Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Dear hicham9
Again, I am forced to say that these maps are deceptive. Let me explain why
Note how they have magnified a small section of the ice ring around the plane? This is NOT what it looks like. The outer rim of this world is a gigantic ice shelf that was described in detail by Admiral Byrd, when he sailed there in the 1930's. He described seeing an expanse of land that is the size of the USA. Those photos you are getting from the Flat Earth Society are not accurately portraying what the outer rim looks like. They are making it look too thin. It is much much wider, with icebergs floating everywhere, pockets of animal life, frozen lakes...all that exists. What Byrd did not tell the world (back then) was that on his return trip, in the 1950's, he sailed again with a huge military fleet. A few years later the UN decides to impose a worldwide treaty banning any exploration of the outer rim. Why? It's because they breached the wall at the end of the Earth, and found the dome that surrounds the planet. And they don't want people to know about it.
Here is my challenge to you Can you show me any evidence of a South Polar flight? What I mean by this is a flight that takes off from Australia, crosses Antarctica, and reaches South America? If you can do that, I will rest my case and congratulate you. The fact is you cannot. Even Wikipedia denies the existence of such flights.
Here is a quote from Wikipedia
Few airlines fly between cities having a great circle route over Antarctica. Direct flights between South Africa and New Zealand would overfly Antarctica, but no airline has scheduled such flights.
Yes, there are tourist flights that go to Antarctica. I am not denying the presence of this place. Ships sail there, people even go to do kayak and sightseeing. What I am trying to make you undertand is that Antarctica is basically a huge ice shelf which surrounds the Earth. It is not a continent that you can circle around or fly over. Why is it so difficult for you to grasp this?
The deeper reaches of this shelf are guarded by the military, and airplanes are turned away. The reason the maps hicham9 posted don't show this, is because they are innacurate in their portrayal of the rim. They are too primitive, eventhough they do give you a general idea of how the land masses are laid out in a flat plane
Forget about scientific evidences in favor of sphere earth , because that does not matter to you flat earth believers.
I am sorry, faruk. But there is no empirical evidence for a spherical Earth. There is only pseudo-scientific evidence.
I already explained to you the difference between empirical science and pseudo-science.
The demons who rule this Earth have not only managed to convince you, through their magic and trickey, that the Earth is a globe, but they have also claimed that the Sun is a gigantic ball, many times the size of the Earth, and located 92 million miles from the "planet". I can easily prove to you, using emperical evidence, that this is bullshit. You can even conduct a simple experiment in your own home, using a simple device, to see the truth for yourself, and expose their pseudo science.
Here are two short videos which explain how you can calculate the diameter of the sun, and how you can figure out its actual distance from the Earth
The first video features a mockery of the "scientific evidence" that you speak of. If you ask a NASA trickster about this issue, he will start jabbering a whole bunch of jargon about "you have to know the heliocentric dimensions of inter-molecular, sub-radial diffusion of the stellar paralax". You get it? Remember, that pseudo-science relies on one of the following
1- false evidence (bullshit)
2- fake evidence (magic)
3- convoluted evidence (jargon that will make your head spin).After exposing the mockery, the video shows you how, using a simple device (a sexton), and a basic mathematical equation, you can calculate the diameter of the sun.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw-5Ut7Xv7Q (6 minutes)
This second video teaches you the true way of calculating the distance between the Earth and the sun, using empirical science, as opposed to their pseudo-science fakery
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nIjrKe8QJ0 (9 minutes)
The conclusion is that the sun is about 60 kilometers in diameter, and 4,500 kilometers from the Earth. Shocking?
You can verify this with your own eyes, faruk. Simple, visual observation. Here is the video I linked in my first post on this thread, showing a hot air balloon, equiped with a camera, sent to survey the Earth form a very very high altitude (higher than airplanes go), in case you haven't seen it yet. Here's what you can do fast forward to 4 minutes, and then pause the video.
Look at the sun with your own eyes, and tell me if that looks to you like it's larger than the earth, or if it is 92 million miles away, as the magicians have been telling us.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzUgKZ8m2k
I don't know about you, but to me, it clearly looks like someone has messed up our perception of reality.
Dear huruf
Regarding your question about the thickness of the Earth, the depth of the ice rim, and the "divine signs" in the spherical formula, I will address this shortly. But for now, I would urge you to take a look at this outstanding 15 minute video, which sumarizes everything I have shown you until now.
I will be back in a few days and explain to you the difference between the paradigm they have imposed (spherical eart floating in space and revolving around the sun) and the truth of what the bio-dome we are living in really is, and how it is more miraculous and genious in its design than any spehrical model they can conceive of. All will be shown to you in time.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn0K4TOHLzg
Peace.
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Well,
It is conspiracy theories which have led people to believe in a god sitting on a throne deception and a distinctively separated entity rather than being in symbiosis with existence itself.
Be well
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This drawing below, as primitive and childish as it may seem (I am not much of an artist), is a cross-sectional diagram of what our Earth actually looks like. Hope this will help you get the picture
http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/LOLK_zpsob27wu6g.png
The point "P" marks the north pole, or the "magnetic north" as they call it, directly under Polaris (the North Star). It is a cold and icy region of course, due to the fact that the sun rays do not reach it as directly as other areas. To get a picture of this, look at the sun (it is actually higher than shown in the picture - but you get the idea). The letter "E" between the two lines marks the equator area. This is where parts of central Africa and South America lie. Nothing changes here. As you move outside of this region, the weather becomes more temperate, ntil you reach the North Polar region, which is the center of the Earth.
This also explains why those who are living in the south "hemisphere" (actually its semi-sphere to be more acurate), cannot see the North Star. So even on a flat plane, this law still holds.
What happens when you move further out? The sail ships of the old world tried this. They noticed that the weather becomes progressively colder, harsher, with more and more violent winds, larger and larger islands and icebergs, until finally (those that actually made it that far), they stumbled upon the Great Ice Wall. They thought that they had discovered a new continent, so they called it Antarctica. They tried circling around it, looking for a breach or opening, but found none. For months they tried, but to no avail. With their limited resources (no GPS system or radar) they could not really understand that they were circling the outer rim. Imagine what their perspective must have been like.
The region between the purple lines, where the letter "T" is, is the furthers that airplanes can go, in our modern age. Beyond that is the no-fly zone that was established by the Antarctic Treaty. Any lane that goes beyond that point is immediately picked up on the military radars, from stationed ice-breaker ships located near the foot of the wall. They will, of course, order the pilot to turn away, because he is tresspassing on a restricted zone. If he does not have a permit, or does not comply, they will shoot the plane down. Doesn't matter how many passengers there may be on it, because the Occult Rulers don't give a flying f*ck about anoyone or anything.
What happens when someone reaches the red "X" area? The Americans did, in the 1950's. They discovered the Dome that covers the Earth. This is the Firmament that is mentioned in the Bible and the Raised Ceiling the Quran speaks of, to which humanity has been blinded. What did they see beyond that point? God only knows. We can only presume that the ice sheet stretches on eternally, and ovefr it is a black sky of emptiness. Whatever it is they saw, they're never going to tell us.
Now we begin to understand the new paradigm of what our Earth really is, and where we stand in the grand scheme of things.
When the Quran speaks of the "heavens and the earth", we have to realize that the term "earth" does not mean a limited, globe planet. It is a flat, never ending plane, which was litterally split from the heavens above it.
We also realize the meaning of this miraculous creation. Who placed this Dome above us? For what purpose? The Occult Masters tried to breach it and failed, so they staged a spectacular theatrical play, to convince us that their rockets went past it, and then laughed at our stupidity.
As you can see, we are living inside a biodome. And the creator of this biodome, this pocket of life on a vast, never-ending plane of ice, put several obstacles, to make sure that we remain in the center, where we are supposed to be. If we try to go towards the edge, we run up against mountains of ice, violent winds, and unspeakable cold. If we try to dig, what would we find? Fire. Slowly, the heat increases, and becomes unbearable. The deepest hole ever made is 8 kilometers down. They reached a certain point where the digging equipment simply failed to go any further.
So what if we go up? Well, they have tried numerous times, and failed miserably.
We are trapped inside a gigantic biodome, made for us, and containing all that we need to live. And there does not exist any technology that can allow us to leave it.
The truth is stranger than fiction, isn't it?
Now let's try to ponder the implications of this paradigm, and what it all means.
Peace.
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Pazuzu,
It sure sounds absurd, but I have no way of either verifying it or refuting it, because I cannot make an empirical observation.
However, I would need to see it with my very own eyes to believe in this conspiracy theory. Fortunately it is irrelevant.
Heaven or refers to door/hole/opening rather than a phenomenon called Heaven, and this real "door" is very narrow. The reason why it came to refer to Heaven or sky is because above you is an opening where from there comes water (rain).
By your theory it means the world as we know it is disc-shaped and we move around a core (north hemisphere) and the sun is rotating around that axis with the moon following another axis?
However I find it strange that there were few expeditions to the south pole whereas the north pole has been visited many times. However I browsed this
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%27s_South_Pole_expedition
https//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1e/At_the_South_Pole%2C_December_1911.jpg/400px-At_the_South_Pole%2C_December_1911.jpg
Did this guy lie that he visited the south pole?
When you pass the south pole, your compass should immediately turn over to align the new direction to the magnetic north pole.
Be well
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It sure sounds absurd, but I have no way of either verifying it or refuting it, because I cannot make an empirical observation.
However, I would need to see it with my very own eyes to believe in this conspiracy theory.
You do have a way of verifying it. You do have a way of figuring out that they are lying to us, when they say that the curvature of the earth is 3963 miles per mile of tangent movement, and that the sun is 92 million miles away from us.
Source http//mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.97/dyck2.html
But is this really what we see with our own eyes?
Here is a group of people from Sweden, ordinary citizens like you and I, who tried the experiment in broad daylight
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KBpxyyaZk (4 minutes)
Look closely at what the camera is showing you. It is not a wide angle lens, or a fish-eye lens. It is a normal lens. What the camera sees is what you see with your own eyes. Do you see a curve anywhere? Why does the horizon remain flat, no matter how high the balloon goes? You have to realize that if the earth was curved, mathematically, the higher up in altitude you go, the more downward the horizon will roll away, until the entire planet becomes a dot.
But this is not what we see. The truth is that no matter how high we go, the horizon remains in its position, as far as the eye can see.
Does the sun look like it's 92 million miles away? Man, what is wrong with you? How much "empirecal" evidence do you need?
As for the photo, I do not condone teh use of Wikipedia to prove anything, unless I am quoting them on purpose to incriminate them from their own mouths. That photo could have been taken anywhere in the "T" region. Anyone can plant a flag in the snow, under a gloomy sky, in the wilderness, and claim that he's in Antarctica.
I would rather believe my own eyes.
Fortunately it is irrelevant.
That is where you are very wrong. But that's another subject altogether.
Peace, out.
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I guess Barry Fraser, 38, and his son Cameron, 12, are also part of the conspiracy
http//i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/05/article-2649692-1E7DAAFB00000578-121_634x475.jpg
Pictures of weather balloons all show a distinct curvature of the earth. This picture above was taken at 31 km altitude. This weather balloon used was built by amateurs.
Here's another one, built by enthousiasts
https//primarycomputingcurriculum.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/1.jpg
Peace
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Flat, or Round? Which Earth does the Qurn support, I wonder!
One of the reasons why I favor flat earth over than globe earth is because I think the Qur'an supports the flat earth.
Muslims who read the Qur'an should ponder why in the Qur'an, the earth is often paired (mentioned together) with the heavens, as if the earth is comparable (suits to be paired) with the heavens.
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God flattened the earth like this
https//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/HL_Tau_protoplanetary_disk.jpg/1024px-HL_Tau_protoplanetary_disk.jpg
This is a proto-planetary disk. Earth once went through a similar process.
Peace
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My friend Eric shared this interesting video. I think this is worth watching.
Light and Shadows Prove the Flat Earth https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbRIbIeKj7E
This is an interesting quote I read on that video,
The Yin Yang symbol beautifully shows the path of our Sun and Moon and where they illuminate over and around the flat Earth.
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The Creator, whose exitence the Occult Powers are trying to mask (these are the same shit-eaters who gave you the theory of evolution), . . .
That's very crucial point.
There are evil people who work together to mask the signs which indicate clearly the existence of God.
If the believers aware of this flat-earth truth, then, inshaAllah they could be aware that there is evil alliance who wants humans forsake/ignore the Creator.
People ought wonder "why?"
Wake up! Be aware of your enemies.
Do you support God? Or not?
I found the miserable reality that the people (who 'follow' the Qur'an) show dislike towards the flat earth, even though when they read the Qur'an - in front of their eyes - the Qur'an informs them about this. Whether they really believe the Qur'an?
Perhaps I could use my fingers to count the people who really trust the Qur'an in this day and age.
What if this is what I found in this forum?
Qur'an versus Hadiths => Winner Qur'an
Qur'an versus Pseudo-Science => Winner Pseudo-Science
God alone? Following the Qur'an?... think again...
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Eric Dubay (he's someone who supports flat earth and pretty active in spreading it) shared this information
The Flat Earth Society is a controlled opposition group that mixes truth with lies and satire to discredit genuine flat Earth research. No genuine flat Earther I know of actually believes the FES line of a constantly accelerating upwards Earth to account for gravity. Gravity does not need to be accounted for because it does not exist. They poison the well with these ideas and make the whole thing look foolish. Charles K. Johnson, the genuine flat Earther and president of the International Flat Earth Society (different from Leo Ferrari's FES) talked his whole life about how Ferrari's organization was controlled opposition to steer people away from the truth. Near the end of his life he was the victim of arson which burned his house and FE materials to the ground. This genuine IFES no longer exists and only Ferrari's satirical FES still exists.
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The sectarian version of interpretation that I have read says the Earth is round, but that is my observation.
As for what is true or not is of course interesting, but it is not relevant for salvation as detachment from worldliness and the body is the relevant part.
Be well
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Salaam,
To me it is like this
http//i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn39/trustedkhan/FlatEarthToMe_zpsgaicmdcb.png
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanYou believe in the flat Earth thing too?
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Salam, Javalatte.
Thank you very much for you kind support and contribution (until today, I didn't know the Indians had such a magnificent sundial).
The misinformants you speak of are very much alive and thriving on this website. They are everyowhere, and you find them on all forums. They think that the Flat Earth Society have a monopoly on the truth. It's like when you mention the Quran alone movement, they immediately say "Oh look! He must have gotten his beliefs from the Free Minds forum). So it's like the FM forum has a monopoly on the truth. Same old, same old. They like to label people.
You don't have to be a member of an online "society" to believe in a flat earth. Because this is the truth that humanity itslef will soon awaken to. And you don't need to be a follower of Eric Dubay to realize that there is indeed a conspiracy on mankind. I figured this out 10 years ago.
Furthermore, speaking of Mr. Dubay and his fantasies, I will say with confidence that I am not a member of the FES, and that there is no such thing as "gravity".
In school, they teach us the bullshit formula w = m x g, where "w" = weight, "m" = mass, and "g" = gravity. Remember this? And then, they tell us that schools are there to "educate us". Actually they are not so. They are there to condition and indoctrinate people to be obedient slaves in the matrix of teh false reality they have created.
There is a quote by a famous philosopher, who was self-tought, and never went to school. When they asked him if he would send his son to school, he replied "As long as it doesn;t interfere with his education". )
The actual formula is w = m. Done. Nothing more. An object falls because of its own mass and density as opposed to the air around it.
Simple as that. The "g" phantasy doesn't exist. Once you understand the paradigm of one flat and endless earth, you will know that there are no other "planets" with different gravities anywhere, and the magic show that NASA taped of men "bouncing" on the moon was all done in a studio, and there movements were slowed down on the tape.So, to Mr. Dubay, I say You don't have to invent a ridiculous fantasy that the earth RISES up to account for why objects fall. Get over it. Objects fall because of their own mass. There is no other downward force at work.
Now, I will prove to you, once and for all, that the Earth is flat, and this is especially for member runninglikezebras
The reason why you see a curve sometimes, is because of a woble in the camera that is used to make the video. In fact, I have seen wobbles, taken with certain kinds of lens, that make the horizon seem concave. Do you know what "concave" means?
Take a look at only the first three minutes of the following video. Watch what happens as the camera wobbles. Even when they are still standing on the ground (at ZERO altitude). Once you reach the three minute mark, stop, rewind, watch again, and try to pause at precisely the following moments
057 - you will see that, because of the wobble of the camera, the horizon appears to be concave (caved in the opposite!)
059 (that's 2 seconds later) - the horizon is convex (the one that supports your spherical earth delusion)
Keep on watching the wobbling, and see what happens to the horizon, until you reach the 240 mark, when the camera steadies itself. Your eyes will then see the truth that your brain continues to deny, because of the brainwashing you have been subjecte to ever since your school days.https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=R77j9rUuky4
The photos you posted were snapshots taken from a wobbling camera.
The Earth is flat. Game over.
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That's very crucial point.
There are evil people who work together to mask the signs which indicate clearly the existence of God.
If the believers aware of this flat-earth truth, then, inshaAllah they could be aware that there is evil alliance who wants humans forsake/ignore the Creator.
People ought wonder "why?"
Wake up! Be aware of your enemies.
Do you support God? Or not?
I found the miserable reality that the people (who 'follow' the Qur'an) show dislike towards the flat earth, even though when they read the Qur'an - in front of their eyes - the Qur'an informs them about this. Whether they really believe the Qur'an?
Perhaps I could use my fingers to count the people who really trust the Qur'an in this day and age.
What if this is what I found in this forum?
Qur'an versus Hadiths => Winner Qur'an
Qur'an versus Pseudo-Science => Winner Pseudo-Science
God alone? Following the Qur'an?... think again...
You guys don't believe in evolution? The Qur'an talks about things coming from the water, and then in the womb people are formed in stages. Many things occur in stages, that is how they grow and change, and cells divide and all kinds of stuff. Why is that a problem? What does it threaten?