and kind, and if you want the gifts of God, be generous, and pray for whatever you want as well earnestly knowing that God can without a doubt grant you any sort of information in your experience and that it is easy for God, but that God alone is The Decider. One can also look back about what I said regarding compassion here and how everything that comes into our experience only exists "as that", meaning in that specific way, in our experience, and so in a sense their existence in that form exactly is only in our experience and part of us, so extending kindness to all those that seem to experience information and even those that do not seem to should be a priority to keep. Be kind to all the animals, and meditate also about how they are not really different from you, how you too go about and seek food in your life and struggle with circumstances, and make life gentle and give them ease as you would want ease, and feed them as you would want to be fed, and do not frighten them or harm them or cause anxiety in them just how you would not want anxiety or distress caused in you, so do unto others as you would have God do unto you, and be the most wonderful person you can imagine, and eschew all evil conduct from your behavior, and do not be the cause of suffering or cruelty but be merciful, for the cruel are said to be thrown in the fire, as they made life "hell" for people in many cases, even by fighting and harassing them, and so "hell" will be made for them, and God has decided all these things and God has not made an error but creates all of them and the manifestly cruel are said to have their home in hell.
"What is consciousness?
It is the experience of any information.
Thank you for asking these questions, and if anyone reads my answers, please let me know! I hope you like them and do not misunderstand them as so many seem to!
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Hello FreedomStands,
Thank you for sharing your understanding but I think you misunderstood the thread. This thread is not about the answers to those questions, but the best way to discover the true answers to those questions.
I think the best way to discover the truth is to experience it yourself, instead of trusting other sources or asking someone else. Find out for yourself! One way to experience the truth for yourself is discussed in the referenced videos.
Did you watch the videos I referenced?
What method did you use to discover the answers to those questions? In other words how do you know the answers to those questions?
Is it logic? If so, then human logic can be flawed.
In the 1930's, Austrian mathematician Godel proved a theorem which became the "Godel theorem" in cognition theory. It states that any formalized 'logical' system in principle cannot be complete in itself. It means that a statement can always be found that can be neither proved nor disproved using the means of that particular system. To discuss about such a statement, one must go beyond that very logic system; otherwise nothing but a vicious circle will result. Psychologists say that any experience is contingent - its opposite is logically possible and hence should not be treated as contradictory.
The existence of paradoxes in logic demonstrates that it is not perfect.
Logic is invented by fallilble human beings and as such, logic is not expected to be perfect.
Logic relies on language, numbers and symbols which by themselves are not complete and thus contribute to the emergence of paradoxes.
The most critical limitation in logic is not its paradoxes but the fact that logic only proves the truth-values of its propositions and not the truths of reality.
"That logic should have been thus successful is an advantage which it owes entirely to its limitations, whereby it is justified in abstracting -- indeed, it is under obligation to do so -- from all objects of knowledge and their differences, leaving the understanding nothing to deal with save itself and its form." -Kant.
Whilst logic has its flaws, it is still very useful as long as we know its limits.
In addition, those who by nature have high inclinations to use logic should not be too arrogant or 'dogmatic' on it.
Peace and may the infinite Creator bless you.
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Hello FreedomStands,
I am going to write a speech, or a "rant" and many parts of it have nothing to do with you particularly, so please take no offense, nor should anyone take offense at it, because I am speaking in general and it isn't always even particular to this website, it is what I have seen all over the place with lots of people
Thank you for sharing your understanding but I think you misunderstood the thread. This thread is not about the answers to those questions, but the best way to discover the true answers to those questions.
I think the best way to discover the truth is to experience it yourself, instead of trusting other sources or asking someone else. Find out for yourself! One way to experience the truth for yourself is discussed in the referenced videos.
Did you watch the videos I referenced?
What method did you use to discover the answers to those questions? In other words how do you know the answers to those questions?
Is it logic? If so, then human logic can be flawed.
In the 1930's, Austrian mathematician Godel proved a theorem which became the "Godel theorem" in cognition theory. It states that any formalized 'logical' system in principle cannot be complete in itself. It means that a statement can always be found that can be neither proved nor disproved using the means of that particular system. To discuss about such a statement, one must go beyond that very logic system; otherwise nothing but a vicious circle will result. Psychologists say that any experience is contingent - its opposite is logically possible and hence should not be treated as contradictory.
The existence of paradoxes in logic demonstrates that it is not perfect.
Logic is invented by fallilble human beings and as such, logic is not expected to be perfect.
Logic relies on language, numbers and symbols which by themselves are not complete and thus contribute to the emergence of paradoxes.
The most critical limitation in logic is not its paradoxes but the fact that logic only proves the truth-values of its propositions and not the truths of reality.
"That logic should have been thus successful is an advantage which it owes entirely to its limitations, whereby it is justified in abstracting -- indeed, it is under obligation to do so -- from all objects of knowledge and their differences, leaving the understanding nothing to deal with save itself and its form." -Kant.
Whilst logic has its flaws, it is still very useful as long as we know its limits.
In addition, those who by nature have high inclinations to use logic should not be too arrogant or 'dogmatic' on it.
Peace and may the infinite Creator bless you.
I know this thread isn't about the answers to those questions, I understood that and I read your original post as well. I took the opportunity to answer those questions. For the very thing you posted here, I explained it in what I wrote, under the terminology that "information can not create itself or be explained by itself". I guess you didn't read what I wrote or appreciate my contribution. Thank you for your reply.
Certainly the worst way to "know" something is to just assume whatever comes to your mind or is whispered to you from inside is certainly the truth, and what I wrote about were only "necessities" as I explained in what I wrote. Of course it appears very long and overwhelming, so people don't want to read it, and even if they read it partially or entirely, they often seem to misunderstand and think that I am just saying things that can't be known for certain, when I am speaking only of the necessities of reality, and I am very particular in my language and careful.
I'm quite sick of Muslims saying "they don't know" and by doing so they worship various idols in their imagination based on their ignorance, their ignorance itself is an indication of their flirtation with idolatry, and what I am writing is to make people certain and without a doubt as to what must be logically necessary, and the absolute worst thing to follow is your "intuition" or "heart" in matters, as such has led people to horrific assumptions and absurd ideas, and has led many to their utter destruction in this life and possibly any others.
So what you wrote about logic isn't wrong, but what I wrote is not dealing with "proving if the microphone exists or not" or any of that kind of silly stuff, I deal only with necessities, and even mention things which are in the same vein as what you wrote to me (which makes it appear you didn't actually read or understand anything I wrote).
Thank you for the blessing, but I find the repeated and practically empty words people are presenting on this website are in themselves quite jarring, like people saying rude things (you didn't say anything rude, I just mean other people) and starting and ending with their feigned "peace" or "God bless".
Seriously, I came here originally to just get in contact with some new people who were interested, but while I waited I ended up writing some really interesting stuff (interesting to me at least, since I may be the only one or one of the very few who actually reads and understands what I am writing apparently).
Sorry for any hostility you may perceive in my response.
Free-Minds.org is teaching me that the "Muslims", and even those who I expected to be good due to their having gone to the Qur'an, are the victims of the same (shall we call it retardation?) that the kaffirs deal with in their thinking day to day.
If I could take people by their necks and put shock collars on them, as I expect my Master to do someday, I would love to put the fools in harnesses and drive them before me as slaves.
Oh how terrible that must sound to all of you, but why should I hide it?
I really dislike what I've encountered on this website for the most part, the people are really abhorrent to me in many ways.
Oh no! Don't say that! Certainly I am being fanatical! Well this is "free-minds" isn't it? Here I set myself free to discuss with you candidly how I'm feeling.
I spit at these concepts that people are presenting, not out of arrogance so much as that they are entirely based on nothing worthwhile, and all the while they THINK that what I am saying is not actually based on absolute necessity and that I am just presenting "a system" with any similarity to theirs, and to justify their stupid interpretation of what I say, they entirely misrepresent it and end up reviling even God in the process.
Though it is good to revile God, since that word is now associated with every sort of idolatry and idiocy imaginable.
You Muslims, Yeah, You Muslims, Do not "know" your God? Or is it that you "know" what you do not even try to understand? You have "surrendered" to something without being able to properly understand and describe what it is you are "surrendering" to? Then let me tell you what you are surrendering to. You are surrendering to falsehood, and garbage, not Allah at all. Such was the same of the idolatrous people of the past, who did not use their minds to follow things to their necessities and stick to the necessities, and instead imagined things and possibilities and were full of conjectures which led them nowhere but hopefully to hell. "We do not know" they would say "We do not know for certain if God has a face or not", "We do not know if God is partnered with Love or not" etc. Do you know how infuriated that makes someone who DOES ACTUALLY KNOW because of thinking about only what is absolutely necessary? If this was a world without consequences, I would be the foremost in acting towards the destruction of such people, and I invite the True God to put an end to these horrible creatures just like God did in the past.
Oh what a wicked desire, eh? The desire of the Prophets, the Angels, and God and all those who KNOW.
Do any of you understand by chance that by saying "we don't know" your worship is entirely misdirected? Do any of you realize that by saying "we aren't sure" that you are flirting with all sorts of shirk and partnerships, and the shirk is the highest of sins that isn't forgiven if you die in it?
When you aren't sure, and when you don't know, you should not be speaking about any of these things (I don't mean you personally). Remember when the Qur'an says do not approach prayer in a drunken state or when you don't know what you are saying? Well this seems to be one of those cases, where people constantly are saying to me "we don't know" and they think I am the one guessing, when I am telling you that I am NOT guessing, nor am I just SAYING THINGS that I have invented, I am speaking about what is NECESSARY. Take out the word LOGIC if you find it a block to understanding. Take out the word GOD if it makes you think of idols in any form which is anything which can be partnered with (shirk means sharing, the sharing of powers in particular).
I really find it totally annoying how people on this website (quite stupidly actually) get really obsessed with particular words and then take offense to or pounce on their usage, like some people hate the word "religion" here and insist on other things (My response is "Who CARES!" it is entirely idiotic to get stuck on words and let them trip you up so much, and I don't mean you in particular), or get obsessed with other silly words, like "logic" and "truth" or whatever else.
I mainly see deep ignorance here, and not the good kind of ignorance, where people don't know something so they seek to learn, but the kind of ignorance that people literally shut their eyes and refuse to know, even when it is laid out for them endlessly. Those are indeed behaving like the "deaf, dumb, blind".
It is also stupid how people think they need to "put me in my place" out of their own arrogance and think that my contributions are just my own arrogance rather than something they could potentially use to their advantage tremendously. They think I am making it up, they think by my using the word "logic" (and Oh am I sorry for using a word that so many people yet again find difficulty to move past to actually focus on what the heck I am saying) I must then be presenting something similar to anyone else who uses the word "logic" and since all such people are "flawed" then certainly even this thing I am saying about necessary components must also be flawed so we shall ignore it (because indeed it was too long anyway).
How many times have people come back to me with a complete misrepresentation or misinterpretation of what I have written? It is almost every single time, and they really seem to adore their ignorance and their "unknown God" and his associates.
God is not "unknown" or "unknowable" for the reasons people think, it is not that there is some abhorrent CREATURE somewhere hiding from you which MAY BE GOD. Such a thing, even if it existed, should NEVER BE CONSIDERED GOD OR WORSHIPED. What I have written explains why.
Do you understand? When you see the Buddha, Kill the Buddha. Why? Because that is delusion! It is imaginary! There is no such thing!
So all these peoples Gods, their stupid Gods, I would kill them all, and I am here now to try to encourage you to kill them as well. THAT IS THE RELIGION OF ABRAHAM, THAT IS THE RELIGION OF MUSA, THAT IS THE RELIGION OF JESUS, THAT IS THE RELIGION OF MUHAMMED.
Abraham smashed the idols both physically and in his own mind. Musa destroyed the Man who claimed Power (Pharoah) and the Golden Calf and had the idols of his mind destroyed by Allah in the event of the "showing", and Jesus rejected people idolizing him, and Muhammed cleansed Mecca.
So even if all your idols exist, all of them, even if they are floating around in space, even if the Gods with "faces" and the Gods that look like suns, and the Gods that are like mist, all exist, THEY ARE NOT TO BE WORSHIPED, we do not "not know" and therefor invite every sort of idolatry into our imaginations. WE MUST KNOW, WE MUST KNOW.
There is no "maybe" about it, there is no "well you don't know if God has a face or not" NO! NO! YOU MUST UNDERSTAND WHY ANY "Face" is NEVER GOD. If you don't understand that and why that can NEVER BE THE CASE, then you (I don't mean you personally, I mean anyone who doesn't know that and why that can't be) is REALLY AN EASY VICTIM FOR SHAITAN AND SHIRK.
"What is wrong with believing in a God with a face?" BECAUSE THAT CAN NEVER BE GOD, THAT FACE IS NOT GOD, NOT EVER, because that FACE is made of information, and if you can not handle the word information, just replace it with "something".
Even Paul's letters in the Bible make it clear that he understood that what is seen is transitory, what is not made out of "something" alone is eternal.
I explain why that is NECESSARY, why that is SO.
I didn't misunderstand the intention of this thread, I used the opportunity to write and share something, and it doesn't seem you even cared to read it, assuming that "we can't know" or promoting perhaps that people should "know in their hearts". If their hearts are diseased? They will never follow the proper path and should never be told to follow their whims or the whispers of their mind or their intuitions, look at all the people that following their "heart" has led them to bigotry and "I just know Jesus is the Lord" and whatever other blasphemies they say "I know in my heart that God is just like us and has a wife". Yeah? Forgive my language but ____ the heart! The "heart" which has misled so many people in this world and kept them so ignorant "because it just feels right".
SMASH THE HEART TO BITS, STOMP ON IT UNTIL ITS COMPLETELY DEAD. SMASH YOUR BRAIN TOO WHILE YOU ARE AT IT! Since it seems completely broken for so many people. It is time to get a NEW HEART and a NEW BRAIN one that does not flirt with IDOLS and does not believe in a disgusting "God".
If you think "Allah" is not exactly what I am saying and only what I am saying, because I have only said what is absolutely logically necessary, and you think "He doesn't know, surely Allah might be something else" then you not only haven't read or paid attention to my writing, but you (and I don't mean you personally) are worshiping only imaginary things or leaving the option opened for imaginary things, and such things even if they exist are never ever what should be called or considered God.
If you see something in-front of you, and it says "Hello, I am Allah" slit its throat and throw it in the gutter where it belongs with the rest of us.
Gouge out its eyes, and tear it to shreds, and then you may know the True God and the Only God.
NOT THE ONLY GOD JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THINK SO AND IT MIGHT NOT BE TRUE BUT JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE THE CASE. NO! THE ONLY GOD BECAUSE THAT IS ACTUALLY NECESSARY ABSOLUTELY AND CAN NOT BE ANY OTHER WAY IF YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD AND LET YOURSELF COME TO KNOW WHY!
This is so important, but again what I've written here will be misunderstood probably, and people will call me crazy and say look how hostile and scary he is and pray earnestly that I leave this place and go away so they can live in peace with their baseless ideas that are not based on necessity at all but just conjecture.
I am not conjecturing, nor do I flirt with Shirk, and I know what I am talking about, not the way a fanatic knows from "blind faith" and is really just passionate about his own imaginary delusions, but I know because of REALITY and what is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. The more than that would be the conjecturing, but when I have written these clear explanations it is so that people KNOW, it isn't GUESSING, it is only talking very carefully about necessity.
Thank you for reading this, I hope you all can also read carefully what I wrote above this.
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Peace FreedomStands.
Now," Pilate" would be looking for you . All his soldiers( the members here who are misunderstanding you/rude to you) will be arresting you. Then you will be made to carry your cross ( across all the threads!), humiliated and debased because how dare you "smash up" their gods?
You will soon be in court in front of Pilate and his soldiers accused of being crazy...etc.
I am the man from the other sideof the world warning you to make a run for it...
On a serious note. Relax and enjoy yourself here . This forum is not that bad .
Sit down, I bring you a cup of tea. Good, now you are refreshed. Back to work.
GOD bless you.
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Peace FreedomStands.
Now," Pilate" would be looking for you . All his soldiers( the members here who are misunderstanding you/rude to you) will be arresting you. Then you will be made to carry your cross ( across all the threads!), humiliated and debased because how dare you "smash up" their gods?
You will soon be in court in front of Pilate and his soldiers accused of being crazy...etc.
I am the man from the other sideof the world warning you to make a run for it...
On a serious note. Relax and enjoy yourself here . This forum is not that bad .
Sit down, I bring you a cup of tea. Good, now you are refreshed. Back to work.
GOD bless you.
Peace.Haha, I'm sorry if my post disturbed you, I was exactly making the speech to give that tone which you picked up on, but humorously. I really enjoyed your post, but just so you don't feel too bothered, my speech above and my cross carrying drama is part of a "passion play" re-enactment of the Qur'an/Bible and not meant to be taken too seriously, it is just playful, and of course it couldn't really be made possible or as wonderful as it has been without the assistance of all these other characters and people playing along (even though they seem to often take it seriously possibly but should understand I am not bothered and I have encouraged it multiple times explicitly and try to let people know this just to allow them to let loose their wild side if they wish, in a safe environment like this website, and also it helps me because it exposes potential ways people argue and what arguments they make which I can adapt to then in the real world where I'd never try to get in trouble or be noticed or ganged up on or encourage it haha, only because of my soft body, if I had an awesome metallic and immune body that no one else did and no one could hurt you, it might be fun then to go out preaching and encouraging stoning).
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Peace FreedomStands.
Now," Pilate" would be looking for you . All his soldiers( the members here who are misunderstanding you/rude to you) will be arresting you. Then you will be made to carry your cross ( across all the threads!), humiliated and debased because how dare you "smash up" their gods?
You will soon be in court in front of Pilate and his soldiers accused of being crazy...etc.
I am the man from the other sideof the world warning you to make a run for it...
On a serious note. Relax and enjoy yourself here . This forum is not that bad .
Sit down, I bring you a cup of tea. Good, now you are refreshed. Back to work.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I concur with good logic. Which I would also call "good heart", even if that smacks a bit of "intuition" to freedomstands, hehe.
Because I do trust intuition, my intuition, and that of others when it is in agreement with mine..... rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
Salaam, even if I am one of the "unpleasant" ones.
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I concur with good logic. Which I would also call "good heart", even if that smacks a bit of "intuition" to freedomstands, hehe.
Because I do trust intuition, my intuition, and that of others when it is in agreement with mine..... rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
Salaam, even if I am one of the "unpleasant" ones.
No way, you're not! I also use my intuitive abilities and guess at things, but when it comes to my writing things that I am saying are necessary for anything to exist, those are not guesses, but speaking about things that are absolutely necessary.
I often use my intuition and listen to the whispers, but what I was trying to say is that those things are absolutely not tools to "know" or "be certain" of essential and necessary things. I am also saying I do not "trust in the intuition" of "others" because I have seen how many people use their intuition in a bad way and say "my intuition tells me not to listen to sense" or "Jesus is God" or whatever other things. It isn't a matter of "maybe Jesus is God, who knows" but it is actually quite clear to anyone who can comprehend what I am writing why Jesus CAN NOT BE GOD because of what is NECESSARY as I've explained but no one seems to read.
Also, I am glad you are laughing and having fun, when I am making a big fuss and a drama it is also for the sake of humor and comedy.
Look at my latest humorous speech that may seem like I'm angry but I'm actually trying to also make people amused
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607144.msg362297#msg362297
I hope he finds the humor in what I've wrote, I also poke fun at myself in this way, and my speeches are meant to be funny or make me appear like a funny or amusing character (which I am, hopefully, even to you all).
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Peace FreedomStands,
I know this thread isn't about the answers to those questions, I understood that and I read your original post as well. I took the opportunity to answer those questions.
I know that your intentions were good, but isn't that inconsiderate and even disrespectful by going OFF TOPIC in someone else's thread? fftopic
I guess you didn't read what I wrote or appreciate my contribution.
A sincere advice would be not to assume or guess about anything. Conjecture will seriously hinder you in your quest for the truth.
Did you watch the videos I posted? Your lack of any comments about them seem to imply that you didn't, but I don't want to assume or guess, so I am asking you directly.
Contrary to what you conjectured, I did read your post and I agree with some things you wrote and I disagree with some things, but I didn't comment on it because that would be off topic fftopic
If you wanted to answer questions that I didn't ask, you could have created a new thread. If you were considerate to others, you would have the courtesy to limit your comments to the topic of this thread, and would not have gone off topic.
Certainly the worst way to "know" something is to just assume whatever comes to your mind or is whispered to you from inside is certainly the truth,
Agreed.
Finally, on topic for the first time in this thread. yay
and what I wrote about were only "necessities" as I explained in what I wrote. Of course it appears very long and overwhelming, so people don't want to read it, and even if they read it partially or entirely, they often seem to misunderstand and think that I am just saying things that can't be known for certain, when I am speaking only of the necessities of reality, and I am very particular in my language and careful.
What you think the "necessities" of reality are, may not be the actual "necessities" of reality.
How do you know what you claim to be the "necessities" of reality, are in fact "necessities" of reality? What is the source of your information about what "necessities" of reality are?
I'm quite sick of Muslims saying "they don't know" and by doing so they worship various idols in their imagination based on their ignorance, their ignorance itself is an indication of their flirtation with idolatry
Agreed.
and what I am writing is to make people certain and without a doubt as to what must be logically necessary,
Logic has its own flaws as I outlined in my previous post.
I repeat How do you know what you claim to be "logically necessary", is in fact "logically necessary"? What is the source of your information about "what must be logically necessary"?
and the absolute worst thing to follow is your "intuition" or "heart" in matters, as such has led people to horrific assumptions and absurd ideas, and has led many to their utter destruction in this life and possibly any others.
3030 and 1736 seem to claim otherwise.
3030 So establish yourself to the system of monotheism. It is the inclination that God has nurtured the people on. There is no changing in the creation of God. Such is the pure system, but most of the people do not know.
1737 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of; for the hearing, eyesight, and heart - all these you are responsible for.
"Intuition" or "heart" can be right also but by closing yourself off to that possibility and being dogmatic about it being "the absolute worst thing to follow", you might miss out on the truth. At least be open to the possibility of "intuition" or "heart" being right.
So what you wrote about logic isn't wrong,
I am glad we have logic out of the way as being the best way to discover the truth.
Thank you for the blessing, but I find the repeated and practically empty words people are presenting on this website are in themselves quite jarring, like people saying rude things (you didn't say anything rude, I just mean other people) and starting and ending with their feigned "peace" or "God bless".
I will continue to send blessings to you and everyone else because I have an idea who you and everyone else here are in reality Not the earthly reality but the real reality
Seriously, I came here originally to just get in contact with some new people who were interested, but while I waited I ended up writing some really interesting stuff (interesting to me at least, since I may be the only one or one of the very few who actually reads and understands what I am writing apparently).
I know you have good intentions, but my sincere advice to you is to be considerate to others and don't go off topic in someone else's thread.
Before you again start assuming and guessing what I have read or haven't read, rest of your reply was off topic, so I am not going to comment on it even though I read it! fftopic
Please open a new thread if you wish to bring those issues to the attention of others.
Peace and may the infinite Creator bless you all.
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Peace FreedomStands,
I know that your intentions were good, but isn't that inconsiderate and even disrespectful by going OFF TOPIC in someone else's thread? offtopic
A sincere advice would be not to assume or guess about anything. Conjecture will seriously hinder you in your quest for the truth.
Did you watch the videos I posted? Your lack of any comments about them seem to imply that you didn't, but I don't want to assume or guess, so I am asking you directly.
Contrary to what you conjectured, I did read your post and I agree with some things you wrote and I disagree with some things, but I didn't comment on it because that would be off topic offtopic
If you wanted to answer questions that I didn't ask, you could have created a new thread. If you were considerate to others, you would have the courtesy to limit your comments to the topic of this thread, and would not have gone off topic.
Agreed.
Finally, on topic for the first time in this thread. yay
What you think the "necessities" of reality are, may not be the actual "necessities" of reality.
How do you know what you claim to be the "necessities" of reality, are in fact "necessities" of reality? What is the source of your information about what "necessities" of reality are?
Agreed.
Logic has its own flaws as I outlined in my previous post.
I repeat How do you know what you claim to be "logically necessary", is in fact "logically necessary"? What is the source of your information about "what must be logically necessary"?
3030 and 1736 seem to claim otherwise.
3030 So establish yourself to the system of monotheism. It is the inclination that God has nurtured the people on. There is no changing in the creation of God. Such is the pure system, but most of the people do not know.
1737 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of; for the hearing, eyesight, and heart - all these you are responsible for.
"Intuition" or "heart" can be right also but by closing yourself off to that possibility and being dogmatic about it being "the absolute worst thing to follow", you might miss out on the truth. At least be open to the possibility of "intuition" or "heart" being right.
I am glad we have logic out of the way as being the best way to discover the truth.
I will continue to send blessings to you and everyone else because I have an idea who you and everyone else here are in reality ) Not the earthly reality but the real reality )
I know you have good intentions, but my sincere advice to you is to be considerate to others and don't go off topic in someone else's thread.
Before you again start assuming and guessing what I have read or haven't read, rest of your reply was off topic, so I am not going to comment on it even though I read it! offtopic
Please open a new thread if you wish to bring those issues to the attention of others.
Peace and may the infinite Creator bless you all.
I didn't go off topic at all. Just because you don't like the response (and tell me what is wrong with anything I said), doesn't mean it is "off topic". I stayed entirely on topic. The topic is called "The best way to discover the truth!" and you asked those questions in it (even if you despised the answers, you still wrote it and I was responding to those things you wrote, it wasn't off topic, as I was also talking about the best way to discover the truth, which is thinking in the manner that I showed clearly). So nothing about what I wrote was off topic, and even now it is not off topic. Just because you didn't want to read it or that it was so lengthy doesn't mean it was off topic at all, it was completely related to what was written here and even to the things you wrote in your post, so what in the world are you talking about? Might it not be considered inconsiderate of you to not appreciate such a lengthy reply completely based on the questions you wrote and as a reply to the topic of this thread "The best way to discover the truth!". Huh?
Now "How do you know what you claim to be "logically necessary", is in fact "logically necessary"? What is the source of your information about "what must be logically necessary"?"
It shows me that you did not process what I wrote, because if you did, you would know I did not conjecture or make guesses at all and based everything I wrote on actual necessity, it isn't a matter of "how do you know it is logical necessity or necessity at all?"
This is how I know To say "something exists" and not specify, or to say "there is information" is not a GUESS, nor is it a CONJECTURE, it is speaking of something in a vague way THAT IS KNOWN AND WELL ESTABLISHED based on how it is being defined carefully. If you can not process that, and you think that "maybe there isn't information" you are being an argumentative person with no sensible basis for any such claim because "information" is being defined as "this all" and if you are saying "this all" does not exist and is not being experienced, then you are an obvious liar in that case. Do you understand that these things are OBVIOUS? They are not "guesses" when I say "information is experienced" because I am experiencing it, and if you aren't experiencing it, I wouldn't know either way, and I was very clear in my language if you took the time to notice. I call this "How do you know what you claim to be "logically necessary", is in fact "logically necessary"? What is the source of your information about "what must be logically necessary"?" kind of stuff promotion of a broken brain mentality, literally its like someone has to be to put it in modern slang "retarded" to think they can justify the statement that "there is no information".
So there are some things that can be "known" and I explained them clearly.
The whole POST was explaining why the things I am saying are only the necessary things to explain reality and why God is necessary to lead to the conclusion of this information which exists.
Not only that, but promoting following the heart is wrong and dangerous, and has had bad results. You say the Qur'an doesn't say so, the word "heart" in Qur'an is used to refer to the "mind" often and the "understanding, consciousness" and says the hearts of many people are diseased, that is basically saying they are "retards" they can not understand "hearts with which they do not understand". To ask people to just rely on that and not give them the answers is asking for big trouble.
Nothing I am saying is wrong, and I never went off topic.
So if you're a "truth seeker" then you will focus on what is necessary and known and observable and obvious and can be determined by using your mind, and you will not be able to understand any of it if your mind is "broken" or "diseased".
It is the "diseased" mind that says things like "How do we know there is anything at all?" lol how ridiculous and absurd, and they think they are being wise by saying such things? No, they are just being dumb and contentious.
or "How do we know it is necessary". I EXPLAINED THAT THE WHOLE POST WAS EXPLAINING THAT DID THAT JUST FLY OVER YOUR HEAD ENTIRELY?
I explained only what is NECESSARY for information to exist and specifically WHY and WHY it can not be any other way, such as "information creating itself" ALL OF IT WAS EXPLAINED CLEARLY.
Now tell me what you disagree with so I can adapt accordingly, but if it is something you can't possibly grasp, then don't worry about it, though you seemed somewhat intelligent before (though you also went into some ideas of "systems" which I DO NOT EVEN MENTION IN MY WRITING, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME PROPOSED SYSTEM, like "the Earth revolves around the sun" or ANYTHING LIKE THAT. It is only to those things that one can reply "How do we know for certain the Earth is revolving around the sun and not some other way" I don't even GO INTO THAT, I go into only what HAS TO BE TRUE and I explain it in detail).
So "How do we know it is necessary" is insulting to ask me, because the WHOLE LONG THING I WROTE EXPLAINS WHY.
To claim "nothing can be know for certain" may seem pious to you, but it is absolutely foolish when it comes to SOME FEW THINGS, such as "there is information/stuff/something" because that is OBVIOUS AND OBSERVABLE, we are not DISTINGUISHING, if you DENY IT then you are a LIAR, it is not something which can be honestly denied, I am not saying "The sun is made out of cheese" I am saying the MOST BASIC THERE "there is stuff" "there is something" "there is information" only a completely contentious and idiotic person who is lying would deny the existence of "stuff" in the vaguest way and say "how do you know there is stuff" when they are using "stuff" even to communicate their stupid question (sorry, I don't mean you in particular, but you really must put it in your mind that some things are indeed entirely stupid to be contentious about).
Can you understand the frustration one might feel when the MOST BASIC HONEST STATEMENTS ARE MADE and they are rejected? How the most basic and vague thing like "there is stuff" can be denied? It CAN NOT BE DENIED, IT IS ONE THING WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE I AM SAYING "whatever at all this is, I am calling it "stuff" or "information". Are you not experiencing anything? Are you just a contentious person who would argue about something that can indeed be known without a doubt? Do you think you're some philosopher because you can say "how do we know there is anything" when you are experiencing "something" because whatever you are experiencing is being defined in the most vague way possible as "something" and no specifics about it are being made? Are you not aware how frustrating that might be to hear someone deny the existence of anything at all while they are even in it and seeing it? Certain such would be DEAF, DUMB, BLIND and a LIAR to boot.
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I did not SAY anything which can not be clearly KNOWN and is OBVIOUS if anyone uses their mind for two seconds. You would understand why God CAN NOT BE INFORMATION because I EXPLAIN IT CLEARLY WHY GOD CAN NOT BE INFORMATION, and if you think "maybe God is information of some kind" then you are IGNORING THE CLEAR DEFINITION I HAVE GIVEN FOR THE TERM AND THE EXPLANATION OF WHY IT CAN NOT BE SO.
The capitalization is for emphasis, please understand.
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Also, please take no offense, my furious speeches crack me up, I find them very funny and I hope you can too (as they are not intended to insult you personally).
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Peace FreedomStands,
I never take any offense, so the following is not meant to imply that. It is just an observation of mine.
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You are making false hypotheses (putting words in my mouth that I never said or implied), and then addressing the false hypotheses. This is called strawman fallacy.
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You are initiating ad hominem attacks on me which is another fallacy.
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You still haven't answered my direct questions to you, other than saying things are "obvious", and "known" and "necessary".
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You still haven't had the courtesy to do something that I requested you to do and to comment on it.
Therefore, I think it will not benefit either of us to continue this discussion, and there will be no further comments from me.
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I leave you in the love and light of the infinite Creator.
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Peace FreedomStands,
I never take any offense, so the following is not meant to imply that. It is just an observation of mine.
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You are making false hypotheses (putting words in my mouth that I never said or implied), and then addressing the false hypotheses. This is called strawman fallacy.
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You are initiating ad hominem attacks on me which is another fallacy.
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You still haven't answered my direct questions to you, other than saying things are "obvious", and "known" and "necessary".
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You still haven't had the courtesy to do something that I requested you to do and to comment on it.
Therefore, I think it will not benefit either of us to continue this discussion, and there will be no further comments from me.
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I leave you in the love and light of the infinite Creator.
As I explained, my comments were not directed at you specifically, they were general. I actually quoted your words though directly.
No, I think you misunderstood yet again, and I'm glad you're done commenting as it is pretty disgusting to see such misunderstanding repeatedly.
I did answer your questions with the example of how information is something that can't be denied, and explained how and why. If your brain is broken and can not comprehend that in particular, then there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it (of course I may seem to you the one with the broken brain).
I do not have the same glad tidings for you as you do for me. May you come to know that I wasn't wrong at all though, and in fact that what I said was true and that you were the one being contentious about it. Allah will decide the matter between us. Also feel free to communicate with me normally in other threads, this battle need not be extended outside of this particular thread.
Even though you can't seem to derive any answers from what I've written due to what might be some form of disability, I will answer again these numbered points you want me to, and you need to have patience, though if you can no longer communicate (cat got your tongue?) in this thread to me directly, that is fine. I look forward to my further responses, and I do not look forward to your further misunderstandings.
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Wow, promoting "channeling" eh? Yeah, no wonder you reject what I've written. Have patience, I'm going through your new age videos as you requested. They are long too and take time that I don't have too much of when I'm writing all these long things you hate to read of course!
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I think the best way to discover the truth, and to get all the answers is to experience it yourself! After all it is a personal journey. Question everything, assume nothing. Find out for yourself!
You took the words right out of my mouth. Very well, very wisely said!
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Do you believe you are a human being?
Do you believe you are a male or a female?
Do you believe you are your mind?
Do you believe you are a form-based being?
Do you believe reality must be 3 dimensional?
Do you believe your existence is linear?Answering these questions also is "off-topic"? What was the topic? Opening a gateway for Satan through channeling and out of body experiences? Gnosis through hallucination? Not reading replies? Yeah, great stuff you're promoting here. Everyone who shows up as rejecting what I've written seems to have some vile Gnostic agenda in their hand ironically.
I never mentioned any of those questions because those are the sorts of things which are conjecture, or rather they are arbitrary as you can say yes or no to them based on the definitions and none of them are necessary or eternal truths.
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Peace fellow truth seeker Martha,
You took the words right out of my mouth. Very well, very wisely said!
Thank you for your kind comment!
Please ponder and reflect on the following signs from al-quran
3942 God seizes the souls at the time of their death; and for those that have not died, during their sleep. He then keeps those that have been overtaken by death, and He sends the others back until a predetermined time. In that are signs for a people who will think.
Do you agree the above sign refers to having an "out of body experience" by our soul, or "astral projection" during sleep? In my opinion, dreams are what the soul perceives during such an OBE while sleeping, and is one way of experiencing the reality and the truth for ourselves, especially by lucid dreams or even a fully conscious OBE.
4251 And it is not for any human being that God would speak to him, except through inspiration, or from behind a barrier, or by sending a messenger to inspire whom He wills with His permission. He is Most High, Wise.
Al-Quran was channeled to Muhammad by Gabriel with the permission of God.
297 Say "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel, then know that he has sent it down into your heart with the permission of God, authenticating what is with him, and a guide and good news for the believers."
16102 Say "The Holy Spirit has brought it down from your Lord with the truth, so that those who believe will be strengthened, and as a guidance and good news for those who have submitted."
Do you agree that 4251, 297, 16102 refer to "channeling" from God directly or from a messenger sent by God?
In my opinion, channeling is another way we can experience the reality and the truth for ourselves. I believe that the infinite Creator channels anyone who is open and receptive to it, directly or through positive spiritual entities. Meditation and salaat are some ways of opening such a channel, hence the emphasis on salaat in al-quran. How else would salaat "command you" if not through such channeling?
1187 They said "O Shu'ayb, does your salaat order you that we leave what our fathers served, or that we do not do with our money as we please? It seems only you are the compassionate, the wise!"
Channeling is a communication between God or a spiritual being and a human, by telepathic inspiration. Channeling itself is a neutral term. There can be positive channeling from God or positive entities as above, or negative channeling from negative entities, so one should be very careful and attempt to channel only God or positive entities and reject the negative channeling.
Peace and may the love and light of the infinite Creator be with you.
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How do you know it isn't a sophisticated deception if something claims to be God and seems to say things you like? How do you know it isn't God if it says things you absolutely hate and are horrible seeming? I don't recommend these extremely foolish practices at all, because people are really inviting self deception thereby.
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Salaam,
Al-Quran itself gives an answer to that by using your inner compass/conscience (3030), mind/reasoning (1611, 1644), and real world evidence (4153). Using these 3 methods, you can always avoid deception and verify the truth.
I agree that 99% of the channeled messages will be from higher density negative entities and only 1% will be the truth from higher density positive entities or even the infinite Creator itself, but by using those 3 methods you will always be able to figure out which is which.
As far as fully conscious OBE is concerned, you don't have your physical body in that state. Instead you temporarily go into a higher density state of existence when you have an OBE, and only have your astral, mental, and spiritual bodies (just like after death) in that state, so it becomes impossible to deceive you.
You are instantly exposed to the ultimate truth as soon as you die but then it is too late to be implemented in the life that just expired. On the other hand, once you master fully conscious OBE, you get to learn the same ultimate truths which you learn after death, but this time you get a chance to go back and implement the truths in your life.
Sufis (wali Allahs) routinely have fully conscious OBE and channel higher density positive entities and the infinite Creator. In fact, anyone can do that with some practice, and experience the truth.
I leave you in the love and light of the infinite Creator.