hey you huys i just want to talk about my homosexuality
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Abdul-Hadi, whether you do not fear Allah?
Do you want to play verses of the Qur'an to defend homosexual act while it is clear that Allah does not approve it?
Even thread starter (kenybanez) does not deny that it is forbidden.
Kenybanez, I suggest you to be careful with the people who're trying to mask the truth.
May Allah protect you from evil, and please learn the truth from Allah, I believe that Allah is the Best Teacher.
Proof??
Do you even have reliable source to know the correct time/age when the people of Lot existed and where they actually located?
Mind you that I don't accept information from wikipedia or historical books as reliable proofs.
Since the brainwashers can even spread the silly lie that the earth is a globle, then it's very possible that those evil people could also falsify many other information.
Take notice of the punishment for the people of Noah, I think most likely there were children of the unbelievers who drowned as well, and I think verse 7127 could give a hint.
About the adult women who were destroyed, I think that is because they were among those who did not care to correct the wrongdoings committed by their people, maybe the wife of Lot could be the example.
For those who fond to defend homosexual acts & the perpetrators, remember these
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They used not to prevent one another from wrongdoing that they did. How wretched was that which they were doing.4109
Here you are - those who argue on their behalf in (this) worldly life - but who will argue with ALLAH for them on the Day of Judgment, or who will (then) be their defender?. Dear JavaLatte, I am the author of this question. As much as I am sad to admit it but acting on Homosexual desire is bad. I mean if it was okay why did Lot say "....Ye practice your lust in men, in preference to women" sorry if I do t know which surah. Notice he say "...in preference to women" meaning if what is forbidden is homosexual rape and it is only good when uou do it in a 'formal way' meaning do it through marriage, why did not Lot say " Ye practice your lust in men while you did not marry them. You should have marry then" or something in that context. If you guys are wondering what are my plans for myself well I am going to live a life of celibacy and perhaps if God willing I would just marry in Paradise ).
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Tell us more about your childhood.
Were there any homosexuals* around?
When did you first engage in such an act?
How did it all start?
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. Dear reader Girst off I was born and raised in the Philippines.when I was a kid I felt that I was incline to men. Ever since grade 4 I always have crushes but it towards boys and never did I have a girl crush except maybe this one time I did not see her in school Isaw her somewhere else but she has a boyish get up so she looked like a dude at that time so I dont think I would have considered that a heyerosexual attraction let alone bisexual attraction. In my life I have never had a boyfriend nor engage in Homosexual acts maybe perhaps when i first started HighSchool i acted verg effeminite and people knew I was gay and yes there were gay people at that time. But when I moved to canada on last day of september in 2009 I started acting a bit masculin out of fear of my parents because my parents were Christians and they do not approve of it and since I was in a whole new different country at that time I was scared due to culture shock so I still acted masculin. Anyways during those times I was not mislim yet. So anyways during the course of my time I began to be very active pf my religion lately and realy 'found Jesus' so I started thinking that perhaps homosexuality is a sin up until I became muslim through doing a lot of research first into christianity then one website to another somehow I was led to alot of islamic website that convince me Islam is right and so the rest is history.
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This lgbt movement seems to do everything it can to appropriate to itself symbols, words and imagery for themselves, then shove it wherever possible. Example, st patrick's day. It's for the irish. Yet homosexuals want to hijack this and self insert themselves in there, with their little multicolor flags, parading around with the "pride" thing. Why?
What's the point? Is the point just to try and be on the face of as many people as possible? This kind of behaviour turns more and more average, normal people, into what is called a "homophobe" - basically nowadays if you disagree with a homosexual in the west, you're "homophobic", whatever it means. There's a certain culture of throwing labels and dishonesty that's fermented from that lgbt political movement, and they do witch hunts against anyone who doesn't support them, going as far as to ask for money from people, on twitter, who don't actively support them. I saw this happen.Not only that also the fact that one in five homosexual in the USA has aids, the whole hypersexual culture that surrounds that group of people, with their naked pride parades, and their attempts to now convey this culture to kids.
Man fuck modern western values. They suck shit.
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. Dear JavaLatte, I am the author of this question. As much as I am sad to admit it but acting on Homosexual desire is bad. I mean if it was okay why did Lot say "....Ye practice your lust in men, in preference to women" sorry if I do t know which surah. Notice he say "...in preference to women" meaning if what is forbidden is homosexual rape and it is only good when uou do it in a 'formal way' meaning do it through marriage, why did not Lot say " Ye practice your lust in men while you did not marry them. You should have marry then" or something in that context. If you guys are wondering what are my plans for myself well I am going to live a life of celibacy and perhaps if God willing I would just marry in Paradise ).
Why do you prefer men to women, can you let us all know? Is there any sensible explanation you can make for it? What do you like about those homosexual acts, have you thought about it deeply what it might be? In some cases the people have been molested or had sexual experiences early on with a male figure which created an association with sexual sensations and whatever sex that person was and in other cases a sense of guilt and not really examining it can lead it to becoming a further obsession.
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Why do you prefer men to women, can you let us all know? Is there any sensible explanation you can make for it? What do you like about those homosexual acts, have you thought about it deeply what it might be? In some cases the people have been molested or had sexual experiences early on with a male figure which created an association with sexual sensations and whatever sex that person was and in other cases a sense of guilt and not really examining it can lead it to becoming a further obsession.
Like I said ever since I was young I have always been attracted to men and the reason why I found same sex acts quite appealing is the same way Hetero acts is appealing for heterosexuals. But like I said all this is for me is just mere desires that God created me with to test me. I mean I remember somewhere in the Quran God said that he created people with certain desires and successfull are those who supress it. Sorry I could quote it properly. And Btw I understand that that is why I have never commited this act meaning I have never had any sexual relations with same gender in my life and hopefully none in the future.
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okay so first off i believe engaging in homosexual acts is forbidden. So in case you are wondering i am not going to say it is okay to engage in such acts. However I am a homosexual myself and i admit, I am always attracted to the same gender ever since I was young but i do believe that this is just a test since i recalled somewhere in the quran that God said He created people with some desires and succesfull are those who supress it.
Anyways since I cant realy date a guy I just imagined one. But i dont mean it like an imahinary-friend-kind-of-way where you imagine someone sitting besides you and to talk to them like that .What i would do is basically just fantasize about going out with this guy-just like visualizing going out with this guy on my head and how he hugs me when i am sad or just cuddling with him every night. Basically all I am saying is I daydream about going out with this imaginary guy that i made.And I have have this weird fantasy of mine for like 3 months or so or perhaps longer to the extent that I become emotionally attached to the pigment of my imahination as if he was real.
I know it sounds funny and weird but that is just how I cope with it since if I cant have a guy in real life might as well imahine one and daydream about it. Anyways long story short- I am not realy sure if this is a bad thing or not, so i tried stop thinking about it. The problem is like Insaid I have become emotionaly attached to tuis daydream that I become so depressed just me stop thinking about it. It has got to a point where evrytime i listen to love songs I think about my imaginary Bf. And it depressed me because Iwant to stop thinking anout him. I even tell myself ' why would be depressed over someone who is a pigment of your imahination?" But i dont knownperhaps I am just lonely and I basically have no one to talk to I mean my relationship with my family is not that close and plus I cant talk to them about it since they are not muslims and probobly would disown me if they found out I converted let alone being gay. So yeah I also think this wild imahination is a product of loneliness. So what do you guys think about this besides the fact that this is crazy. You see I want to get over these toughts since I dont think it is Halal but It is so hard to let since i feel that this imaginary person is real and all the fantasies I made about me and him are like real memories as is the guy I imagined just live a house away or something...urgh I need some advice THANKSI personally DESPISE gays
Imagining male's arse made me throw up in disgust..
I cannot understand why there is such thing as "gay"..Having said that...
I understand that there are things in this universe that I just don't understand.
I accept that there are humans other than me, with sexual preference towards 'their own gender'.
It has been as such since the dawn of humanity.
More than that, the phenomenon also appears among other big primates (Gorilla, Orangutan, Chimpanzee) and other mammals.
It is a NATURALLY NORMAL phenomenon and it is one of GOD'S WILL.There is NOTHING WRONG with you and your homosexuality.
You are NOT immoral just because of your homosexuality.
You are NOT supposed to "Suppress" your homosexuality.
Be open with it and feel good with it, that's what you are, as willed by God.
I wish you good life and may you find your "same gender" soul mate and sex partner.Any "moral code" which is applicable to "heterosexual" also applicable to you, such as don't rape, don't kill, don't oppress other people etc.. Treat others in the same manner as you would like to be treated..
God bless you
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I personally DESPISE gays
Imagining male's arse made me throw up in disgust..
I cannot understand why there is such thing as "gay"..Having said that...
I understand that there are things in this universe that I just don't understand.
I accept that there are humans other than me, with sexual preference towards 'their own gender'.
It has been as such since the dawn of humanity.
More than that, the phenomenon also appears among other big primates (Gorilla, Orangutan, Chimpanzee) and other mammals.
It is a NATURALLY NORMAL phenomenon and it is one of GOD'S WILL.There is NOTHING WRONG with you and your homosexuality.
You are NOT immoral just because of your homosexuality.
You are NOT supposed to "Suppress" your homosexuality.
Be open with it and feel good with it, that's what you are, as willed by God.
I wish you good life and may you find your "same gender" soul mate and sex partner.Any "moral code" which is applicable to "heterosexual" also applicable to you, such as don't rape, don't kill, don't oppress other people etc.. Treat others in the same manner as you would like to be treated..
God bless you
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Hello, thanks for your response but even though I would like to agree with you, I just cant cuz as much as I am sad to admit it, God dis forbid gay marriages. I dont know where you get the idea that you can act on your homosexual desires. But in the Quran Lot told the people of Sodom that what they did was wrong by calling them eering people or something. So sorry to tell you this but gay marriage is just wrong even though as I would love to think otherwise. But hey it is not me who decide wether what is haram or halal. It is God who decides and apparantly for gay marriages...well it wrong.
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Hello, thanks for your response but even though I would like to agree with you, I just cant cuz as much as I am sad to admit it, God dis forbid gay marriages. I dont know where you get the idea that you can act on your homosexual desires. But in the Quran Lot told the people of Sodom that what they did was wrong by calling them eering people or something. So sorry to tell you this but gay marriage is just wrong even though as I would love to think otherwise. But hey it is not me who decide wether what is haram or halal. It is God who decides and apparantly for gay marriages...well it wrong.
Sure mate, believe whatever you want..
The Sodomist were robber, murderer and rapist.
They deserved to be wiped off from the face of the earth, for the sake of their neighboring society.
Even if all of them were heterosexual...And what is "Gay Marriage"?
If the couple are gay or lesbian they don't need any marriage..
As they shall not have any offspring.. biologically..
Marriage is a heterosexual social invention being imported into homosexual world by the homosexual.. -
2929 states the reasons why the people fo Lot were destroyed (rejecting God and his messenger, highway robbery, assault, and drunkenness)
All these crimes, with the exception of homosexuality, have been condemned directly by God.
The only proof we have that homosexuality is sin is from the story of Lot.
For some reason, God felt the need to clarify that highway robbery is a sin in the Quran, but not homosexuality. If homosexuality was a sin, it would then be below drunkenness and stealing.So I am skeptical of the claim that homosexuality is forbidden. When heterosexuals are encouraged to try new positions ("approach your tilth as however ye may", homosexuals are condemned to a life time of sexual repression? I doubt it.
Besides, I think God would have destroyed Sodom even if the angel rape was heterosexual angel rape.
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i always prefer to look at precedents and empirical research, studies and observations about the real life, tangible proof, tested and proved theories
let's look at what happens in the USA with the whole lgbt thing and homosexuals
folsom street
one in five contaminated by HIVthere is aid everything there needs to be known
you can be homosexual or not, the type of lifestyle associated with homosexuality in the west is completely forbidden by the quran
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i always prefer to look at precedents and empirical research, studies and observations about the real life, tangible proof, tested and proved theories
let's look at what happens in the USA with the whole lgbt thing and homosexuals
folsom street
one in five contaminated by HIVthere is aid everything there needs to be known
you can be homosexual or not, the type of lifestyle associated with homosexuality in the west is completely forbidden by the quran
hey is it okay if you would reply on this post?http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607983.0
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