Praying: What have you gained from doing it?
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Reel and Ree,
Jafar does not consider Quran to be written with direct influence of the Sustainer but rather wise words at best, and he considers that adherence to religion is a fallacy. We have much in common ie and I, except I gave mercy to Quran and saw that behind a charade is a much more truthful interpretation which does sound fairly identical to what Jesus taught. Quran's mainstream interpretations misrepresent the Sustainer's nature utterly and the faith at whole.
Salaam Man of Faith,
So where are you getting your teachings of Jesus from (which you use to compare to the Quran)? If its the bible, then are you putting the bible through this much re-interpretation of the original Aramaic text to get to the truth or is your thesis on Gods words limited to the Quran? I ask this because you say that through your interpretation you've reached "behind the charade" and you like that view because, as per you, its closer to the teachings of Jesus. You would obviously then have to be certain on what Jesus actually taught.
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Hi OnlyOneGod,
I had suspected that the faith looked much like how Jesus teaches according to tradition. As for Quran I have not forced it to confirm anything but it did that on it own while I was sincere towards it. I do not need the Biblical Gospels to confirm anything, although Quran reveals a striking similarity with the spiritual teachings of Jesus. Sometimes the thought cross my mind that Jesus wrote it. But that sounds very farfetched, especially since the "modern" Arabic script was not invented until the 4th-5th centuries AD, the one in which Quran is written. Nevertheless, the writer of Quran was well aware of the way things work.
Obviously Jesus did not mean Son - Father as the sectarian Christians portray it. And he also said that anyone who do like him will be children of the Father.
None of the sectarians are right actually and you have to look into ancient Gnosticism to find a piece of the truth. Yet the official Gnosticism is dragging along with misconceptions as well. They are right that the world is mostly evil (or disadvantageous), but there is no "demiurge" as they call the fake creator god but the Sustainer created also the illusion we are in. There is only a Oneness in existence called Rabb in the Semitic languages. The world was created to be a trap to begin with. A sophisticated test. Those who fall for the temptation to be the animal they are in have fallen for their satan (instinct drive).
What is the purpose? The Sustainer is "refining" the perfect specimen and the few who actually pass the test will raise in rank. They are usually called Malekat (controllers/rulers/angels).
Where do I get all my words from? From the Sustainer.
Be well
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They are right that the world is mostly evil (or disadvantageous), but there is no "demiurge" as they call the fake creator god but the Sustainer created also the illusion we are in. There is only a Oneness in existence called Rabb in the Semitic languages.
Could you explain this thought process further, especially the part about there being no "demiurge" and there being only a oneness in existence. Would I be correct in interpreting it as pantheism? I ask this because I am a new member and am not aware of your beliefs about the "sustainer".
What is the purpose? The Sustainer is "refining" the perfect specimen and the few who actually pass the test will raise in rank. They are usually called Malekat (controllers/rulers/angels).
What is your philosophy on the reason that the creator has to go through such a test and trial to perfect an insignificant being as us humans? Do you believe that this sustainer himself / itself is perfect?
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Oh, looks like my response a while back didn't post properly. I had said in it that I was not making fun of you, "Religion of Chance" was me mocking myself, I was calling my religion "Religion of Chance" because I worship Chance, which the Gods of other people look to for help and answers.
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What is the purpose? The Sustainer is "refining" the perfect specimen and the few who actually pass the test will raise in rank. They are usually called Malekat (controllers/rulers/angels).
Where do I get all my words from? From the Sustainer.
You are a liar.
Stop spreading lies. The Creator is not unaware of what you do.
Be well
If you keep doing such evil, I don't think that you'll be "well" in the next life.
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It is better not to pray unless you are really aware what is good for you, as per my example.
No matter you pray or not the Sustainer knows what you need.
Nevertheless I ask the Sustainer from time to time for things such as knowledge. My ascension to knowledge, the knowledge you do your utmost to attack in the forum, is due to prayer.
Oh shoot, I think you just proved it then, prayer is a terrible idea!
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G-D does answer the supplicant's call.
To this, I positively attest.Praying to G-D is rational.
It's not a "waste of time" (as some wish to imply) ...
Withal, such an intuitive activity can never be limited by a "timetable" &c.!SLM
The formal Salat that the dumb old Muslims tend to do can be considered a regular daily meditation regimen for discipline among other things, Zoroastrian as it is, and the "dua" and praying and asking God for things can be done whenever you want. You're simply not allowed to do the Salat, you're banned. You'll imagine any number of reasons about it, but you're just not a slave like us, you're a free man who is not allowed to perform Salat. I hope you're using this time that you're not performing Salat (because you are not permitted), to rejoice!
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If you keep doing such evil, I don't think that you'll be "well" in the next life.
Maybe he will get exactly what he says though? A God who looks to Chance for answers, and no body whatsoever, deprived of all sensual "pleasures" and humanity, but hopefully not yearning for a body again in order to "feel". Considering himself ruler over hordes of ignorant apes who neither acknowledge him or listen to what has left the material world and has no presence among the bodily swarms.
Maybe he will come back only slightly to the material, to look at his bodily wife again, but is unable to hold her or touch her in any way.
Maybe God gives us what we want sometimes.
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You're simply not allowed to do the , you're banned. You'll imagine any number of reasons about it, but you're just not a slave like us, you're a free man who is not allowed to perform . I hope you're using this time that you're not performing (because you are not permitted), to rejoice!
Be my guest!
This irrational, superficial, ... nonquranic ritual you cling to, I left yrs ago.
For what its worth, I hold no regrets!
My reverence and gratitude be to my one and only Master.
In G-D alone I trust.
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Be my guest!
This irrational, superficial, nonquranic ritual you cling to, I left yrs ago.
For what its worth, I hold no regrets.
My reverence and gratitude be to my one and only Master.
In G-D alone I trust.
Man alone I distrust.I cling to it out of cowardice. I'm not brave like you. You're some sort of heroic figure, I'm just a n*ggerman.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIZboQw1zA
(If anyone wants me to explain, I can, its relevant, as always!)
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Javalatte,
I spread information and not lies. It is indeed a refining process and it looks like your current condition may not help you very much. You consider what I write to be lies, but Quran and history speaks against it. Consider if it is you who are living in a delusion.
Would you consider that the most advanced Being in the world void of any needs is affected by your superficial worship?
That perception is like believing in a man on the moon and that you worship a human king.
One must show that they are by actions and not mere talk. Talking is easy. When you have affinity with the Sustainer then you can say that you are near.
I have the right to be here and contribute to the discussion unless the moderators say otherwise. But if they do something you can always wonder if it is "Free-Minds" as long as I am behaving well.
Be sound
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Javalatte,
I spread information and not lies. It is indeed a refining process and it looks like your current condition may not help you very much. You consider what I write to be lies, but Quran and history speaks against it. Consider if it is you who are living in a delusion.
Would you consider that the most advanced Being in the world void of any needs is affected by your superficial worship?
That perception is like believing in a man on the moon and that you worship a human king.
One must show that they are by actions and not mere talk. Talking is easy. When you have affinity with the Sustainer then you can say that you are near.
I have the right to be here and contribute to the discussion unless the moderators say otherwise. But if they do something you can always wonder if it is "Free-Minds" as long as I am behaving well.
Be sound
I think you're fine here, I'm the one who has gotten in trouble a few times because sometimes people don't know what I'm up to.
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OnlyOneGod,
Yes. It is basically Pantheism.
The Sustainer is perfect and so would the spirit of man be too if they did not give in to the ape that they are attached to. That is why a man can be perfected if they "separate the spirit from the body" and this is the ulterior aim too and the real test purpose. You are not meant to have this body but you were put in it so that the seeds of the Sustainer (copies of the Sustainer) could grow in a hazardous environment (the body and the world) to see which seeds would make it into the same perfection as the Initiator. Probably even this is an ancient parable however and there are not literally any "seeds" but mere "Surge of the Wind" (meaning of ruh quds). Mostly everything is allegorical because it is incredibly hard for a human's intelligence to comprehend.
In fact you are a (sub)consciousness within a Consciousness. You and the Sustainer are not apart from each other, only that the distracting body puts a barrier so that you wander in delusion unless you can grow perceptive enough to see through the "charade" and ascend sufficiently that your consciousness can obliterate the (invisible) barrier and you stand with a direct link to your Sustainer without it having "interference".
Here the sectarian crowd believes that the salat ritual accomplishes this and worship, but the Sustainer has no need of such. Heavy contemplation, meditation and conformity can make the awareness come forth. Your aim is to master your own beast so you are not susceptible to the instinctive drive (shaytaan). When you are not affected as much by the animal you were attached to then you can begin to see clearly. This is why the "Ten Commandments" said no no about worship of images because it simply feeds from the instinctive drive.
Be well
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OnlyOneGod,
Yes. It is basically Pantheism.
The Sustainer is perfect and so would the spirit of man be too if they did not give in to the ape that they are attached to. That is why a man can be perfected if they "separate the spirit from the body" and this is the ulterior aim too and the real test purpose. You are not meant to have this body but you were put in it so that the seeds of the Sustainer (copies of the Sustainer) could grow in a hazardous environment (the body and the world) to see which seeds would make it into the same perfection as the Initiator. Probably even this is an ancient parable however and there are not literally any "seeds" but mere "Surge of the Wind" (meaning of ruh quds). Mostly everything is allegorical because it is incredibly hard for a human's intelligence to comprehend.
In fact you are a (sub)consciousness within a Consciousness. You and the Sustainer are not apart from each other, only that the distracting body puts a barrier so that you wander in delusion unless you can grow perceptive enough to see through the "charade" and ascend sufficiently that your consciousness can obliterate the (invisible) barrier and you stand with a direct link to your Sustainer without it having "interference".
Here the sectarian crowd believes that the salat ritual accomplishes this and worship, but the Sustainer has no need of such. Heavy contemplation, meditation and conformity can make the awareness come forth. Your aim is to master your own beast so you are not susceptible to the instinctive drive (shaytaan). When you are not affected as much by the animal you were attached to then you can begin to see clearly. This is why the "Ten Commandments" said no no about worship of images because it simply feeds from the instinctive drive.
Be well
Might actually be a bit more like "Polytheism" in this case, since Pantheism has a bit of a different meaning.
You've mentioned that people are "independent/autonomous/Free Will wielding" "copies" of the "Sustainer", so independent powers even if the powers are lesser is polytheism by definition, even more so in this case since these are all "copies" of God, so little Gods.
Pantheism is a bit different by definition, and Panentheism as well. This instead qualifies as Poly Theism, literally. If you were a polytheist of the lesser sort, then you would be saying something less obvious like "God is the only God but we all have power to influence God and power to do things on our own" which is what most people say, and the other version is "God is bound by other powers, like Love, Justice, Science, or whatever else" which is more abstract but still a less obvious form of polytheism.
Yours on the other hand is downright polytheism by definition, where you say humans are a special kind of creation that are "copies of the Sustainer" that wield "autonomous power, and are free from God" whereas God also is not determining either. So it is a whole bunch of little "copies" of God running independent, which is like how some ancient polytheists might have imagined things as God being the supreme power, then God creating little powers that argue or disobey or do whatever.
The polytheists of today are the Mormons, who claim they worship One God (Henotheism) but that there are many Gods, who are "God's children" which they mean in the most literal way possible "spirit children born from the Holy Father and Holy Mother" who are material beings, who had parents as well and were humans but "ascended".
You're not too far off from the Mormons, except they are more materialistic based, and you go into the "spirit" stuff more, but are still a full blown polytheist by definition.
This isn't meant to be insulting at all, it is just what you're saying, its a matter of fact. People can say "oh no I'm not a polytheist" but its what they are actually saying that is matching up with the definition of polytheism, far more than matching up with the definition of Pantheism and Panentheism, which has more polytheistic versions and more monotheistic Monist versions. You're not really much of a "Monist" though based on what you are saying because you make distinctions, which also make you a "Dualist" believing in a form of Dualism (which is common territory for Gnostics). Dualism or conflict between "spirit and flesh" for example in this case, and also somewhat perhaps between "Good and Evil" in whatever forms. Most people are "Dualists".
Your religious ideas are far more common these days, you would find lots of people who aren't involved with Islam to willingly agree that they are higher beings attached to their material bodies who can ascend and are ultimately "little gods". It is always what the Gnostics credit the "serpent" as teaching in the Garden as the "great truth".
In that sense you're also a Satanist, except the Laveyan type Satanists are all about the body, while the other type of Luciferian Gnostics are more about the whole ascension from the body thing, and I've dealt with them before (I don't believe you're consciously involved with any of those groups, are you?).
So basically you seem to say the following
God created the "program" a "contradiction" where lesser clones of God are made and placed into bodies which is the "contradiction" part and are meant to free themselves from the material somewhat.
They are free and God doesn't determine but Probability determines.
They are free so wield their own power to decide, which is what I call "Chance" deciding because "they can go this way or that way", which is the meaning of freedom and free will.
Their essential nature is being "little clones of God" basically and can, if ascended, alter reality and material things somewhat in the fashion of God, freely, independent of God's will or control.
So this is flat out polytheism, and what the Muslims might have called Shirk by their understanding of the word.
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Hi Freedomstands,
It is ultimately a mono-"theism" since you acknowledge that the Foundation/Sustainer is One. It is also the exclusive Oneness compared to the sectarian religions that differentiate between Maker and world which would actually make it dualism if one is strictly interpreting it.
You must also know there are a variety of sects who embrace "Pantheism", so the conceptualization vary. If it is polytheistic "Pantheism" it is more like Poly-Pantheism.
What you label those within the singularity (Pantheism) is up to them. Gods or not, but the Sustainer simply is the Sustainer. If there are gods then the Sustainer is yet always above them due to upholding existence itself or rather it IS existence. We have to remember it is humans who need language to have something to relate to. God is an artificial term. Allah means basically "Who is Being" and should incorporate everyone who acknowledges this fact, and they are not something else. Sustainer is the only word that could be compared to the English word "God" in its usage although descriptively Rabb/Sustainer is much better. Good/God is what people should become.
You've mentioned that people are "independent/autonomous/Free Will wielding" "copies" of the "Sustainer", so independent powers even if the powers are lesser is polytheism by definition, even more so in this case since these are all "copies" of God, so little Gods.
There may be a reason why people show have the affinity of Being (allah). Yet the Sustainer is the real "God" (determiner) of the universe. If referring to Foundation or Mainframe then there is only one. Using "God" as a synonym for Foundation/Sustainer then there surely is only one "God". The thing is that this Foundation incorporates everything, visible and invisible, matter and anti-matter.
Even time was invented for this test to allow an interim of testing. Time is only relevant when you have a series of subsequent events and we comprehend time in a specific manner, but to the Sustainer there is not really any difference between today and 2000 years ago. Only the matter is formed a bit differently with artificial creations such as cars, TVs, computers etc using the matter formed out of "pure wind" (ruh al-quds), same that has always been.
You have a false conception of my stance however. It is not polytheism just because people are their own consciousnesses because there is only one "God" (Sustainer). Humans are merely Beings within that Sustainer. But the Sustainer created independent thought/awareness. Those who break loose from the illusion think while being merged with the Sustainer but yet they are not the Sustainer but only under the same "umbrella". That is NOT polytheism but mono-pantheism.
Consider it like planets that revolve around a star. Those who keep in place without drifting away from its gravity are the successful.
We are self-aware, but not with full control. We cannot for example stop the heart (although I have heard that hardcore meditators have managed to slow down the heart), and the breathing is autonomous too.
God created the "program" a "contradiction" where lesser clones of God are made and placed into bodies which is the "contradiction" part and are meant to free themselves from the material somewhat.
Every "clone" is put into these bodies and they are merely a blank soul when being initiated. The cultivation is up to each gardener (controller). Those who let their plant succumb to the world this gardener has a relapse without their fruit being exchanged for their freedom since they have nothing which is worth anything and the cycle repeats itself. The plant is their body while the gardener is the soul. But the gardener has to be freed of delusion to be able to see the harm in all the thistles and the hostile environment. When the gardener removes all the thistles that steal all the nourishment then it can prosper. Same is true without metaphorical talk if you compare the thistles with satans, i.e. the temptations of instincts.
The aim is simply to have control. Be master of the beast. Compare that to a man and his dog. If the dog is not handled like the beast it is then it will begin to seek to master its owner or it will behave poorly. The issue with man is slightly more severe because the man is both beast and master in one. If one does not master the beast it will be deluded and do not know right from wrong and the beast dominates the master's consciousness/awareness. It is like some sort of schizophrenia.
freely, independent of God's will or control.
I never said that. Everything depends on the will or control of the Sustainer. It is only that the Sustainer is Merciful enough to let us be independent awarenesses. You have to understand what I mean when I say Sustainer which you seem to have failed with so far. The Sustainer is the backbone of existence, the platform or mainframe. Nothing can avoid it.
Like I said the Sustainer created an independent world that appears to run like a simulation, but the Sustainer can alter just bout anything
Be well
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Hi Freedomstands,
It is ultimately a mono-"theism" since you acknowledge that the Foundation/Sustainer is One. It is also the exclusive Oneness compared to the sectarian religions that differentiate between Maker and world which would actually make it dualism if one is strictly interpreting it.
You must also know there are a variety of sects who embrace "Pantheism", so the conceptualization vary. If it is polytheistic "Pantheism" it is more like Poly-Pantheism.
What you label those within the singularity (Pantheism) is up to them. Gods or not, but the Sustainer simply is the Sustainer. If there are gods then the Sustainer is yet always above them due to upholding existence itself or rather it IS existence. We have to remember it is humans who need language to have something to relate to. God is an artificial term. Allah means basically "Who is Being" and should incorporate everyone who acknowledges this fact, and they are not something else. Sustainer is the only word that could be compared to the English word "God" in its usage although descriptively Rabb/Sustainer is much better. Good/God is what people should become.
There may be a reason why people show have the affinity of Being (allah). Yet the Sustainer is the real "God" (determiner) of the universe. If referring to Foundation or Mainframe then there is only one. Using "God" as a synonym for Foundation/Sustainer then there surely is only one "God". The thing is that this Foundation incorporates everything, visible and invisible, matter and anti-matter.
Even time was invented for this test to allow an interim of testing. Time is only relevant when you have a series of subsequent events and we comprehend time in a specific manner, but to the Sustainer there is not really any difference between today and 2000 years ago. Only the matter is formed a bit differently with artificial creations such as cars, TVs, computers etc using the matter formed out of "pure wind" (ruh al-quds), same that has always been.
You have a false conception of my stance however. It is not polytheism just because people are their own consciousnesses because there is only one "God" (Sustainer). Humans are merely Beings within that Sustainer. But the Sustainer created independent thought/awareness. Those who break loose from the illusion think while being merged with the Sustainer but yet they are not the Sustainer but only under the same "umbrella". That is NOT polytheism but mono-pantheism.
Consider it like planets that revolve around a star. Those who keep in place without drifting away from its gravity are the successful.
We are self-aware, but not with full control. We cannot for example stop the heart (although I have heard that hardcore meditators have managed to slow down the heart), and the breathing is autonomous too.
Every "clone" is put into these bodies and they are merely a blank soul when being initiated. The cultivation is up to each gardener (controller). Those who let their plant succumb to the world this gardener has a relapse without their fruit being exchanged for their freedom since they have nothing which is worth anything and the cycle repeats itself. The plant is their body while the gardener is the soul. But the gardener has to be freed of delusion to be able to see the harm in all the thistles and the hostile environment. When the gardener removes all the thistles that steal all the nourishment then it can prosper. Same is true without metaphorical talk if you compare the thistles with satans, i.e. the temptations of instincts.
The aim is simply to have control. Be master of the beast. Compare that to a man and his dog. If the dog is not handled like the beast it is then it will begin to seek to master its owner or it will behave poorly. The issue with man is slightly more severe because the man is both beast and master in one. If one does not master the beast it will be deluded and do not know right from wrong and the beast dominates the master's consciousness/awareness. It is like some sort of schizophrenia.
I never said that. Everything depends on the will or control of the Sustainer. It is only that the Sustainer is Merciful enough to let us be independent awarenesses. You have to understand what I mean when I say Sustainer which you seem to have failed with so far. The Sustainer is the backbone of existence, the platform or mainframe. Nothing can avoid it.
Like I said the Sustainer created an independent world that appears to run like a simulation, but the Sustainer can alter just bout anything
Be well
"Can" but doesn't, and I have grasped your concept, as it is not difficult to grasp at all, so no worries in that regard, since I understand what you mean when you say Sustainer, but you might not understand what I mean when I say "control" or the "lack thereof".
"All within God" is Pan En Theism. "Everything is God (or A God)" is Pantheism. Monotheism is "There is only One God", Henotheism is "There is only One God we worship or who we consider greatest, yet there are other powers". Polytheism is "There are Many Gods" and generally they all had a "Greatest" that was the head of the Pantheon or an Originator while the others were representations of natural powers and concepts and also sometimes deified people.
So even though you're saying you're not polytheistic, when someone says "God created clones of himself who can control things too a little and God doesn't control their will and control them entirely" then you're basically saying Polytheism. Polytheism doesn't require all the powers to be equal at all, and usually had a Greatest God, and of course in your system there is only one "Mainframe", but that doesn't mean in the Polytheistic systems all the "powers" were identical or "all mainframes" but you say "clones" anyway, but I'm just pointing out that the Gods varied at times, what made them Gods though is they were not "mere mortals" which seems to be the point of what you're saying, that we can be powerful beings if we detach from the body and also have control over things. When someone says there is control or "free will", regardless of any contradictions they may make in their statements or not recognizing it, they are saying that there are other "powers" at work, and also that Chance is the supreme determiner, the Sustainer has left it to chance.
In Pantheism, there are two versions, one is more Monist, meaning "There is only One Thing" and "There is only God", thus "All things are God". This view eliminates "autonomous will" because all the "wills" are God's will, which is what I've been saying, and that doesn't mean it is necessarily a good thing or that all wills are good. You're not that sort of Pantheist, I am.
I'm also Panentheist, meaning "All is within God, there is nothing outside of God".
I am not the kind of Pantheist who says "everything is a God", that sort of Pantheism might be found in Shinto in how they talk about the Kami, and stems from Animism which is "Everything has a spirit". I'm somewhat of an animist, but not one to say anything is a God besides God, a God is basically a "power" or something that has some degree of "power" or "control". The ancient pagans were often Fatalists, meaning they believed that Fate determined everything, and for me Fate is just another word for God or Chance. I do not believe in a multitude of autonomous powers at work, only One Power working through everything, no other working power.
Of course if you re-define everything, then there is nothing I can do about that, but these are the standard understandings for these various terms.
So you may believe everything is "God material" though you might also not believe that since you object to the "beast" or you might believe that everything is within God but that doesn't mean a Pan EN theist or Pantheist can't also be a Polytheist, which is basically one to say "there are powers not controlled by God", and by control we mean "not directly willed and made to do stuff" but doing it somewhat "on their own" with "their own will", and this you've made clear is not your view, I'm the one who says God is the doer of everything, that there are no other powers whatsoever that can "do" or "decide" anything.
It is not meant to be an insult to say you're a polytheist based on what you say, it is just meant to be a factual clarification.
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"All within God" is Pan En Theism. "Everything is God (or A God)" is Pantheism. Monotheism is "There is only One God", Henotheism is "There is only One God we worship or who we consider greatest, yet there are other powers". Polytheism is "There are Many Gods" and generally they all had a "Greatest" that was the head of the Pantheon or an Originator while the others were representations of natural powers and concepts and also sometimes deified people.
I see little difference between Pantheism and Panentheism if we speak of those silly "theism" suffixes. The Sustainer simply is everything. The faith I mention is mono-pantheism or mono-panentheism if you insist. There is only one Sustainer and not two or more.
Everything within the Pantheism/Panentheism is depending with its abilities and functionality determined on what the Sustainer wills. If the Sustainer liked a game of probability to refine created souls then it is so. The purpose you have to ask the Sustainer for if you have any link to it. It does by no means at all make the Sustainer powerless or without control. If it was to be a doll-theater it could be so. Then we could as well live like Chimpanzees with no self-awareness and only as an animal. But the Sustainer caused man to have a self-awareness. To not think the Sustainer can create sub-awarenesses within its own awareness is to make the Sustainer weak in my opinion. People just have to realize this.
So even though you're saying you're not polytheistic, when someone says "God created clones of himself who can control things too a little and God doesn't control their will and control them entirely" then you're basically saying Polytheism.
No. People are what the Sustainer liked to create them as. Yet the Sustainer is the "deity" and it is thus "monotheism". Just because people have independent thought does not make them "deities". The all rely upon the Sustainer of the universe. The Sustainer is the Foundation of existence and it is only possible that a person shares the functionality of the Master, but they can never exceed that rank. Call it the hub of a network.
for me Fate
The fate you create yourself.
I'm also Panentheist, meaning "All is within God, there is nothing outside of God".
I am not the kind of Pantheist who says "everything is a God",
You are much for terminology? How does it matter? Pantheism does not say everything is A God. It is your misconception. It is everything is God, even if there are running independent awarenesses.
"there are powers not controlled by God"
There is a difference between controlled but let something to happen and controlled and cannot do anything about it. Realize that the Sustainer lets it happen even if it could be stopped. If the Sustainer willed everyone could have a voice screaming the exact guidance in their head and they knew everything clearly, but it was intended that man became deluded to let the right spirits grow forth.
that there are no other powers whatsoever that can "do" or "decide" anything.
And that I call a logical fallacy and that the game at play here is utterly redundant and is a disgrace to the Sustainer. It is like the Sustainer cannot create an "artificial" ultimate intelligence.
It is not meant to be an insult to say you're a polytheist based on what you say, it is just meant to be a factual clarification.
But I mentioned why my stance is not polytheism, but you can render a lot of things polytheism as a word of accusation if you twist it. Since the Sustainer is the determiner of everything, even if it has let independent creation seize relative control, the Sustainer is One Deity and thus monotheism. The action here right now right here is just a deception to lure forth the dishonest to make fools of themselves because they cannot see the truth in front of their very eyes. The people who are successful are called "Rulers/controllers", but they are not called Rabb. Even Solomon is called Malek in Quran. It does not ascribe divinity to a person.
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What Shaytaan, hawk99? Your sentence does not make any sense.
Peace Man of Faith, shaytayn would agree as you that one should not pray or fast.
Now its sustainer? What happened to Rabb? (rabbi) and "be that what it is" ;D
Umm, he claims to follow Quran only. But yeah, when I try to discuss some misinterpretations he usually says "oh this means we cant trust Quran".
I talked about many stuffs many times here. But now I am quite perplexed by that curse thing.The curse thing is fftopic
No matter you pray or not the Sustainer knows what you need.
True
I had suspected that the faith looked much like how Jesus teaches according to tradition.
So now tradition is okay? nope Try to be consistent.
God bless