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Time To Change Your Paradigm

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    unknownuser
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    Here's a simple experiment you can try

    The fact that the earth is flat can be observed using a telescope with a series of lenses, of various magnifying power.

    Stand on the beach, and watch a ship (at your eye level) slowly sailing away towards the horizon, until it disappears from your eyesight completely. Then, pick up the telescope and look into it. You will see the ship again. Keep on looking at it until it disappears a second time, and pay close attention to how it disappears. You will note that due to your perspective (the vanishing point), it will disappear by sinking straight down. This is how the human eye perceives objects at a great distance. But the truth is that the far away object is not below the horizon. It is still there.

    Now, attach an even stronger lens and look through it. The ship will appear again. And again. And again. And again. Repeat the experiment 100 times, with 100x the magnifying power, and you will keep on seeing the ship, even though you are still at the same eye level, and no matter how far the ship is on the open sea.

    If the earth was a ball, this experiment would fail, and you would not be able to see the ship once it has disappeared completely below the horizon, no matter how much you magnify, because it is now UNDER your eye level. To see it again (on a curved surface), you would have to climb to a higher elevation, to increase your field of vision. Furthermore, if the earth was curved, (8 inches of curvature for every mile), the mast of the ship would not sink straight, but would curve inwards as it disappears.

    Now, go and try this, if you truly have the sense of scientific discovery, as you claim.

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      unknownuser
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      Oh, and one more thing

      Watch the following video, from the 830 minute mark until the 1600 minute mark, and see how the weatherman react to a photograph taken of the Chicago city skyline from 60 miles away.

      Because he cannot accept the fact that someone was able to capture the full extent of the skyline from that distance, the weatherman, speaking straight from his ass, discards the scene as being a "superior mirage".

      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8eIuT-nSAs

      There's empirical science for you.

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        noble
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        Pazuzu,

        Did you do that experiment with a telescope and a ship sailing, or you just read about it.

        Now in scientific comms, we conduct experiments under strict conditions, so do you have witnesses with you to corroborate?

        Was the experiment repeated and repeatable in several places, and under different conditions? and who would vouch for this?

        Pray tell...

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          JavaLatte
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          It is very strange, he is not thinking straight any-more, all the rationality of his previous writings on Yemen has gone, LOL!

          He's fine and still smart,

          and moreover, he has courage to tell you about this.

          Pazuzu, hicham9, and neion zobayed,

          I amazed at your courage, brothers!

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            noble
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            I watched the whole video, it was mental torture, typical American brainwashing trash. One case, one anecdote, a lot of conjecture.
            Earth is pressurised because of its atmosphere, same as the inside of an airplane,
            with everything moving on it in layers at the same velocity, this is why we are experiencing stability,

            when you move around the earth, it is like you move inside a pressurised cabin in an airplane, only it is on a much bigger scale, this is not about accelerating or decelerating, the speed is constant and amortised, we were born in it and with it...

            The style, and pride of the flat earther is nauseating.
            The guy speaking is a crack pot con artist.

            It has not convinced me in the least.

            Earth is a Planet that is egg shaped.

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              noble
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              So pazuzu, now that I still disagree with you after you showed me supposedly incontrovertible evidence of the Earth's flatness, are you going to brand me a Kafir as Isis and Takfiris do, and say that my blood is halal to shed?

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                FreedomStands
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                So pazuzu, now that I still disagree with you after you showed me supposedly incontrovertible evidence of the Earth's flatness, are you going to brand me a Kafir as Isis and Takfiris do, and say that my blood is halal to shed?

                Your blood does sound halal.

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                  FreedomStands
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                  He's fine and still smart,

                  and moreover, he has courage to tell you about this.

                  Pazuzu, hicham9, and neion zobayed,

                  I amazed at your courage, brothers!

                  It is true that "courage/bravery" often goes hand in hand with another thing.

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                    FreedomStands
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                    He's fine and still smart,

                    and moreover, he has courage to tell you about this.

                    Pazuzu, hicham9, and neion zobayed,

                    I amazed at your courage, brothers!

                    He's fine and still smart,

                    and moreover, he has courage to tell you about this.

                    Pazuzu, hicham9, and neion zobayed,

                    I amazed at your courage, brothers!

                    The real courage in this matter might be the sinning involved. I think you all perhaps don't understand how wrong it is to go about convincing people of things which might not be true.

                    It is better that you say it in a careful way

                    "There are a group of people who say this" "this is what scientists say" etc, rather than saying "The Earth is Flat!" or any statements like that, or even "The Qur'an says this!" it is better to say "one interpretation of this word might be this because of this and this".

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Zeal is also something not taken lightly by GOD.

                      It is that separate god delusion which causes those problems when you defend the honor of something, but which you would acts differently about if you knew how close GOD is to yourself. It is not like you have to defend GOD because the sin is returned upon whoever committed it of the same magnitude, and then it is good to be without sin oneself.

                      This flat versus round Earth has gotten the better of us all and we show detrimental behavior several of us and that is counted negatively towards our soul status.

                      If I was flat earther I would not be so sure about it because it is mainly based on theoretical presumptions.

                      If I was round earther I would not be 100% sure the Earth is round even if indications seem to favor that it is. If I was 100% I would let those who theorize upon a flat Earth to have their way.

                      Personally I cannot prove I am not deluded, but based on rational thought I favor the scientific claim of a round Earth. Nothing except these conspiracy theories indicate the Earth is flat and an interpretation of an old book. I hope not to be mocked for believing this way.

                      Be well

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Quran is not empirical evidence because you cannot observe whether it is true or not in itself and an interpretation can be wrong and since Quran is over a millennium old its language is prone to decay in its interpretive condition and not to mention malicious or deluded scholars, leaders or clerics who gave their biased thought.

                        Unless you can observe with the eyes yourself you lack empirical evidence and it is just theses, unless you believe the people who testify having been in space or satellites sending footage back to the Earth.

                        In the end whether the Earth is flat or round is fairly irrelevant for there are greater things to be concerned about.

                        Be well

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                          FreedomStands
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                          Zeal is also something not taken lightly by GOD.

                          It is that separate god delusion which causes those problems when you defend the honor of something, but which you would acts differently about if you knew how close GOD is to yourself. It is not like you have to defend GOD because the sin is returned upon whoever committed it of the same magnitude, and then it is good to be without sin oneself.

                          This flat versus round Earth has gotten the better of us all and we show detrimental behavior several of us and that is counted negatively towards our soul status.

                          If I was flat earther I would not be so sure about it because it is mainly based on theoretical presumptions.

                          If I was round earther I would not be 100% sure the Earth is round even if indications seem to favor that it is. If I was 100% I would let those who theorize upon a flat Earth to have their way.

                          Personally I cannot prove I am not deluded, but based on rational thought I favor the scientific claim of a round Earth. Nothing except these conspiracy theories indicate the Earth is flat and an interpretation of an old book. I hope not to be mocked for believing this way.

                          Be well

                          Exactly! It seems the craziest people are the ones who are 100% sure about anything.

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                            Jafar
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                            http//images.rapgenius.com/93d2bcccaef91d7ba7bac303fe618616.500x382x1.jpg

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                              hicham9
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                                hicham9
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                                The darkest hour before the light

                                A hidden tressure plain in sight

                                For a moment standing still

                                They say we're crazy, they say we're ill

                                What they don't understand, they fear inside

                                What they don't understand, they try to hide

                                You can't hide from us! You can't

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                                  Noon_waalqalami
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                                  NASA, advanced laboratories do exist and the science works with GPS, satellites, infrared laser guidance systems, etc. and they also have nukes, drones, and missiles precisely calculated to hit a cell phone from many miles away.

                                  Eratosthenes (276 - 195 BCE) used geometry and shadows of sticks to estimate the circumference of the earth during the summer solstice June 21 between two locations (Alexandria and Syene, Egypt) hence had an angle and distance all that?s required. Likewise he measured tilt of the earth?s axis (23.5 degrees) which gives the seasons.

                                  Nice video on the math/logic used?
                                  http//www.mozalearn.com/Extra-Videos-Eratosthenes-209501

                                  It?s not flat rather an abode which could be hellish or comfortable as a bed...
                                  3197 provision little furthermore abode theirs hell and wretched al-mihdu/the rest place

                                  786 did not we make the earth mihdan/rest place of

                                  Peace

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                                    Hizbullah
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                                    It seems so.

                                    I need to quote this. Thanks, brother.

                                    Most Welcome sister....

                                    Peace

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                                      noshirk
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                                      Dear pazuzu

                                      i am really surprised to read what you wrote about flat earth
                                      I have to review many things in yemen theory now. -\

                                      it is possible that americans never landed on moon. but flat earth is totally impossible. Totally impossible.
                                      hope you have only been astrayed in a field that is not your speciality.

                                      Peace

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                                        FreedomStands
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                                        The darkest hour before the light

                                        A hidden tressure plain in sight

                                        For a moment standing still

                                        They say we're crazy, they say we're ill

                                        What they don't understand, they fear inside

                                        What they don't understand, they try to hide

                                        You can't hide from us! You can't

                                        I don't really care if the Earth is flat or not, why is it a big deal? I don't know if that was ever explained clearly.

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                                          noble
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                                          I don't really care if the Earth is flat or not, why is it a big deal? I don't know if that was ever explained clearly.

                                          Peace

                                          Brothers, I am not even sure or absolutely convinced that this whole Universe is Real, when Allah Himself tells me in the Quran on top that it is a mere illusion put together to test me if I believe or not.

                                          Further I spend a good solid 1/3 or more of my life sleeping, dreaming of stuff that on the whole makes little sense, and sometimes, because I suffer from a mental illness, a chemical imbalance the latest in Medicine say, I can't always realise which is true, what I dreamt or what I lived -)

                                          So, please...

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