Time To Change Your Paradigm
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l-Qurn, Sreh 3640
CU Neither is the sun supposed to reach the moon, nor doth the night overtake the daylight, and each floats in a spindle?
? ie. a pivot, or fulcrum
N.b., the qurnic locution for "each in a spindle" is a palindrome K L P Y P L K ( ) ...
I see 7 graphemes, the median of which is a one-off! The rest are twains! -
How does a compass work then if the world is not spherical?
Be well
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Thanks @ hicham.
Although this diagram you have shown is a bit too primitive, it does give an idea. The moon and the sun are actually not in the same plane. The Sun is farther out (which explains eclipses) but I assure you that the sun is NOT 93 million miles from the Earth, and is NOT larger than the Earth, as they have deceived us into believing. The rabbit hole goes very, very deep, and at the end of it lies Satan, crouched in a fetus position.
Let any one of them come forward now, and show me where in the Quran does it say that
1- The Earth rotates around an axis
2- The Earth is egg shaped
3- The Earth revolves around the sunIt doesn't say that. What we are dealing with is a WAR against our percerption. They have declared WAR on our very senses. They not only want you to disbelieve 17 centuries of observation and empirical science, but to go as far as to disbelieve your own eyes, and to take their CGI, computer animations, and camera tricks as the truth. Yeah, let's film the Earth with a wide-angle bird's eye camera lens and then show the world that it's a sphere.
The Creator (whom they are seeking to mask) made this Earth fixed and firm for you, and put up two lamps, one for the night and one for the day, then covered the earth with an invisible firmament, and then challenged you to pierce it. They KNOW for a fact that it exists, because their rockets cannot breach it. So what do they do? They film rockets taking off, and almost always, the launch is by the sea. Ever wondered why they choose such locations for their pads? (Cap Canaveral, anyone?). Look at the fake Chinese space program, do your research, and see where they launch the rockets from. It's either from sea side, or deep in deserted areas, so no one can watch. So that no spectators can see the rocket going in an arch and then landing back on Earth. So no one can see them defy the Creator and fail at it (until now, I maintain, no human has gone to space).
WE HAVE A LIFT OFF!!
Enjoy the bullshit here
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=spSedU5qO7M (10 minutes)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvMlAqC4bm4 (4 minutes)
After the rocket falls back to earth (or the sea), they then transport you, through their trickery, to the outer space, where they stage fake shows (either in underwater tanks or on board airplanes doing areal tricks), and the astroNOTS are always laughing. You ever notice this? Look for videos of live chats with astroNOTS and you will see them always goofing off and playing with something, with big smiles on their faces. They are supposed to be in a very dangerous environment, potentially lethal, where even the minutest mistake can spell their end, and yet they are laughing. You want to know why? It's because they are laughing at us.
How a sane man in 21st century can think of a flat earth? I'm sorry if I hurt you with this comment.
No offence taken, I assure you. I am insane.
@ Seekingtruth1111
You should know, by now, that not all listed flights actually take off. The gentleman in the video showed you this. 90% of flight discrepencies, puzzles and anomalies (weird, unexplained delays) are encoutered in the southern part of the Earth, not to mention the fact that planes aren't tracked by GPS there.
It's not just the Pacific Ocean flights. But also in the Atlantic. A north Atlantic flight from New York to London is pretty straight foreward. Now try boarding a South Atlantic flight. As an example, take a trip from Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) to Johannesburg, South Africa, and see where the plane will take you (a stop in some meditteranean city is almost certain). You find passengers always wondering why that is so. Look at the flat earth map and see why it doesn't make sense.
http//maps.bpl.org/id/15442
Also, you should remember that a direct flight isn't necessarily a no-stop flight. The two concepts are not synonymous. From a legal perspective, an airplane going from point A to point C can stop at point B to refuel, or even to load / unload passengers, and still be considered a direct flight from the point of view of the passenger who stayed on it (because he / she is still in on board the same airline).
So, even if we assume that the Auckland-Santiago flight is not a phantom listing, and is indeed direct, it most probably stoped in Honolulu (which is where most southern flights from NZ stop) to refuel. Or maybe there's something else that they aren't telling us?
When you heard the news of those pacific Malaysian flights that mysteriiously disappeared from radars, didn't you find anything suspicious about this? Why would a plane take off, be visible for a while, then as soon as it reaches open water, it dissapears from tracking? Is there something they're hiding from us?
How difficult do you think it would be for these demonic entities and master liars to cover up true data regarding any airplane flight south of the equator? And why do we not encounter these anomalies in the northern part of the Earth?
There is plenty more stuff to come.
More important than the deception though, is the motive behind it. Why are they lying to us? What is their goal?
This video will give you some clues
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AKA6h7QZtw (50 minutes)
@ huruf
Here's another link for you 100 proofs the Earth is Flat (you will have to wait for the pages to load)
https//archive.org/stream/onehundredproofs00carp#page/12/mode/2up
To be continued...
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How does a compass work then if the world is not spherical?
Oh, you mean the compass that always points to the magnetic north?
Well, if the Earth truly is a magnet, then you should do some reserach on flat, disk magnets. Can you guess where the poles are on such magnets? The positive pole is in the center, and the negative is all around the edge.
The Earth is flat.
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So you mean the world is disc-shaped?
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So that thing about ships going across the whole ocean and coming back to where they started, and planes doing that too, isn't true?
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So that thing about ships going across the whole ocean and coming back to where they started, and planes doing that too, isn't true?
Yes. It's absoulutely true. And they do it on a flat circular plane. Just like in the model hicham9 posted.
Not around a sphere.
This short but effective video of 9 minutes shows us how the sun actually "sets" on our flat world. We are used to the word "sunset", because, due to the visual laws of perspective and the vanishing point of any object which moves away from us, we perceive that the sun is dissapearing or dipping beyond the horizon. But actually it's not. The timelapse shown in the first 3 minutes is spot on.
You can do the experiment using a flashlight over a large, flat surface, and slowly move the light away from you, while you fix your eyes on it. It also proves that the sun is nowhere near the size of the Earth! It's basically a lamp, that shines on a huge, flat surface.
The way they have deceived humanity is beyond belief.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_gM_NDMaDE
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Salam,
Q02115 - And to ALLAH belongs the East and the West. So wherever you turn, so there Eminence of ALLAH. Indeed, ALLAH is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
So there are only EAST & WEST. Nowhere in the Quran mention North and South?
Q1519
- And the earth We have lengthen; set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.
= madad = protract , reach , elongate , extend , draw out , lengthen, stretch out , spread out , sprawl , dilate , reach , range , unwind , outstretch , pervade.
The Earth is actually elongate / lengthen, meaning it is furthest from East to West.
Q2053
- The ONE who has, made for you the earth like a level; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.
= mahdan = (Noun) cradle or bed, (verb) flatten, smoothen, smooth, level, cement, grade, ram, plane, roll, flat, level off.
Q4310
- The ONE who has made for you the earth plane, and has made for you roads therein, in order that ye may find guidance;
= mahdan = (Noun) cradle.or bed, (verb) flatten , smoothen , smooth , level , cement , grade , ram , plane , roll , flat , level off
Q5007
- And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth.
= madad = protract , reach , elongate , extend , draw out , lengthen, stretch out , spread out , sprawl , dilate , reach , range , unwind , outstretch , pervade , lengthen
Q5148
- And We have spread out the earth How excellently We do flatten!
= farasha = provide with furniture , flatten , outspread , pervade , circulate , cement , grade , unwind , stretch , expand , flat , range , reach , ram , spread out , lengthen , sprawl , unfold , level off , roll out , level
from = flatten , smoothen , smooth , level , cement , grade , ram , plane , roll , flat , level off
Q7119
- And ALLAH has made the earth for you as a carpet,
= bisaatan = drugget , carpet , rug from the verb = outspread , flatten , flat , even , ram , grade , level off , outstretch , pave , level , smoothen , roll , cement
Qur'an 786
Have We not made the earth as a flat land,
= flat land , flat , plain , ramming
peace
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@ Seekingtruth1111
You should know, by now, that not all listed flights actually take off. The gentleman in the video showed you this. 90% of flight discrepencies, puzzles and anomalies (weird, unexplained delays) are encoutered in the southern part of the Earth, not to mention the fact that planes aren't tracked by GPS there.
Peace Pazuzu
The gentleman in the video is wrong. He is just guessing and he thinks that flight is fake. I know it because I have taken that flight to go to South America from Australia.
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I am sure that we are bein lied to enormously on most things. Still after reading some on the flat earth theory I am not convince and it does not seem to me to add up.
Also, my gut feeling, and I trust it because usually in my case it turn out right, also is with the approximately spherical shape of celestial bodies, which by the way is very harmonious. To me it fits with the wholeness of the Onness of God and the perfection of creation at all levels and also with many requisites of a physical order.
On the travel to the moon an all that I consider quite possibly that we have lied to big way, something which besides not surprising me, I do not think essentially it matters all that much. We are being lied in far more important matters. The moon travle finally was a game of prestige, nothing fundamental depended on it.
As to the Qur'ans description, I do not think it belies the more or less spherical shape of many celestial bodies.
And the flat earth refers to the earth as opposed to the water bodies or the gaseus bodies, but I do not think it refers to the earth as a celestial body.
That does not mean of course that we know or are close to knowing everything about those bodies or anything else. Every new knowledge throws its own unanswered questions which may be may require to rethink everything anew.
Salaam
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Also, apart from planes, ships have traveled on the Pacific since centuries and probably milennia from south America to Australia and New Zealand and the Islands in between like Pascua, which is the piece of earth farthest from any other piece of earth on the Earth. At that point they have measured their speed and the time and their latitude, and been able to calculate the time it took them to go from one point to another on a route. and they had the stars and other artifacts of navigation.
Another question is
How deep would the chunk of the planet be so as to contain the inner of the earth. How thick would the earth be and what would be the composition of it and what would its layers be. What would sustain or contain underneath the contents of that chunk so that they would not scape the earth. No "canopy" underneath"? ?Would there be no downside to the flat earth? Something must make up the down side, right?
Ice at the edges and also ice underneath? Would that be the "
basket" that would constitute the earth?Salaam
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Also, apart from planes, ships have traveled on the Pacific since centuries and probably milennia from south America to Australia and New Zealand and the Islands in between like Pascua, which is the piece of earth farthest from any other piece of earth on the Earth. At that point they have measured their speed and the time and their latitude, and been able to calculate the time it took them to go from one point to another on a route. and they had the stars and other artifacts of navigation.
Salaam
Even there are flights to antarctica for tourists.
http//www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
http//www.traveller.com.au/ice-work-if-you-can-get-it-2rj5xAnd you can even work there
http//www.antarctica.gov.au/jobs/jobs-in-antarctica
Anyways I thought initially this thread is a joke but seems Pazuzu is serious about it.
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Forget about scientific evidences in favor of sphere earth , because that does not matter to you flat earth believers.
Let's talk about conspiracies. Seems conspiracy theory is the driving force behind your belief.
1.You didn't sufficiently explain or tell what the conspirators will gain from this conspiracy.
2 To be successful any conspiracy should be hatched by and limited to few people. When any conspiracy needs large number of people for success , it is bound to fail. In this case all the aeroplane pilots , captains of all the ships of the world , all the mainstream scientists (not only the astronots) need to collude with NASA / Governments to maintain the perception of Spheric earth. Is it possible? Only an insane mind can think that it is possible.