Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Peace Pazuzu.
2788 is in the present tense. just like 2782 and 27 86 before it,these verses are dealing with now. There is a mix in this sura of present and future "verses" that deal with now "this life" and the future "next life".
Go back brother and read from 2776 ( This Qoran settles many issues for Beni Israeel ( and everyone else),issues that are still disputing."
Up to 2793( And say Praise be to GOD, He ( No gender..) will show you His proofs/ayaats... until you recognise them. Your Lord is never unaware of anything you do.)
Like I said before ,pasting biased links one way or the other is never proof .
Come on brother, it is easy to find out what shape the earth is!!!!!. We can climb to a decent enough height using our present technology and see it, clear and simple for all to see.
We do not even need reasoning or intelligence or debate. A simple go and see for yourself is enough.
Some have reached "our mind is made up" state. A dangerous state indeed.
As for the distance of the sun from the earth, brother ,if it was the distance you claim,everyone and everything would have burned alive!!!!!!
I am just amazed at your claims brother, no offence intended. I expected better evidence from you.
GOD bless you.
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https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Asian_national_space_programs
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Ye cherish what the Maj. believes because it gives you a (false) sense of security ...
Even though ye know you've been conditioned (since childhood), and ye know ye are getting your strings pulled (by your furtive masters, & their minions) still, YOU'VE GOT NO BALLS TO FACE IT!
Ye (dumb sheeple) have lost track,
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I already pointed out the different seasons of theyear in both hemispheres south and north.
Also the thing about the phenomenon of bodies standing on earth and not suspended or flying sideways or up and down on all the earth's surface. There is something that makes them stick to the surface and stay put there unless something is done to make them move in any way. If the earth is flat then it must have something like a magnet to make them stick to the ground all over any point on the surface. It is logical if it is a more or less spheric body that bdies would stick to the surface equeally on all points of it. But on a flat slice all of it should be able to bring down all objects to any point of it ssurface what is it? Mass can exist as much in mid air as in mid earth, what makes them fall and stick to the ground, and in water to go down if they wieght more than water. Resistance of water should be the same going upwards as going downwards or to the sides.
Salaam
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YOU'VE GOT NO BALLS TO FACE IT!
Nothing wrong with being feminine. I'd advise you however to keep further talk about balls and sheeple to the sport and agricultural/recipe threads respectively. Unless there is a combined thread dealing with both. And if there isn't, there should be. Many thanks. -
Nothing wrong with being feminine.
How about cowardice?
Is global cowardice all right!?
I'd advise you however to keep further talk about balls and sheeple to the sport and agricultural/recipe threads respectively. dealing with both. And if there isn't, there should be. Many thanks.
Keep your (silly/biased) advice to yourself.
I didn't insult a specific person! I'm criticizing the Majority (for their ad populum).
If you cannot tolerate me expressing my personal view/s then, be my guest and ban me!
Ye cherish what the Maj. believes because it gives you a (false) sense of security ...
Even though ye know you've been conditioned (since childhood), and ye know ye are getting your strings pulled (by your furtive masters, & their minions) still, YOU'VE GOT NO BALLS TO FACE IT! Ye (dumb sheeple) have lost track, for ye are worse astray than cattle (2544)!Where in the Qurn does it say G-D made the earth a "sphere"!?
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To summarize and where this eventually seems to lead to is the understanding among flat earth adherents that you disbelieve in God if you think that the earth is not flat and you follow the devils/occults by way of adhering to the theory that the earth is not a flat plane. And so the entire basis of salvation and acceptance of you in God's eyes is the flat vs sphere theory - at least that's what it appears to be from what I have been reading here so far.
In my humble opinion, we are completely deluded by arguing about this anyway. The Quran stresses believing in The All-Mighty and the day of judgement and to do good to mankind.
This whole flat vs sphere vs egg vs cylindrical nonsense is only creating a divide between believers even when it is a non-issue.
The Quran stresses morality, that is a big issue, why is everyone keen to argue over something that has no basis in morality?
If the earth is flat so it's flat, if it's spherical, so it's spherical, if it's egg shaped - so be it, I personally have no problem with it being whatever, because it does not make any difference to what real issues are.
This is like the 19 code thing all over again where you are guided if you accept Dr Khalifa and his claims, and you are a kaffir or infidel or disbeliever if you don't.
Salaam,
That's interesting.
Thank you.
Peace.
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So flat vs sphere has become a matter of identity. Too much emotions... like in politics, religion, nationalism and sports. Science-Objectivity has left the building, and Indentity-Emotion has taken over.
It would be nice if both the Flat side as well as the Sphere side of the debate would compile a list of say 10 questions that the opposing camp would answer. Like "How do you explain xyz". It'd be nice for a comparison. Then everyone can judge for themselves on a limited number of issues.
Peace
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How about cowardice?
Is global cowardice all right!?
Yes that's right, you can sit there proclaiming you're lugging the biggest virtual e-spheres around all day, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, when the sun goes down over that horizon, and it's light somewhere else in the world because the globular earth is spinning around on its axis, it just looks really whiny..."I'm right and everyone else is a brainwashed coward afraid to face the truth because they can't handle the truth"...but then again, don't think you care how it comes across, you're too busy believing you've got the truth figured out, good luck with thatKeep your (silly/biased) advice to yourself.
Let's do the Hicham9 no, no you keep your silly biased opinions to yourself.I didn't insult a specific person! I'm criticizing the Majority (for their ad populum).
Of course, whoever falls in that category would include a good chunk of the people here so...what's your point?If you cannot tolerate me expressing my personal view/s then, be my guest and ban me!
If only you could keep it to your personal opinions and not extend your abrasive attitude like the suns shadow at 4 in the afternoon while the globular earth is spinning on it's axis causing said effect in conjunction with the big ball of fire in the sky...it would be amazingly beneficial to your tenure on this forum. You do want to make friends don't you? The flat earth journey is long and never ending apparently, don't go alone. -
Yes that's right, you can sit there proclaiming you're lugging the biggest virtual e-spheres around all day, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, when the sun goes down over that horizon, and it's light somewhere else in the world because the globular earth is spinning around on its axis, it just looks really whiny..."I'm right and everyone else is a brainwashed coward afraid to face the truth because they can't handle the truth"...but then again, don't think you care how it comes across, you're too busy believing you've got the truth figured out, good luck with thatLet's do the Hicham9 no, no you keep your silly biased opinions to yourself.Of course, whoever falls in that category would include a good chunk of the people here so...what's your point? If only you could keep it to your personal opinions and not extend your abrasive attitude like the suns shadow at 4 in the afternoon while the globular earth is spinning on it's axis causing said effect in conjunction with the big ball of fire in the sky...it would be amazingly beneficial to your tenure on this forum. You do want to make friends don't you? The flat earth journey is long and never ending apparently, don't go alone.
You don't get it do ya!
My one and only question was
Where in the Qurn does it say G-D made the earth a "sphere"!?In other words, I don't give a hoot what the Maj. thinks the case to be !
To me, G-D's Judgment stands fr above our fallible opinions! So unless you have a valid answer (from G-D's Messenger), don't try to be the class clown. -
I find it rather silly actually.
Personally I would not be decided on a flat earth unless I could verify it for myself instead of theorize. It feels one would just risk dumbening oneself if it was wrong because it sounds quite retarded to believe the Earth is flat in 2015 AD with all technological gadgets and satellites in the sky and telescopes observing in the far distance with an objective constructed to view on ridiculously far distances.
Well, since space technology is getting cheaper and more readily available and new technology is being developed it will likely not take far until it is undeniable that there is an outer space.
I have also heard and also seen a documentary about research on producing artificial gravity which if they are successful would shut the mouths of those who speak against the phenomenon of gravity. This would be produced by a rotary engine at high speed which replicates the movement of a planet and thus induces gravity so that astronauts do not have to float while in space.
In science-fiction and in scientific theories there are anti-gravity generators which probably can be invented with the know-how.
Probably if man can invent strong enough magnetic accelerators they could propel a craft by using the innate magnetism in the planet itself and surrounding planets. Future spacecraft engines will probably be hybrid with multiple propulsion technologies for while in the atmosphere and close to to the proximity of the planet and while it is drifting in space.
If they can get the craft to react against anti-matter like a matter antimatter reaction the craft may be able to change direction in space or strong enough magnetic engines can use the radiation from bodies to navigate.
Everything is the matter of development of new technology. My motto is "Everything is possible, nothing is impossible".
Personally I find all research to speak against this flat Earth conspiracy. So many nations are in the space age and have their own programs. And even Iran is working on this and they have no relationship with NASA or America at all for USA is their archenemy.
Someone here spoke of mass, but no matter there needs to be a traction force from somewhere or the Earth would be quite disorderly.
As far as I am concerned it is also possible to track satellites with telescopes to view them.
Be well
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You don't get it do ya!
My one and only question was
Where in the Qurn does it say G-D made the earth a "sphere"!?In other words, I don't give a hoot what the Maj. thinks the case to be !
To me, G-D's Judgment stands far above our (fallible) "history" and "science"! So unless you have a valid answer (from the Writ), don't try to be the class clown.Yeah God wasn't expecting us to use our minds, or other faculties much then. Your valid answer apparently is that the word flat is used thus the earth is literally flat, even though the world is not literally flat even to one's naked eye. But it's still literally flat, just in a very specific way that you have chosen to see it as. I'll leave it to the personal discretion of those reading as to how clownish that answer is. I'll just wait and see if someone else has a more interesting explanation of the "flat earth" that isn't as silly as this.
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My question remains unanswered.
Yeah God wasn't expecting us to use our minds, or other faculties much then.
Yes, G-D expects us to use our own minds, ...
The least thing one can do is look at a flat carpet, and visualize how it would look from an ant's view.
But, then you didn't!Your valid answer apparently is that the word flat is used thus the earth is literally flat, even though the world is not literally flat even to one's naked eye. But it's still literally flat, just in a very specific way that you have chosen to see it as. I'll leave it to the personal discretion of those reading as to how clownish that answer is. I'll just wait and see if someone else has a more interesting explanation of the "flat earth" that isn't as silly as this.
We shall see.
As of now, you may laugh to your heart's content.
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My question remains unanswered.
You'll probably not get to the right answer by asking a wrong question.The least thing one can do is look at a flat carpet, and visualize how it would look from an ant's view.
But, then you didn't!
I do that all the time. It's one of my favourite hobbies. I also like to look at my crystal ball and pretend I'm a nanoant creeping steadily to enlightenment on it's surface. Guess what the nano-ant sees? And if you had a crystal ball, or probably any ball...you wouldn't have to. You'd know.We shall see.
Indeed. Wouldn't bet on it currently though, I should however consult Mrs. Crystal to predict the possibilities (yes the ball has a feminine name, don't judge). -
I find it rather silly actually.
Personally I would not be decided on a flat earth unless I could verify it for myself instead of theorize. It feels one would just risk dumbening oneself if it was wrong because it sounds quite retarded to believe the Earth is flat in 2015 AD with all technological gadgets and satellites in the sky and telescopes observing in the far distance with an objective constructed to view on ridiculously far distances.
Well, since space technology is getting cheaper and more readily available and new technology is being developed it will likely not take far until it is undeniable that there is an outer space.
I have also heard and also seen a documentary about research on producing artificial gravity which if they are successful would shut the mouths of those who speak against the phenomenon of gravity. This would be produced by a rotary engine at high speed which replicates the movement of a planet and thus induces gravity so that astronauts do not have to float while in space.
In science-fiction and in scientific theories there are anti-gravity generators which probably can be invented with the know-how.
Probably if man can invent strong enough magnetic accelerators they could propel a craft by using the innate magnetism in the planet itself and surrounding planets. Future spacecraft engines will probably be hybrid with multiple propulsion technologies for while in the atmosphere and close to to the proximity of the planet and while it is drifting in space.
If they can get the craft to react against anti-matter like a matter antimatter reaction the craft may be able to change direction in space or strong enough magnetic engines can use the radiation from bodies to navigate.
Everything is the matter of development of new technology. My motto is "Everything is possible, nothing is impossible".
Personally I find all research to speak against this flat Earth conspiracy. So many nations are in the space age and have their own programs. And even Iran is working on this and they have no relationship with NASA or America at all for USA is their archenemy.
Black +1 Exactly what I have been trying to say. Earth is sphere (if that is the exact word) NOT flat. Most that are denying this are doing it out of ignorance that is what I have observed so far. I know I have written 'round' but it's because my English sucks, what I mean is 'sphere' to be more specific. Always nice to learn new words in English.
Red I wouldn't really trust Iran on what they claim. Much what they keep saying is actually a lie IMO. For example their aircraft they call "Qaher-313" has received a lot of criticism (see https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qaher-313#Doubts_of_viability_of_aircraft) and I believe it is totally fake. There is no doubt they are trying to do similar things here. Iran often claims to have developed technology as a way to scare off the Westerners but in reality it does not that hold that technology. But I might be wrong. However that still doesn't change the fact that other Asian countries such as China, Japan and India are great at aerospace engineering. Unmanned probes and rockets have been fired up. Everybody has acknowledged that what NASA says is true. There is really no point for NASA to lie because that lie would have been exposed a long time ago and would have made NASA look unprofessional which is not what they want.
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lmao nasa illuminati CONFIRMED
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You do see the thing going into the hole though right?
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Time to use our ears,eyes and brain.
Indeed.
Love it or hate it there is some wonderful Science that has freed humanity and shown us some amazing facts.
Brother, allow me to remind you with this (good) explanation below.
The following excerpt is from an e-mail I exchanged with a friend, a few days ago
That's a good answer. You have a point there. But before I reply to you regarding the paradigm issue, I would just like you to know that throughout the years, I have learned to differentiate between two kinds of science
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empirical science the kind that gives you information and facts that you can easily verify for yourself, using relatively simple tools.
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politically correct science, or occult science the kind of science which enforces upon the masses certain ideologies that have no evidence whatsoever, or that rely on false evidence, fake evidence, or evidence that is intentionally made to be so spectacularly intricate and complicated, that the layman like you and I cannot understand it, and will eventually become discouraged from looking into it. In other words, pseudo-science.
This second kind of ?science? tricks people into believing certain things, and eventually ends up shaping their entire consciousness, in order to make them slaves to the controllers. This second type is the ideology that becomes dogma, and induces a knee-jerk reaction of mockery towards anyone who speaks against it. It is no different than blind, religious beliefs.
Examples of the first type of science
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Water evaporates at 100 degrees. You can confirm this yourself, by doing the experiment with a thermometer, in your own kitchen. Check.
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Hot air is lighter than cold air. Try going up in a hot air balloon. Check.
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The air gets thinner as your altitude increases. Try climbing to the summit of Everest, and see if you will have trouble breathing. Check.
An example of the second type of science In 1969, rocket compulsion technology allowed three American astronauts to walk on the moon.
Also When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving, like the clouds. Such is the manufacture of God, who perfected everything. He is fully Cognizant of everything you do.
Please ponder why it mentions "mountains" - Why "mountains"?
If this verse speaks about "the rotation of the ball-earth", it should not only mountains, but everything on the globe's surface move together, including the sea, lakes, rivers, trees, people, buildings, etc.
My purpose in this thread is not for debate, but to support God and His messages. And I hope there are more people who can be aware that this issue is actually not trivial.
I think Pazuzu brought this flat-earth issue as means to wake people up from the deception. The big issue is about the deception itself. The deception directed to us, and they work organized to deceive us, until the deception is so big and widely spread. They wants to control us, they wants to determine things for us, in other words, they wants to take over God's position.
Brother, if you wake up, perhaps you would recognize the other deceptions, which perhaps could make you astonish on how deceptive, how evil our enemies are. Evils are really serious in their pursuance - taking us into Hell, the Qur'an speaks the truth.
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