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    lostINtheWORLD
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    Hi to all;

    I was Islamophobe and I used to hate Allah.

    Now, I'm considering his existence. In part due to the Harun Yahya's mathematical miracles. I'm considering, thus, the possibility of his veracity. However, I'm still hesitating.

    I grasp, for the first time, the possibility of the divinity.

    But, as I said, I'm not 100% convinced. I do not want call myself hypocrite, but it seems to be what I'm.

    I fear Hell; if God/Allah exist, I think I'm destined to.

    Because in the Qur'an God says

    "O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah , His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray" http//quran.com/4/136

    I can't believe ~even if I want~, firmly or not, in every of the articles of faith.

    Have God sealed my heart? I'm destined to the Hell?

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      Peace lostINtheWORLD.

      Read on these words ,then keep reflecting and best of luck with your decision

      And serve/worship your Lord, in order to attain certainty.

      This is the truth from your Lord; do not harbor any doubts.

      If you have any doubt regarding what is revealed to you from your Lord, then ask those who read the previous scripture. Indeed, the truth has come to you from your Lord. Do not be with the doubters.

      Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than God's for those who have attained certainty?

      You cannot guide the ones you love. God is the only One who guides in accordance with His will, and in accordance with His knowledge of those who deserve the guidance.

      We showed Abraham the marvels of the heavens and the earth, and blessed him with certainty.

      ..., we granted Abraham his guidance and understanding, for we were fully aware of him.

      We granted Solomon the correct understanding, though we endowed both of them ( him and David) with wisdom and knowledge.

      We created the human being to work hard (to redeem himself).*

      We thus explain the revelations, to enable the people to redeem themselves.*

      And remind, for the reminder benefits the believers.
      I did not create the jinns and the humans except to serve/ worship Me alone.
      I need no provisions from them, nor do I need them to feed Me.
      God is the Provider, the Possessor of all power, the Supreme.

      Mu'meneens (believers) are those who believe in God and His messenger, then attain the status of having no doubt whatsoever, and strive with their money and their lives in the cause of God. These are the truthful ones.

      Those who are blessed with knowledge will recognize the truth from your Lord, then believe in it, and their hearts will readily accept it. Most assuredly, God guides the believers in the right path.

      God strengthens those who believe with the proven word, in this life and in the Hereafter. And God sends the transgressors astray. Everything is in accordance with God's will.

      By the Lord of the heaven and the earth, this is as true as the fact that you speak.

      I swear by the positions of the stars.
      This is an oath, if you only knew, that is awesome.
      This is an honorable Quran.
      In a protected book.
      None can grasp it except the sincere.

      I swear by the Day of Resurrection.
      And I swear by the blaming soul.
      Does the human being think that we will not reconstruct his bones?
      Yes indeed; we are able to reconstruct his finger tip.
      But the human being tends to believe only what he sees in front of him.
      He doubts the Day of Resurrection!

      By the earth that cracks (to grow plants).
      This is a serious narration.
      Not to be taken lightly.

      Only those who repent, believe, and lead a righteous life will enter Paradise, without the least injustice.

      Anyone who commits evil, or wrongs his soul, then implores God for forgiveness, will find God Forgiving, Most Merciful.

      Oh and I almost forgot this
      ..... Your Lord has decreed that mercy is His attribute. Thus, anyone among you who commits a transgression out of ignorance, and repents thereafter and reforms, then He is Forgiving, Most Merciful."
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        lostINtheWORLD
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        Thanks for your reply, but you haven't really answered my question...

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          Bender
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          Hi to all;

          I was Islamophobe and I used to hate Allah.

          Now, I'm considering his existence. In part due to the Harun Yahya's mathematical miracles. I'm considering, thus, the possibility of his veracity. However, I'm still hesitating.

          Hi welcome to the forum handshake

          So Harun Yahya's mathematical miracles made you believe in His existence.
          I am very curious about these miracles. They must be bigger then the universe

          Just joking, but I hope you will get my point.

          Did you murder someone or a similar act? If not then you should not be afraid, He is Merciful.

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            lostINtheWORLD
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            Hi welcome to the forum handshake

            So Harun Yahya's mathematical miracles made you believe in His existence.
            I am very curious about this miracles. They must be bigger then the universe

            Just joking, but I hope you will get my point.

            Did you murder someone or a similar act? If not then you should not be afraid, He is Merciful.

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            About Harun Yahya's miracles

            a) http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_11.html The letters that comprise the word ?petrol? appear side by side in only one verse of the Qur?an (659)
            b) http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_14.html The letters that constitute the word television appear side by side, from left to right (2717)
            c) http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_04.html The term DNA appears in 1865, the date when the science of genetics began
            d)http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_06.html In 4825 the letters comprising the words Fe (iron) and hemoglobin miraculously appear side by side.

            I not murder anyone, but I fear even so, because I not believe in Angels

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              Comrox
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              Peace lostINtheWORLD,

              First of all, love your username. ❤ sun And welcome to the forum.

              Can you describe what you believe, if you feel comfortable sharing? You don't have to try to make your beliefs try to fit into any religion, just state them here.

              If you are just now coming to learn and understand about God, if you have sincere intentions and a sincere heart, then no, I don't think you are going to hell. But it is really not my place to judge at all, as only God knows what it is in our hearts and only He is capable of judging us.

              I encourage you to study, think, reflect, use your reasoning, and ask questions. If there's a particular topic that you are struggling with, feel free to ask it here (use the search button to see if your question has already been asked before you make a new thread).

              Relax, breathe, and do your research. Whatever you decide, I hope you make the decision that makes the most sense to you.

              Peace again. sun

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                good_logic
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                Peace lostINtheWORLD.

                Are these your questions?Quote

                Have God sealed my heart? I'm destined to the Hell?

                Then no one can answer them for you. GOD knows your innermost thoughts. GOD Alone has your answers.

                If you believe in Qoran ,study it ,it has your answers.

                I only posted verses from Qoran to encourage you..

                May the Lord help you and support you if you are sincerely seeking Him.

                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

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                  NielsJacob
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                  Peace lostINtheWORLD

                  I fear Hell; if God/Allah exist, I think I'm destined to.

                  Because in the Qur'an God says

                  "O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah , His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray" http//quran.com/4/136

                  I can't believe ~even if I want~, firmly or not, in every of the articles of faith.

                  Have God sealed my heart? I'm destined to the Hell?

                  But if you fear Hell you dont have so much else to fear..

                  If that fear is real. Im pretty sure God allready directing you the right way.

                  That Hell thing can be the hardest thing to accept. The other faith thing should?t be that hard. Or for me they are the way to accept or fear Hell.
                  So if you are already there I think you have it..

                  Anyway only God can give you the faith.. And then you have the choice to follow it if you want

                  76/29This is a reminder, so let whoever wills take a path to his Lord.30 And you cannot will unless God wills. God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

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                    Have God sealed my heart? I'm destined to the Hell?

                    RED no its not Allah who sealed your heart its you who sealed with disbelief. becoz having faith in something is totally up to choice of ones heart/mind.

                    usually people think its Allah who sealed heart eyes ears, but if u carefully understand these verses these are people who are stubborn and dnt want to accept the truth but obviously they already know its truth , example of firoon and the one who debate with abraham regarding God , these type of people Allah is addressing becoz they just dnt want to submit.and in the making of decision of anything regarding faith its totally up to a person what choice he take in the life.

                    GREEN no it will depend on your choice

                    the power of decision is in your hand and you will get the results accoring to your decision.if u decided to beilve in Allah and the day of judgement angels and messengers and do rightieos deeds ,then u dnt need to worry. thats it . y riskinng our life in one single chance of gamble ,
                    if you believe ,it will not gona give u loss of anything like money kids finance , so why should we take risk of not beleiving in God ,on the other hand if we believe in him life will get relaxed and here after is definate . think about it for a while , if u beleive u will not gona lose anything , but if u disbeleive and if things are true regarding here after then see where u will gona stand at that ocassion.

                    so play gamble in safe mode ,and life is a big gamble with only one chance.

                    i try to explain u according to my weak understanding. hope so it will help , but i m also posting some verses of the book it will help u ila inshallah.

                    4150 And when We let him taste a mercy from Us after adversity had
                    touched him, he will say ?This was by my actions, and I do not
                    think that the Hour will come to pass. And even if I am returned
                    to my Lord, I will find at Him good things for me.? Surely, We
                    will inform the rejecters of all they had done, and We will let
                    them taste the severe retribution.
                    4151 And when We bless man, he withdraws and turns away, and when
                    he suffers any adversity, then he implores at length!

                    7536 Did man think that he will be left neglected?
                    7537 Was he not a seed from sperm put forth?
                    7538 Then he was an embryo, so he was created and developed.
                    7539 Then He made from it the pair, the male and the female.
                    7540 Is One as such then not able to resurrect the dead?

                    7720 Did We not create you from a fragile water,
                    7721 Then We made it in a place of protection,
                    7722 Until a time that is predetermined?
                    7723 So We measured, and We are the best to measure.

                    761 Was there not a time in the past when man was nothing to even be
                    mentioned?
                    762 We have created man from a mixed seed; We test him, so We made
                    him hear and see.
                    763 We have guided him to the path, either to be thankful or to reject.

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      So Harun Yahya's mathematical miracles made you believe in His existence.
                      I am very curious about these miracles. They must be bigger then the universe

                      Just joking, but I hope you will get my point.

                      lol
                      peace brothers,

                      and whats about the the one who created this universe , think about it, and Allah didnt even tired after perfecting the universe. how biggggggg is the universe ?answer is still expanding every single year since then uncle hubble introduce telescope to see the vastness of this master piece of creation what we call universe.

                      think about the one who created it, now have a look at one verse

                      439 And if you asked them ?Who has created the heavens and the
                      earth?? They will say ?They were created by the One who is the
                      Noble, the Knowledgeable.?

                      todays scientist are discussing the design of universe and they said its all perfect and there must be one very highly intelligent being who is responsible of this massive creation, i think this ayat refers to these type of people

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                        God is not a psychopath, what have you done to deserve eternal Hellfire?

                        Have you murdered, tortured or raped people? Can you honestly believe in a God who is so "offended" by human beings not "believing" in His existance, that He will torture you in an eternal Hellfire for that? I don't believe in such a God. If such a God really exists, we are all screwed as nobody would be safe from such an injust, immoral and evil God... nobody could trust Him or count on anything He says.

                        Does it really make sense to you that God will burn billions of Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Shintoists and others in Hell because they were born and raised in the "wrong" cultures and countries? If God is going to do that, to Hell with God...

                        The God I believe in is totally different.. I'm not afraid of God, I'm afraid of doing bad things to His creation - humans, animals and nature - that God wouldn't approve of. Just be a good person, be just, be humane and peaceful, think about it, what else could God want from you?

                        Harun Yahya is a liar and deceiver, don't ever read or watch anything of his works anymore.

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                          Good, Recluse, good.

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                            Recluse
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                            Good, Recluse, good.

                            Is it?

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                              Man_of_Faith
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                              Your input was.

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                                Recluse
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                                Well, thanks.. it's simple logic really, it's not rocket science.

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                                  good_logic
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                                  Peace Recluse.

                                  You are right in that if

                                  1-You believe in GOD Alone.
                                  2- You do good.
                                  3-you believe you are accountable for your deeds.

                                  You have nothing to fear.
                                  It does not say you have to believe in scriptures or messengers or have a religion etc..That is a minimum requirement and as far as GOD is concerned you will be fine.

                                  For those who want to get closer to GOD and accept His scriptures and messengers... and devote their lives to GOD Alone , GOD calls them "My servants". They choose that path to be appreciative and serve/worship...their Lord. It is their choice .

                                  Brother, you do not have to believe anything your logic dictates.
                                  However, I find that your understanding of what GOD is saying is confused with what people/scholars /others are saying.
                                  GOD bless you.
                                  Peace.

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                                    Recluse
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                                    Have God sealed my heart

                                    If God "seals someone's heart" to throw them into Hell He is definitely evil.

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                                      lostINtheWORLD
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                                      Peace lostINtheWORLD,

                                      First of all, love your username. ❤ sun And welcome to the forum.

                                      Thanks for your support.

                                      My nickname is fun, but behind this there are hopelessness -\

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                                        lostINtheWORLD
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                                        Peace lostINtheWORLD
                                        But if you fear Hell you dont have so much else to fear.. )

                                        If that fear is real. Im pretty sure God allready directing you the right way.

                                        That Hell thing can be the hardest thing to accept. The other faith thing should?t be that hard. Or for me they are the way to accept or fear Hell.
                                        So if you are already there I think you have it..

                                        Anyway only God can give you the faith.. And then you have the choice to follow it if you want

                                        76/29This is a reminder, so let whoever wills take a path to his Lord.30 And you cannot will unless God wills. God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

                                        The problem is that I'm not sure if I really fear the Hell...

                                        However, the existence of Paradise, Angels, Jugdement Day, stick changed into snake,... There are fact that I suspect be true, but with my heart I'm not still 100% certain....

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                                          lostINtheWORLD
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                                          RED no its not Allah who sealed your heart its you who sealed with disbelief. becoz having faith in something is totally up to choice of ones heart/mind.

                                          usually people think its Allah who sealed heart eyes ears, but if u carefully understand these verses these are people who are stubborn and dnt want to accept the truth but obviously they already know its truth , example of firoon and the one who debate with abraham regarding God , these type of people Allah is addressing becoz they just dnt want to submit.and in the making of decision of anything regarding faith its totally up to a person what choice he take in the life.

                                          GREEN no it will depend on your choice

                                          the power of decision is in your hand and you will get the results accoring to your decision.if u decided to beilve in Allah and the day of judgement angels and messengers and do rightieos deeds ,then u dnt need to worry. thats it . y riskinng our life in one single chance of gamble ,
                                          if you believe ,it will not gona give u loss of anything like money kids finance , so why should we take risk of not beleiving in God ,on the other hand if we believe in him life will get relaxed and here after is definate . think about it for a while , if u beleive u will not gona lose anything , but if u disbeleive and if things are true regarding here after then see where u will gona stand at that ocassion.

                                          so play gamble in safe mode ,and life is a big gamble with only one chance.

                                          i try to explain u according to my weak understanding. hope so it will help , but i m also posting some verses of the book it will help u ila inshallah.

                                          4150 And when We let him taste a mercy from Us after adversity had
                                          touched him, he will say ?This was by my actions, and I do not
                                          think that the Hour will come to pass. And even if I am returned
                                          to my Lord, I will find at Him good things for me.? Surely, We
                                          will inform the rejecters of all they had done, and We will let
                                          them taste the severe retribution.
                                          4151 And when We bless man, he withdraws and turns away, and when
                                          he suffers any adversity, then he implores at length!

                                          7536 Did man think that he will be left neglected?
                                          7537 Was he not a seed from sperm put forth?
                                          7538 Then he was an embryo, so he was created and developed.
                                          7539 Then He made from it the pair, the male and the female.
                                          7540 Is One as such then not able to resurrect the dead?

                                          7720 Did We not create you from a fragile water,
                                          7721 Then We made it in a place of protection,
                                          7722 Until a time that is predetermined?
                                          7723 So We measured, and We are the best to measure.

                                          761 Was there not a time in the past when man was nothing to even be
                                          mentioned?
                                          762 We have created man from a mixed seed; We test him, so We made
                                          him hear and see.
                                          763 We have guided him to the path, either to be thankful or to reject.

                                          But I can't believe in Angels, Stick changed into snake, Paradise, Judgement Day,......

                                          EVEN if I WANT !

                                          GREEN no it will depend on your choice

                                          yeah How can I make my mind swallow all these things? If I can, I would not have come here, isn't ?

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