Calendar Reform
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I was banned from the forum for a long time, but thanks God I am still here to continue preaching unity and truth.Webster?s college dictionary
Cycle a period of time within which a round or regularly recurring events or phenomena is completed; set of events occurring in the same sequence.A lunar month is a cycle of moon phases, but also a set of twelve months is a lunar year cycle.
936 BEHOLD, the number of months, in the sight of God, is twelve months, in God's decree on the day when He created the heavens and the earth; out of these, four are sacred this is the ever-true law . Do not, then, sin against yourselves with regard to these .And fight against those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God, all together - just as they fight against you, all together - and know that God is with those who are conscious of Him.The 13 lunar month is an invention of those who followed a lunisolar calendar, and wanted some religious rituals to be celebrated in a more or less fixed season every year, and only God knows why.
937 The intercalation is but one more instance of refusal to acknowledge the truth- by which those who are bent on denying the truth are led astray. They declare this to be permissible in one year and forbidden in year, in order to conform to the number of months which God has hallowed and thus they make allowable what God has forbidden. Goodly seems unto them the evil of their own doings, since God does not grace with His guidance people who refuse to acknowledge the truth.May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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Shahr in 936
is not a lunar cycle
but a full moon.The proof is that the number of full moons in one solar year is sometimes 13 like in 2015
Please ref to http//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74If shahr in 936 stood for a lunar cycle (which lasts 29.5 days)
13 times 29.5 days would make 384.5 days and that would never fit in the 365-day solar year because 384.5 days are 19 days too many,
but 13 full moons does fit in it because those 19 days are placed in the previous and follwing years.In 2015
the first full moon is on Jan 5, so 10 days of the first half of the cycle are placed in 2014
the last full moon is on Dec 25, so 9 days of the second half of the cycle are in 201610 days are in 2014 ......................................... 9 days in 2016
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o ......... o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o10 + 09 = 19
384 - 19 = 365The correct translation of
can be like this
Indeed, the number of the full moons with Allah is twelve full moons.
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Peace
The correct translation of
can be like this
Indeed, the number of the full moons with Allah is twelve full moons.
I see that many people is just to deep in love with their sun-god to listen.
12 lunar months/full moons/shahars, or wathever you want to call them, are a year.
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I haven't looked into this calendar matter at all, but I just wanted to make a spontaneous comment
The 13 lunar month is an invention of those who followed a lunisolar calendar, and wanted some religious rituals to be celebrated in a more or less fixed season every year, and only God knows why.
937 The intercalation is but one more instance of refusal to acknowledge the truth- by which those who are bent on denying the truth are led astray. They declare this to be permissible in one year and forbidden in year, in order to conform to the number of months which God has hallowed and thus they make allowable what God has forbidden. Goodly seems unto them the evil of their own doings, since God does not grace with His guidance people who refuse to acknowledge the truth.Perhaps I'm just an ignorant fool, but what makes the structure of the calendar sucha touchy topic that words like 'forbidden', 'evil' and 'refusal' are used?
Is inserting a 13th month (if that's what it really says) such a crime in the bigger picture? We have murder, rape and, lo and behold, insertion of a 13th month.
I'm not being sarcastic. I'm just having difficulties grasping the severety of deviating from the prescribed calendar... and even why there must be a certain calendar to start with. Yes, it's good to have a calendar that is in sync with nature, but I don't think having an odd calendar is worse than e.g. environmental pollution or exploiting weaker groups pf people.
Just my spontaneous thought on the topic.
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I see that many people is just to deep in love with their sun-god to listen.
12 lunar months/full moons/shahars, or wathever you want to call them, are a year.
In 936
God is saying "The (iddat) number of shohoor is twelve shahrs"
God is not saying "One year is twelve shahrs."If he said "One year is twelve shahrs"
he would be unable to answer this questionAccording to that year system you mention, what season was Muhammad born?
Neither would he be able to anwser
this questionWhat particular part of the year system is the hunting restriction mentioned in the Quran as follows?
O you who believe, God will test you with some of the game for hunting coming within reach of your hands and your spears... (594)
O you who believe, do not kill any game while you are restricted... (595)Remember that God is able to do anything he wants
but still he is unable to answer these questions.The decrepancy is caused by the lie that in 936 God is saying "Twelve shahrs are a year."
No. Twelve shahrs are NOT a year but a series of shohoor, in other words, they are the wholeness of the series.
If you decrease the number to, say, eleven, the wholenes disappears, the concept of time, seasons disappears.If you do that, your your sin of rejecting God's order doubles (at-Taubah 37)
which is the very sin the people have committed in making up the pure lunar year. -
IDDAT
= duration
= number
= seriesIDDAT ASH-SHOHOOR
= duration of shohoor
= number of shohoor
= series of shohoorThe duration of shohoor is one solar year because it is the moon?s rotating (with the earth) around the sun which causes the shohoor.
So the moon?s 12 or 13 rotations take the same time as the earth?s one rotation takes around the sun, 365 days.The number of shohoor is 12,
which is the minimum because 11 shohoor can not fill in the solar year.
However, there ise a 13th shahr, which God has decided to appear just as he has decided the sun to come from the east (225,
So the 13th shahr is God?s truth, it cannot be denied.The 13th shahr prevents the shohoor from coming 11 days earlier every (solar) year
and thus fixes them each at a particular time of the solar year and causes them to have the sense of time
such as the seasons.The series of shohoor is a complete set,
which is made up of 12 or 13 shahr,
like a necklace of 12 or 13 gold pieces.God forbids you from breaking up the set of shohoor
by postponig the 13th shahr over to the next set of shohoor,
which is called NASY (ُ in 937.The length of the series of shohoor changes
as it lasts
354 days when it has 12 shahr,
383.5 days when it has 13 shahr.So
iddat ash-shohoor (series of shohoor)
with its changing length,
is not a year.Length of a year never changes.
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Sets of shohoor are not solar years
but they are in sinch with them and thus help you know the number of years (105)He is the One who made the sun to emit light, and the moon to reflect it, and He measured its phases so that you would know the number of the years and the count...
Take year 2001 as the starting point
and save one gold coin by dropping one in your money box each time you see the ful moon, say, after the summer solstice.
The number of passing years is the number of gold coins you save.http//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2001&country=74
1, July 05
2, June 25
3, July 13
4, July 02
5, June 22
...Please note
that
2 is 11 days earlier than the former,
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4 is 11 days earlier,
5 is 11 days earlierbut
3 is 19 days LATER than 2
because 2 has 13 shahr01 June 25, 2002
02 July 24
03 Aug 23
04 Sept 21
05 Oct 21
06 Nov 20
07 Dec 19
08 Jan 18, 2003
09 Feb 17
10 March 18
11 Apr 16
12 May 16
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Peace brook
Sets of shohoor are not solar years
Of course not, they are year, which has to be Lunar.
...and He measured its phases so that you would know the number of the years
Is clear from here that a year is related to Phases of moon, for the sun has no phases.
God is saying "The number of shohoor is twelve shahrs"
clear that a year cycle is twelve lunar cycles. Or will you say that there are twelve shohoors in a month, a decade, or a century, or a milenia.
Can you tell me , since the number of months has to be 12, how do I know when a solar month begins, and when a solar month ends, so that I can know when I complete 12 and the beginning of the next year? you should know this since you are too deep in love with the sun. Also can you show evidence of where do you get that the word year is exclusively to be applied to an earth cycle around the Sun, or seasons?
I have a pure tropical solar calendar( meaning based on solstices and equinoxes) that I made alongside my lunar calendar so that I can know the beginning and end of seasons, in order to know when to plant my seasonal gardens. I am willing to share it with whoever wish to follow a true solar calendar. But I know that many of those arguing here for a solar calendar will hate it too, for it will be useless for their western way of life. Because, behind all this arguments against a lunar calendar is the deep dependence on the Pagan western Gregorian calendar. But I understand you, for I also made a Lunar-Gregorian calendar for all my dealings with the pagan people, so that I can translate their dates to my lunar calendar and know when I have to meet with them. Many will say, why all this trouble, when you can simply follow the pagan calendar. But, I have to count the passing of time based on a calendar allowed by God, either solar or lunar, but not by the Pagan Gregorian calendar.
May God increase our knowledge.
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Peace wrkmmn.
brook Sets of shohoor are not solar years.
wrkmmn Of course not, they are year, which has to be lunar.No, they are sets.
They are not year.They are not solar year,
they are not lunisolar year,
they are not lunar year.They are not ANY year.
They are each a set (AAiddat),
AAiddat alshshuhoor ( ِIf you take AAIDDAT here to mean number,
it is 13 in some years like in 2015 (http//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74),
and 12 in some others like in 2016 (http//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2016&country=74).This is God's truth, which you can prove for yourself
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Dates of the first full moon (shahru ramadan) after the summer solstice
2011... 2012?. 2013?.. 2014?. 2015?. 2016?
15 July 03 July 23 June 12 July 02 July 20 JulyWhy does 6 come 19 days LATER than 5?
Because 5 has 13 full moons01?02 July 2015
02?31 July
03?29 Aug
04?28 Sep
05?27 Oct
06?26 Nov
07?25 Dec
08?24 Jan 2016
09?22 Feb
10?23 March
11?22 Apr
12?22 May
13?20 JunePlease YOU check to see
why 4 comes
19 days LATER than 3.This may help you see
why EVERY shahru ramadan of the so-called lunar year comes 11 days earlier
and what is wrong with that .