Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Are you sure that a "telephoto lens" isn't actually taking a picture of some little speck on the lens or something? Are you sure in the development of such technologies they aren't some great deception being put up?
Peace bro,
Yes at the moment I am sure that what I was seeing with my naked eye is captured by the camera.
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Peace JL,
To me humans and jinns are two different creations because of 5156.
I suppose that verse is quite clear. If the Qur'an does not inform about the jinns, perhaps I'm very skeptical about that.
Thanks for the link, I will check it out.
You're welcome, please do.
Peace.
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I'm not sure if those people in the video are honest. I think among many stories/news about jinns, there could be fake stories, and there could be real stories.
It's not youtube video which made me likely to believe that jinns are creatures.
And also, I think it's not that easy to 'catch' the jinns. I think people who think that they can control/overpower (or take the advantage of) the jinn/s are actually being fooled by the jinn/s, except the righteous people who by Allah's permission can interact (or even team up) with them, like prophet Sulaiman.
Sorry my sister, but your current understanding of QA. is inherited from Sunnism!
Ie. subjectively acquired (from a false authority).I peacefully leave the choice on you, whether you regard jinn as creature or not.
I never said that are not creatures!
Again, in the Quran, and are epithets.
One class avoids notice/attention/disclosure ... The later strives for it.Genies don't exist ... Charlatans do.
Be sound.
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I think not all that said by sunnis is always wrong, my brother.
Such as,
if they said that Allah is the Creator - I agree,
if they said that Allah prohibits zina - I agree,
if they said that there will be afterlife - I agree.
However, it is not them (sunnis) who determine the understanding of the jinn for me.
ALLAH is my Teacher, and if HE guides me to the belief that jinns are not humans, then that's what I want to follow, inshaALLAH.
I never said that are not creatures!
Okay, I'm sorry,
I peacefully leave the choice on you, whether you regard jinn as human or not.
Peace.
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I think not all that said by sunnis is always wrong, my brother.
True, but they are wrong on this one (and on many maany maaaany more concepts...)!
if they said that Allah is the Creator - I agree,
if they said that Allah prohibits zina - I agree,
if they said that there will be afterlife - I agree.Such teachings (when understood correctly) don't belong to Sunnism, but to G-D!
Genies on the other hand are non-quranic conceptions!
Ie., man-made fiction! An ancient myth, adopted and promoted by mohammedans, to be precise.However, it is not them (sunnis) who determine the understanding of the jinn for me.
ALLAH is my Teacher, and if HE guides me to the belief that jinns are not humans, then that's what I want to follow, inshaALLAH.Prove it.
I peacefully leave the choice on you, whether you regard jinn as human or not.
You're entitled to your opinions, as I am, my sister.
Facts, however, are not opinions, but serve as evidence to support opinions.SLM
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If you have an enemy you cannot see, that has more capabilities from you from a position where he is invisible to you, can navigate at much higher speeds and through more mediums than you can, then you are already at a clear disadvantage, now if you add that you decide it doesn't also exist, you are asking to be manipulated without even you perceiving it, a very dangerous position to be in.
Now Allah says Angels through His Grace and Him Himself do protect against all evils, inclusive of the evils of the unseen, and that not putting oneself in this protection, through submission and allegiance to Allah makes one vulnerable, and this is what is happening in the world before us.
Bold Interesting.
But maybe, there are different capabilities among jinns too, just like on humans.
Peace.
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True, but they are wrong on this one (and on many maany maaaany more concepts...)!
Such teachings (when understood correctly) don't belong to Sunnism, but to G-D!
Genies on the other hand are non-quranic!
Ie., man-made fiction! ? An ancient myth, adopted and promoted by mohammedans, to be precise.Prove it.
You're entitled to your opinions, as I am, my sister.
Facts, however, are not opinions, but serve as evidence to support opinions.SLM
Jinns are humans made of fire before the humans?
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Verily We created man of potter's clay of black mud altered,
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You're confounding for
because you rely on Sunni translations ...Is it just because you haven't personally dealt with any of these creatures? I've dealt with something, but since Jinn don't exist we can call whatever I've dealt with clearly and photographed and documented something else that exists in this world.
So the world is flat but there are only humans, some jinn and some nas (I'm a jinn by the way, a ninja).
So Iblis was a jinn, a human created before Adam.
Can you help me out with the translation though?
I had to add the "So" before those sentences in case anyone thinks I'm making those claims.
Anyway, if anyone wants to meet some other thing that isn't a jinn, simply go to any forest with a heat vision camera (or with your eyes opened) and try to meet some, and bring some alcohol or something and you can make some not jinn friends that look like smoke or mist but are made of plasma.
Just remove the word Jinn from this and replace it with some other word
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607124.0
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So the world is flat ...
Not "the world"!
The ground, aka. terra firma.I'm a jinn by the way, a ninja
Good for you, naruto.
So Iblis was a jinn, a human created before Adam.
Nop!
Iblys was a malak,
it existed long before Adem ...Now, it's the root of all evil.
Zzzz
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Hello FreedomStands,
So Iblis was a jinn, a human created before Adam.
Nowhere does it mention Ibliss together with Jinn. Yet Ibless is misconceived and it is supposed to be used as a normal word in the context and not a proper noun.
Jinns are humans made of fire before the humans?
The word naar does not mean fire but it means light/heat/energy, and that is true. You probably know that the world is made of energy if you made your studies at school. Jinn is a very general expression for "the flesh" (lit. outer later), i.e. all cover of the world. So if 'nas' and 'jinn' are mentioned together it is because the language speaks of "spirit and flesh". Connect that in your mind and you see it logical that the "outer layer" of the world, that which you see, is made of naar, i.e. energy, but there is a world beyond that "flesh".
That Shaytaan is mentioned together with Jinn is because the word Shaytaan means "instinct" and "jinn" is usually used to connote on "worldliness". Following one's instincts is worldliness and the desire to indulge in this world. To follow Shaytaan is to basically indulge in the beastly ways of your body and not some fictional character called Shaytaan.
Be well bro'
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Good for you, naruto.
No!
Iblys was a malak,
it existed long before Adem ...Now, it's the root of all evil.
Zzzz
Iblis was a malak who was of the jinn meaning a hidden malak or what?
I guess now might be a nice time, if you feel up to it, to lay it all out, maybe your whole theology and everything so that we might correct ourselves thereby.
For mainstream Muslims, jinns are a creature that aren't angels or humans, though most of them don't really know what they are and might imagine silly things too.
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You're confounding with
because you rely on Sunni translations ...LOL!
is the plural of
Ibliss was not a Malak he was a Jinn in the Garden, close to God, until God decided to create Adam, then all hell broke loose (excuse the pun), and so all of Ibliss, Adam and Eve got cast out of the Garden.
Malak, singular for Malaika, is translated using Biblical terminology as Angels, Malaika are controllers (free-minds ijtihad).
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Dude, learn Arabic, don't rely on Farsi or Urdu, or whatever.
Plural of is
= a people (indefinite)
= the people (definite)This is a plurale tantum (Arabic ع.
Ie., it has no sing. form!That said,
denotes the corporeal.
denotes the incorporeal.Arabic does not obey same rules for plural names, as in other languages.
Believe me,
you have no f. idea what you're talking about!I suggest you go back and graduate kindergarten.
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= a people (indefinite)
= the people (definite)This is a plurale tantum (Arabic ).
Ie., it has no sing. form!That said,
denotes the corporeal.
denotes the incorporeal.Believe me,
you have no f. idea what you're talking about!I suggest you go back and graduate kindergarten.
OK, my Arabic is very rusty, and I didn't learn it the normal way through school, still learnt it from infancy as first language.
Jinns exist and are not Humans and that's all I have to say...
I have no time for your word games MoF and hicham9.