Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Salaam brother,
How do you think a ball will shake/sway compare to disk?
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanUsually that is rendered mountains and then they talked about the pegs in the mountains that are actually deep into the crust of the Earth like roots which help keep them stabilized, that is what they usually mention as a "scientific miracle of the Qur'an". A disc swaying with weight? A disc floating in space but still having issues like swaying, with tiny people on top?
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Can all the flat earth people identify themselves?
Pazuzu, JavaLatte, mmkhan, who else? Hicham? Do you count yourself as one or leaning towards believing the Earth is flat?
I'd like to know all the users who believe in this or lean towards it. Perhaps if enough people lean towards it, the coin will flip.
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I always took that to mean if anyone can, it is only with the permission of Allah that they have achieved anything, even waking up in the morning. I also don't find that anyone has yet penetrated through the Earth, nor has escaped the Heavens (Universe). All that has been supposedly achieved so far is going very high up into the atmosphere and leaving the atmosphere, then there is a belt of high radiation, but any achievement, from sneezing to swimming, is achieved by Allah's permission and power, so that even if going past the layer of radiation at the borders of the known Universe is achieved, or probing through the crust of the Earth and out the other side, it would be achieved by Allah and Allah's power and permission. Without that, it isn't possible, and that is what I took that revelation to mean.
Peace,
I agree with what you said but...
Allah didn't use the word "izn" means permission in that aayat, but He said "sultaan" means authority.
Even the challenge is for jinns not only human. Jinns are those who used to visit sky and used to sit there 728 and 729. And the challenge is for them too.May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Maybe you guys can request a section actually, like they have one for the 19 crew, there can be a Flat Earth sub forum here maybe.
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Peace,
I agree with what you said but...
Allah didn't use the word "izn" means permission in that aayat, but He said "sultaan" means authority.
Even the challenge is for jinns not only human. Jinns are those who used to visit sky and used to sit there 728 and 729. And the challenge is for them too.May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanYeah, I don't think the jinn can go very far, I don't think anyone or any probe has gone very far even according to standard accounts, and nothing has reached the supposed radiation border at the end of the known Universe, and to penetrate that might be impossible, and to survive beyond it may also be impossible. Its said to be the thick and perhaps extremely hot radiation from the big bang as the Universe expands, making the Universe egg shaped. The Earth would thus be the only disc shaped item in the known Universe, unless the sun and the moon are also actually flat discs.
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Interpreting l-ara as exclusively planet earth is even from quranic point of view unsustainable.
See 575 => if you understand it as planet earth, it would imply the moon, saturn, any other planet are not Gods dominion.
God created all matter in this universe. Not only earth and the moon. Every planet, every star. Every molecule in this universe. Especially when Quran refers to the creation process of this earth, one should keep in mind earth was not always distinct from the other matter in this solar system. All this matter was spinning around the young sun before it started forming planets and other celestial objects as we know them today. These proto-planetary disks are from a cosmological point of view flat. In these flat disks, planets are formed.
Peace
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So how do you explain the curved shadow of the moon? Have you ever witnessed a lunar eclipse?
I have just discovered, ironically, that Eric Dubay explains the lunar phases, and how they work perfectly well in a flat earth model.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ZY0dvDLhw (5 minutes)
It strikes me that the moon is more mysterious even than the sun. Sometimes, I get the impression that it is a hologram, projected onto the Dome, wherein it reflects the light from the sun, to illuminate the night.
Here's another possibility (a convex lens made from the same material as the Dome)
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8PGe3pfh8 (5 minutes)
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Usually that is rendered mountains and then they talked about the pegs in the mountains that are actually deep into the crust of the Earth like roots which help keep them stabilized, that is what they usually mention as a "scientific miracle of the Qur'an". A disc swaying with weight? A disc floating in space but still having issues like swaying, with tiny people on top?
So brother do you think the disk is swaying only for tiny people on top?
Then will you please help me to understand this verse 1615? -
Look at this. Fastforward to the 3520 minute mark, and watch until 4400.
They are saying, very clearly, that there is something seriously strange and suspicious with all flight paths south of the equator, and how many passengers who fly from countries like Australia, Sout Africa, Argentina, etc... cannot seem to wrap their heads around the skewed flight paths.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qu37-A_S-I
Soon they will dscover that you cannot lie to the entire human race forever.
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So brother do you think the disk is swaying only for tiny people on top?
Then will you please help me to understand this verse 1615?1615
And He hath cast into the earth firm hills that it quake not with you, and streams and roads that ye may find a way.I did mention it earlier. Generally the mainstream interpretation is that it is saying the mountains are made firm, and then the "scientific miracle" people go further mentioning the pegs that mountains have which help to stabilize them.
Do you believe the planet Earth is flat?
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Look at this. Fastforward to the 3520 minute mark, and watch until 4400.
They are saying, very clearly, that there is something seriously strange and suspicious with all flight paths south of the equator, and how many passengers who fly from countries like Australia, Sout Africa, Argentina, etc... cannot seem to wrap their heads around the skewed flight paths.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qu37-A_S-I
Soon they will dscover that you cannot lie to the entire human race forever.
What would be their point in doing this? Generations of pilots, scientists, navigators, explorers, and whatever else are all liars? Who benefits from saying the Earth is round?
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http//www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/2ases2/why_are_flight_paths_curved/
Here is something, not sure if it is of any interest.
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Salam Pazuzu,
Today, i watched almost most of the videos you posted and went through the material.
First of all,
"-ment" means action hence government would mean the act of governing!
http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/-ment
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Secondly,What is wrong with the current scientific theories that the universe started with an event called "Big Bang" and that it is expanding; and there are mysterious forces/energies acting in the universe we don't yet fully understand?
We know that governments lie and shed blood; we know that they are criminals! But i think you are ascribing way too much authority and power to governments!
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Salam Pazuzu,
Today, i watched almost most of the videos you posted and went through the material.
First of all,
"-ment" means action hence government would mean the act of governing!
http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/-ment
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Secondly,What is wrong with the current scientific theories that the universe started with an event called "Big Bang" and that it is expanding; and there are mysterious forces/energies acting in the universe we don't yet fully understand?
We know that governments lie and shed blood; we know that they are criminals! But i think you are ascribing way too much authority and power to governments!
Thank you for posting here! If you ever want to discuss anything my email is [email protected]
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And He hath cast into the earth firm hills that it quake not with you, and streams and roads that ye may find a way.I did mention it earlier. Generally the mainstream interpretation is that it is saying the mountains are made firm, and then the "scientific miracle" people go further mentioning the pegs that mountains have which help to stabilize them.
Do you believe the planet Earth is flat?
Salam Brother,
I personally think the globe model of earth has been well Established when man stepped on moon for the first time.They got a visual of round earth for the first in human history. But it has been proved that moon landing is nothing but a Hollywood movie directed by Stunley Kubrick. There are so many things out there that does not satisfy me to believe in a globe model of earth. There is a relation between Illuminate,CERN,New World Order, reptilian shapeshifter,earth dome.You are a globe earthiest,right? So why do you think that the earth is more likely a globe?
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I agree that they never went to the moon! I agree that NASA manipulates the images and videos!
But what about the physics and chemistry? What about the mechanisms through which the sun releases its energy? What about the earthquakes? What about the deepest point on earth, the Mariana Trench?
Actually, there is a dome around the earth and that is a magnetic shield provided by earth's rotation!
and about the flights not taking the shortest path over Antarctica, it may be because in case the planes fail or crash they would have a hard time sending rescue forces to those cold, stormy regions so they take the safest routes!
I find it too hard to accept that all around the Flat Earth there are military forces preventing people from reaching the edge! How many forces and infantry would we need, considering the vastness of the earth?!
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peace Pazuzu, all,
This short but effective video of 9 minutes shows us how the sun actually "sets" on our flat world. We are used to the word "sunset", because, due to the visual laws of perspective and the vanishing point of any object which moves away from us, we perceive that the sun is dissapearing or dipping beyond the horizon. But actually it's not. The timelapse shown in the first 3 minutes is spot on.
You can do the experiment using a flashlight over a large, flat surface, and slowly move the light away from you, while you fix your eyes on it. It also proves that the sun is nowhere near the size of the Earth! It's basically a lamp, that shines on a huge, flat surface.
The way they have deceived humanity is beyond belief.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_gM_NDMaDE
Please answer the following
- what shape is the sun?
- does light travel in a straight line?
- by "vanishing point" do you mean the sun moves away from an observer VERTICALLY or HORIZONTALLY or something else? In other words, what motion does the sun have in your view?
- how do you explain regions such as iceland which experience months of permanently visible sun, and months of permanently non-visible sun?
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Peace All.
I cannot make out whether this is serious or a joke.
How can we prove the earth is whatever shape it is?
Do you think internet links can ever be a "proof"? Is this not what everyone is doing?
For example
http//www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae535.cfm
Have I proved to you the earth is spherical?
No?
Then I give up. By the way I have nothing to do with the "Illuminati"!!! What goes around comes around,perhaps it is round.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.
