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Time To Change Your Paradigm

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    FreedomStands
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    The Earth is flat. Game over.

    This isn't prolonged sarcasm or a joke or anything right? You're totally serious?

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      runninglikezebras
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      Just look at the curved shadow of the moon. A flat object does not cause curved shadows.

      Peace

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        JavaLatte
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        Salam, Javalatte.

        And you don't need to be a follower of Eric Dubay to realize that there is indeed a conspiracy on mankind. I figured this out 10 years ago.

        No, I'm not his follower.

        I consider him a friend, and perhaps a brother as well, because I like his support for the existence of God.

        And his writings helped me to understand certain things about the flat earth.

        Furthermore, speaking of Mr. Dubay and his fantasies, I will say with confidence that I am not a member of the FES, and that there is no such thing as "gravity".

        We have to clear this misunderstanding, brother.

        Eric Dubay also does not believe in gravity (he wrote Gravity does not need to be accounted for because it does not exist).

        I don't think Eric Dubay is a member of the FES, instead, he (Eric) warned his friends about the FES by informing us that the FES is a controlled opposition group.

        To my knowledge, Eric is not a muslim, but I do have respect for him.

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          runninglikezebras
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          A lot of loonies on this forum that's for sure.

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            unknownuser
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            @mmkhan.

            I advise you not to take anything you read in the diaries of Admiral Byrd for granted. The man was very obviously under the influence and duress of the military industrial complex, who very carefully filtered his speeches. If you look at the videos of the interviews he gave in the 1950's, you can easily tell, from the way he was talking, that he he was reluctant to reveal certain details regarding Antarctica. His facial expressions clearly showed he was not at ease.

            Nothing that comes from the Governments or their agencies can be trusted.

            As for your rendition, there is something wrong with it the bottom half is not all ice. There is fire under there, and we see it sprout from volcanic openings. The fact is, we don't know what lies underneath it.

            The sectarian version of interpretation that I have read says the Earth is round, but that is my observation.

            This is because of the hypocricy in their approach of the Quran. They boast that the Quran is validating the scientific discoveries, whereas the reality is that they resort to acrobatics in their interpretation, to make the Quran conform with Masonic pseudo-science. And when you show them the truth, as evidenced in the Quran, they accuse you of being a retard from the dark ages.

            You see how comical the situation is?

            This isn't prolonged sarcasm or a joke or anything right? You're totally serious?

            I understand how you feel, man. And I sympethise. It's not easy waking up and finding out everything you know is a lie.

            Peace.

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              unknownuser
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              We have to clear this misunderstanding, brother.

              Then, I appologize. It shows how little I know of the man. My mistake.

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                JavaLatte
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                Then, I appologize. It shows how little I know of the man. My mistake.

                There's nothing to apologize for. Let's continue this. I hope Allah grant us patience. )

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                  mmmm
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                  Pazuzu, I have to say that I am also very dissapointed in finding that people who accept Quran only are also very hard core STATISTS which is the biggest evil that is enslaving the world. In my opinion the purpose of the Quran is to free the mankind. But some here think that communism is a way to go - I litteraly cried over the ignorance of these people AND they read the Quran.
                  Anyone who thinks that way should go and research how many people were killed in the name of social justice and should repent to Allah for taking the side of the corrupters in this world. Research the anatomy of the state and then think about it in the light of the Quran.
                  It is all about that - the freedom vs. slevery (the ones who want to control - steal/tax, regulate, control, kill and avoid the consequences by having someone else do it for them)).
                  What one should do? I would like to find someone from the freedom standpoint try to tranlsate the Quran - not socialists who acctually translate word Allah as The State (but I gueass for them the state is god https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o3zDDuMzho
                  https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uVV2Dcqt0)

                  Peace.

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                    mmkhan
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                    You believe in the flat Earth thing too?

                    Salaam brother,

                    At the moment yes. Please note the aayaat I have quoted in my drawing and see what it says to you. Why do you think Allah says that "if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority." to all humans and jinns in 5533? Why this challenge if it is easy to out of the regions of earth? Please think about it.

                    And how do you understand 222? What is it saying about the earth?

                    May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                    mmKhan

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                      theAlchemist
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                      Salam

                      Does this verse has anything to do with a globe earth?

                      1615 He has cast into the earth stabilizers so that it does not sway with you, and rivers, and paths, perhaps you will be guided.

                      Or does this fit for flat earth?

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                        faruk
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                        A lot of loonies on this forum that's for sure.

                        Agreed. This thread is degrading this website....

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                          runninglikezebras
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                          So how do you explain the curved shadow of the moon? Have you ever witnessed a lunar eclipse?

                          I see nothing in 222 nor 5533 that suggests the earth is flat.

                          Peace

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                            mmkhan
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                            @mmkhan.

                            I advise you not to take anything you read in the diaries of Admiral Byrd for granted. The man was very obviously under the influence and duress of the military industrial complex, who very carefully filtered his speeches. If you look at the videos of the interviews he gave in the 1950's, you can easily tell, from the way he was talking, that he he was reluctant to reveal certain details regarding Antarctica. His facial expressions clearly showed he was not at ease.

                            Nothing that comes from the Governments or their agencies can be trusted.

                            As for your rendition, there is something wrong with it the bottom half is not all ice. There is fire under there, and we see it sprout from volcanic openings. The fact is, we don't know what lies underneath it.

                            Peace brother,

                            Thanks for your input. It was really hard to believe Amiral's diary.

                            About my rendition Hmm.. may be, but I also think that fire is under the land areas not under the water, but I might be totally wrong. I also wanted to show that the sky dome is only for our earth which was decorated with stars. And no body knows what is beyond that dome. Until Allah gave authority to someone to get out of the edges of earth and sky as said in 5533.

                            May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                            mmKhan

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                              mmkhan
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                              Salam

                              Does this verse has anything to do with a globe earth?

                              1615 He has cast into the earth stabilizers so that it does not sway with you, and rivers, and paths, perhaps you will be guided.

                              Or does this fit for flat earth?

                              Salaam brother,

                              How do you think a ball will shake/sway compare to disk?

                              May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                              mmKhan

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                                runninglikezebras
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                                When Quran speaks about flattening it speaks about how this solar system was formed. Matter spinning around a very young star like our sun once was. We can observe the formation of new planets in other star systems

                                https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMhuVwguN10

                                Peace

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                                  hicham9
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                                  Try Sreh 8820, ...

                                  Ar. () can denote flatness,
                                  e.g., adj. (&#1808 means flat.

                                  . . .

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                                    mmkhan
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                                    Agreed. This thread is degrading this website....

                                    Peace,

                                    Why go against anyone who are not of your belief?
                                    Everyone here follows what Allah guides them to, we are not judge for others.
                                    So please be humble. And if you don't like just don't post on this thread. Simple as that.

                                    May Allah bless you pr
                                    mmKhan

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                                      FreedomStands
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                                      Salaam brother,

                                      At the moment yes. Please note the aayaat I have quoted in my drawing and see what it says to you. Why do you think Allah says that "if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority." to all humans and jinns in 5533? Why this challenge if it is easy to out of the regions of earth? Please think about it.

                                      And how do you understand 222? What is it saying about the earth?

                                      May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                                      mmKhan

                                      I always took that to mean if anyone can, it is only with the permission of Allah that they have achieved anything, even waking up in the morning. I also don't find that anyone has yet penetrated through the Earth, nor has escaped the Heavens (Universe). All that has been supposedly achieved so far is going very high up into the atmosphere and leaving the atmosphere, then there is a belt of high radiation, but any achievement, from sneezing to swimming, is achieved by Allah's permission and power, so that even if going past the layer of radiation at the borders of the known Universe is achieved, or probing through the crust of the Earth and out the other side, it would be achieved by Allah and Allah's power and permission. Without that, it isn't possible, and that is what I took that revelation to mean.

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                                        mmkhan
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                                        So how do you explain the curved shadow of the moon? Have you ever witnessed a lunar eclipse?

                                        I see nothing in 222 nor 5533 that suggests the earth is flat.

                                        Peace

                                        Peace,

                                        Forget about flat earth, please share your understanding of both the aayaat. Thanks.

                                        May Allah bless you pr
                                        mmKhan

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                                          FreedomStands
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                                          Peace,

                                          Why go against anyone who are not of your belief?
                                          Everyone here follows what Allah guides them to, we are not judge for others.
                                          So please be humble. And if you don't like just don't post on this thread. Simple as that.

                                          May Allah bless you pr
                                          mmKhan

                                          It is true that everyone here and everywhere follows what Allah guides them to follow. God save us.

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