Ma means mother in Quran?

huwa

That is because I researched that in aramaic (where arabic evolved from) 'ama', 'ma' etc.. equals mother! That's because in 2255 and various oher verses... in arabic does not make sense if the verse says 'ma' as 'what'.

Also in sanskrit mother is translated as 'Alla'. Strange phenomenon.

hicham9

The equivalent of QA m () in Syriac is mh.

The noun for mother )] is em.

QA. n. spelled m means water, or liquid = Syr. my.

Welcome aboard !

huwa

Check this out to have more understanding

http//abbeynous.blogspot.co.uk/2007/04/in-aramaic.html

hicham9

Check this out to have more understanding
http//abbeynous.blogspot.co.uk/2007/04/in-aramaic.html

ALLH transcends that which you're trying to impute unto His Absolutness.

Your father () andor mother (&#1600 are mortal Adamites.
Our Father (with a capital F) is Adem, not G-D !

The Divine neither begets, nor adopts sons/daughters.

Know thy place.

huwa

ALLH transcends that which you're trying to impute unto His Absolutness.

Your father () andor mother (&#1600 are mortal Adamites.
Our Father (with a capital F) is Adem, not G-D !

The Divine neither begets, nor adopts sons/daughters.

Know thy place.

I was talking about how 'ma' equals mother. Not my words but the qurans words.

Anyway what's up with the blocking me on the forum.

I thought this is a forum of Free minds?

hicham9

I was talking about how 'ma' equals mother.

Again, pron. m (), the equivalent of Syr. mh, doesn't mean "mother" in the Qurn !

Not my words but the qurans words.

Wishful thinking.

Man_of_Faith

Hello,

does not mean mother. You have to add an alif to make it mother which morphologically means "Be From", i.e. . The other suggestion means 'no' in Arabic as the following alif after miim negates the miim. and you have your root word for mother and another definition is 'source' which goes well with my morphological explanation of "Be From".

"Ummah" comes from the same root and speaks of your originating people, for example, in your tribe, relatives, and it can probably be not only literally implied too.

Wellness to you
Amenuel

Bender

That is because I researched that in aramaic (where arabic evolved from) 'ama', 'ma' etc.. equals mother! That's because in 2255 and various oher verses... in arabic does not make sense if the verse says 'ma' as 'what'.

Also in sanskrit mother is translated as 'Alla'. Strange phenomenon.

Hi welcome to the forum handshake

So you think means "mother in the heaven and mother in the earth"?
If so, can you explain how this makes more sense to you?

huwa

Hi welcome to the forum handshake

So you think means "mother in the heaven and mother in the earth"?
If so, can you explain how this makes more sense to you?

For example in the beginning of verse 2284 it says . In translation that will be (literally) "Allah what in heavens and what in earth...." That does not make sense if 'ma' means 'what'. But since the majority of the world languages use 'ma' as mother. I simply translated the beginning of the verse as "Allah mother in heavens and mother in earth....". This does not mean Allah has a partner, as Mary also did not have a partner when conceiving Jesus (pbuh). Also it could be a spiritual aspect of God. And not physical. As some things in the Quran has metphorical meanings. Allah knows best ofcourse

Bender

For example in the beginning of verse 2284 it says . In translation that will be (literally) "Allah what in heavens and what in earth...." That does not make sense if 'ma' means 'what'.

Hi,

the red word is read like this Li-Llah
I think the "Li" means something like "to".
Thus something like this "To Allah belongs what is in samaa and what is in ard"

But since the majority of the world languages use 'ma' as mother. I simply translated the beginning of the verse as "Allah mother in heavens and mother in earth....". This does not mean Allah has a partner, as Mary also did not have a partner when conceiving Jesus (pbuh). Also it could be a spiritual aspect of God. And not physical. As some things in the Quran has metphorical meanings. Allah knows best ofcourse

Blue Interesting. Do you think Allah can be spiritual and physical?

huwa

Hi,

the red word is read like this Li-Llah
I think the "Li" means something like "to".
Thus something like this "To Allah belongs what is in samaa and what is in ard"
Blue Interesting. Do you think Allah can be spiritual and physical?

So you reckon "Li" means "to" and "Lah" means God, right?

Explain 1068 .

I think Allah could have physical and spiritual attributes. I mean there's nothing that I have read of the Quran to suggest otherwise.

Bender

So you reckon "Li" means "to" and "Lah" means God, right?

Explain 1068 .

Hi,

I think the red word is also a comibination of 2 expressions. La-Hu
I think it means something like To Him...

I think Allah could have physical and spiritual attributes. I mean there's nothing that I have read of the Quran to suggest otherwise.

Can you give an example from the quran where you understood that He has physical attributes and an example where He has spiritual attributes?

huwa

Hi,

I think the red word is also a comibination of 2 expressions. La-Hu
I think it means something like To Him...
Can you give an example from the quran where you understood that He has physical attributes and an example where He has spiritual attributes?

That's the point, I don' t know of any verse if Allah is just physical or spiritual. It's just my opinion that Allah can be both. But I do know that (according to a hadith that is sahih bukahri) that a womb has a physical connection to Allah.

Sahih Bukhari, Book 65, Hadith 4879
" . . . . ". { }
The Prophet (&#65018 said, "Allah created His creation, and when He was done with it, the womb, got up and caught hold of the Merciful's loin (or loincloth?) Allah said, "What is the matter?' On that, it said, 'I seek refuge with you from those who sever the ties of Kith and kin.' On that Allah said, 'Will you be satisfied if I bestow My favors on him who keeps your ties, and withhold My favors from him who severs your ties?' On that it said, 'Yes, O my Lord!' Then Allah said, 'That is for you.' " Abu Huraira added If you wish, you can recite "Would you then if you were given the authority. do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. (47. 22)

Allah knows best!

Bender

That's the point, I don' t know of any verse if Allah is just physical or spiritual. It's just my opinion that Allah can be both. But I do know that (according to a hadith that is sahih bukahri) that a womb has a physical connection to Allah.

Sahih Bukhari, Book 65, Hadith 4879
" . . . . ". { }
The Prophet (&#65018 said, "Allah created His creation, and when He was done with it, the womb, got up and caught hold of the Merciful's loin (or loincloth?) Allah said, "What is the matter?' On that, it said, 'I seek refuge with you from those who sever the ties of Kith and kin.' On that Allah said, 'Will you be satisfied if I bestow My favors on him who keeps your ties, and withhold My favors from him who severs your ties?' On that it said, 'Yes, O my Lord!' Then Allah said, 'That is for you.' " Abu Huraira added If you wish, you can recite "Would you then if you were given the authority. do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. (47. 22)

Allah knows best!

Hi,

Ok thank you for clarification.
I think Allah has no physical or spiritual "attributes", sounds weird to me.

huwa

Hi,

Ok thank you for clarification.
I think Allah has no physical or spiritual "attributes", sounds weird to me.

Yeh, I'm not very educated. Just researching the Quran through the internet. That's why I have some writing problems. Sorry!

Bender

Yeh, I'm not very educated. Just researching the Quran through the internet. That's why I have some writing problems. Sorry!

I am also not very educated, but I think that is not important.
I think it's more important and more wise to keep on researching then to be very educated and stay still.
Or maybe I am just saying this to comfort myself

huwa

I am also not very educated, but I think that is not important.
I think it's more important and more wise to keep on researching then to be very educated and stay still.
Or maybe I am just saying this to comfort myself

Well I hope your research goes well. And please do inform of anything that is enlightening of this religion. Cheers peace

Noon_waalqalami

For example in the beginning of verse 2284 it says . In translation that will be (literally) "Allah what in heavens and what in earth...." That does not make sense if 'ma' means 'what'. But since the majority of the world languages use 'ma' as mother. I simply translated the beginning of the verse as "Allah mother in heavens and mother in earth...."

Peace, use cross-reference ...

2284 to god what in the heavens and what in the earth and if disclose ye of what in yourselves or conceal ye it shall call to account you in it the god so shall forgive to whom wills and punishes whom wills and the god upon each thing supreme

3129 and to god what in the heavens and what in the earth forgives to whom wills and punishes whom wills and the god forgiver merciful

4171 O individuals the book not commit excess dual in creed yours and not thou say ye of on/about the god except the truth only the messiah Isa son Maryam messenger the god and word his conveyed it to Maryam and spirit from it so believe ye of in the god and messengers his and not thou say ye of trio that cease ye of best of for you only the god deity one majesty his that being to him offspring to him what in the heavens and what in the earth and sufficient in the god agent of

141 alif lam ra book have descended we it to you that thou bring out the humankind from the darkness to the light by permission lord theirs to path the mighty the praiseworthy 142 the god the one to him what in the heavens and what in the earth and woe to the skeptics from punishment severe

587 did not see that the god knows what in the heavens and what in the earth not it being from secret counsel trio except he fourth theirs and not quintet except he sixth theirs and not lowest from such and not more except he with them where what be they of furthermore shall inform them in what did they of day the resurrection surely the god in every thing knower

huruf

Concerning the relationship between the wombs and God, bear in mind inthe Qur'an

4.1.

O mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, His mate, and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women;- reverence (ittaqw) Allah, about whom you ask, and the wombs for Allah ever watches over you. (1)

And bear in mind the Arabic word raHim (womb) plural arHam

The word raHim is constituted from the same root as raHma (mercy) and as raHmaan and raHiim, the names of Good which come at the begining of every sura (except one) in the Qur'an and that in the text itself come up all the time.

So without any need for "maa" being made into anything other than the known meaning, there is a manifest connection between God and the wombs.

To wit, this time in 4.1. where God asks us to "ittaqw" Him and "al arham" is the only one in the whole of the Qur'an where the Qur'an says to "ittaqw" something else with Him.

We should bear in mind those things because they speak very deeply to our identity and to our destiny of return to Him.

Salaam

hicham9