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PLEASE HELP. I FEAR THE HELL

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    lostINtheWORLD
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    If God "seals someone's heart" to throw them into Hell He is definitely evil.

    Well, I was a true Islamophobe and I hated Allah;

    I remember to tag insults towards Allah in walls....

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      About Harun Yahya's miracles

      a) http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_11.html The letters that comprise the word ?petrol? appear side by side in only one verse of the Qur?an (659)
      b) http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_14.html The letters that constitute the word television appear side by side, from left to right (2717)
      c) http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_04.html The term DNA appears in 1865, the date when the science of genetics began
      d)http//www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_06.html In 4825 the letters comprising the words Fe (iron) and hemoglobin miraculously appear side by side.

      I not murder anyone, but I fear even so, because I not believe in Angels

      Hi,

      Ok you meant thus that because of Harun Yahya you started to believe that the quran is a special book and because the quran speaks about a God you started to believe there is a God.
      Have you ever considered all the miracles around you and in you? Those miracles we call them nowadays normal, it's nature. The apple I eat, oh that is just a apple that is nature. My eyes that allow me to see, oh that is normal, that is nature. Grass, ow that is just grass, nothing special. The sun, just one of the zillion stars, nothing special. etc till infinity

      We are totally forgetting the real miracles.

      BLUE I also do not believe in angels.

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        imrankhawaja
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        God is not a psychopath, what have you done to deserve eternal Hellfire?

        Have you murdered, tortured or raped people? Can you honestly believe in a God who is so "offended" by human beings not "believing" in His existance, that He will torture you in an eternal Hellfire for that? I don't believe in such a God. If such a God really exists, we are all screwed as nobody would be safe from such an injust, immoral and evil God... nobody could trust Him or count on anything He says.

        why not beleiving in his existense ,if Allah exist. why dnt we work for companies to give us money and in return we are ready to obey them, if u did not obey them they will fire you,

        Does it really make sense to you that God will burn billions of Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Shintoists and others in Hell because they were born and raised in the "wrong" cultures and countries? If God is going to do that, to Hell with God...

        he will surely burn all of them who are distracted by devil through whatever reason and one of them is associationg anything with him you mention all of other religion why not muslims who are just muslims by name , listen carefully he is Allah , and with full of justice , if he put everybody in janna without giving them punishment ,the rest of the people will ask definately from Allah whats this unjustice ,this person rape/murder/robbed me and you placed him in janna is it fair.

        and about everybody christian jews muslim alll of them ,Allah will not gona do any injustice with them not a least quantity of atom, everybody will be asked and judged by the conditions that apply to him according to his situation in the life. do u think that anything is hidden from him,, he already know everything

        The God I believe in is totally different.. I'm not afraid of God, I'm afraid of doing bad things to His creation - humans, animals and nature - that God wouldn't approve of. Just be a good person, be just, be humane and peaceful, think about it, what else could God want from you?

        thats totally logical but allah dnt want anything from any body he is kulli shieen qadeer he is over all things competant. whether you beleive him or not beileve him it will not gona change the fact .he is already great ,he is always great . its we who need Allah, and we always need to remember from which drop of water we come in to reality . our reality ,,

        Harun Yahya is a liar and deceiver, don't ever read or watch anything of his works anymore.

        about his words i m not bother ,nobody should be. or Allah dnt need to show his miracles to make us believe ,infact every single second in the heavens and earth there are live signs of Allah one need to ponder..

        from where the sun is getting energy ,how come with just a water a dead land become green , how come .. who could have create such a massive constellation with perfect order and it is beautified to us.

        peace

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          imrankhawaja
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          BLUE I also do not believe in angels.

          what is ur understanding of malika ,
          spirit gabriel , mikael

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            imrankhawaja
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            But I can't believe in Angels, Stick changed into snake, Paradise, Judgement Day,......

            EVEN if I WANT !

            stick change in to snake, lol
            my brother , cant you see the heavens without pillars,
            cant you see water become clouds,
            cant you see water evporates ,and vanished
            cant you see from just a tiny seed Allah grows a tree and give u fruit..
            cant you see motion of celestil bodies..
            have you ever look in to ur fingertips ,have a look in it a proper look and let me know what u think after that.

            converting a stick into snake is nothing ,infront of Allah he knows all the laws how to change and transform the matter in to another form or shape, even a magician of circus bring out birds in a order it looks like pigeon become parrot ,, hen become duck, but thats what we call trick, the same trick ,that was being done by magicians of firoon, but miracle and trick are different things, sun is a live miracle that vanish the water,, hope u get it what i m trying to say and moses stick was miracle not a trick, and all the magicians accept the God of moses after watching their insult...

            cant you see after catching a fire everything change its shape to ashes,,,

            lot more to tell but space

            GREEN no it will depend on your choice

            yeah How can I make my mind swallow all these things? If I can, I would not have come here, isn't ?

            red . can you detail it plz , i think i didnt get it what you are trying to say.

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              imrankhawaja
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              I remember to tag insults towards Allah in walls....

              i just want to remember you one thing.

              king plan to through abraham in the fire, making his people believe there is no god,

              after a while , miracously fire ceased to flowers (aaah ha)

              king(from inside he is shocked) but thats what we call seal only the people who make fun of God ,there is seal(stubborness) in their heart.

              but he played another trick now, becoz people was amazed due to this event

              asking from abraham , face to face

              Abraham what so special in your God, abraham said Allah is the one who control death and life,
              king said i can control as well whoever i wish i spare whoever i wish i kill,,,

              very interesting situation, abraham said ok my lord cause sun to rise from east,, can you rise it from west...
              check mate...

              now he is anwerless and after all this if somebody not beleive , we can said its a seal of stubborrness becoz truth come to them but they reject, that type of people Allah have no room for them ,,,

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                Bender
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                what is ur understanding of malika ,

                Hi,

                Angels are according to google this
                http//images.clipartpanda.com/christmas-angel-clipart-pretty_christmas_angel_0515-0912-1017-0020_SMU.jpg
                I do not believe in these creatures.

                The name malaykat already says what malaykat s are.

                spirit gabriel , mikael

                jibriel I have some speculation, but worthless
                mikael no idea, not even a speculation

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                  Recluse
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                  Well, I was a true Islamophobe and I hated Allah;

                  I remember to tag insults towards Allah in walls....

                  I don't hate Allah, God, the Creator of the universe, or whatever you want to call Him/it. I only hate the fake psychotic God of Muslims, Christians and Jews. A God that is irrational, injust, unfair and racist. I can't believe in the existance of such a God. Why did you hate God, for similar reasons perhaps?

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                    Recluse
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                    he will surely burn all of them who are distracted by devil through whatever reason and one of them is associationg anything with him

                    If you had been born in Japan, you would have been a Shintoist and be thrown into eternal hellfire too, right? Do you realize how incredibly ridiculous this is? How can you believe and trust in such an evil and insane God?

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                      lostINtheWORLD
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                      converting a stick into snake is nothing ,infront of Allah he knows all the laws how to change and transform the matter in to another form or shape, even a magician of circus bring out birds in a order it looks like pigeon become parrot ,, hen become duck, but thats what we call trick, the same trick ,that was being done by magicians of firoon, but miracle and trick are different things, sun is a live miracle that vanish the water,, hope u get it what i m trying to say and moses stick was miracle not a trick, and all the magicians accept the God of moses after watching their insult...

                      But why Allah cares about my belief about the staff changed into snake?

                      I can believe the existence of God, but regard to other stuff, is very hard.

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                        yeah How can I make my mind swallow all these things? If I can, I would not have come here, isn't ?

                        red . can you detail it plz , i think i didnt get it what you are trying to say.

                        My choice is coming here in this Forum to discover more things.

                        Because the mainstream Sunno-Wahabi clericalized religion annoy me. Yes, it is annoy me. Sorry for Sunno-Wahabis who are reading this, but your point of view doesn't interest me; and, logically, I accept the same criticism coming from them.

                        But how can choose to believe a thing which I can't ?

                        elektro

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                          Comrox
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                          My choice is coming here in this Forum to discover more things.

                          Because the mainstream Sunno-Wahabi clericalized religion annoy me. Yes, it is annoy me. Sorry for Sunno-Wahabis who are reading this, but your point of view doesn't interest me; and, logically, I accept the same criticism coming from them.

                          But how can choose to believe a thing which I can't ?

                          elektro

                          I think a lot of us here are here/have been here for the same reason as you, lostINtheWORLD. We're looking to discover, discuss, learn, question, etc. I don't think you can really "choose" to believe something. Theoretically it may be possible, but you have to be sincere and true to yourself. We come to our beliefs by pre-conceived notions, studying, wondering, questioning, etc. If you can't accept something right now, that's fine. You don't have to and no one is forcing you to.

                          I think it would be healthy to rid yourself of this overwhelming fear you seem to have. Just relax and live your life. Try to be open minded and study more about religion/spirituality if you're interested, but don't feel that you have to fit yourself to a certain ideology. If you're trying to force yourself to believe something, it won't work.

                          Open up your heart and mind and see what the world is trying to tell you.

                          Peace. sun

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                            lostINtheWORLD
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                            I think a lot of us here are here/have been here for the same reason as you, lostINtheWORLD. We're looking to discover, discuss, learn, question, etc. I don't think you can really "choose" to believe something. Theoretically it may be possible, but you have to be sincere and true to yourself. We come to our beliefs by pre-conceived notions, studying, wondering, questioning, etc. If you can't accept something right now, that's fine. You don't have to and no one is forcing you to.

                            I think it would be healthy to rid yourself of this overwhelming fear you seem to have. Just relax and live your life. Try to be open minded and study more about religion/spirituality if you're interested, but don't feel that you have to fit yourself to a certain ideology. If you're trying to force yourself to believe something, it won't work.

                            Open up your heart and mind and see what the world is trying to tell you.

                            Peace. sun

                            Before posting a new-age spirituality-based discourse, remember we are talking about the Hell, not the Hawaiis...

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                              Before posting a new-age spirituality-based discourse, remember we are talking about the Hell, not the Hawaiis...

                              Some fear is healthy, too much is self-destructive.

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                Hi,

                                Angels are according to google this
                                http//images.clipartpanda.com/christmas-angel-clipart-pretty_christmas_angel_0515-0912-1017-0020_SMU.jpg
                                I do not believe in these creatures.

                                The name malaykat already says what malaykat s are.

                                jibriel I have some speculation, but worthless
                                mikael no idea, not even a speculation

                                allright , the image is manmade image of some imagination by mind. the google image i mean,i dnt beleive on it either.
                                about angels/malaika no body really knows or imagine how they do look like ,its something normal
                                but you didnt tell me i m asking your understaning about malaika not the gooogle one , i m asking the ones that mention in quran?

                                peace

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                                  But why Allah cares about my belief about the staff changed into snake?

                                  Allah dnt need to care about your beleif. its human being who is alwasy doubtful and want to see miracles, but what Allah is saying there , read properly, even showing live miracles to these people they turned themselves to calf and forget allah , the last prophet of quran did not claim any miracles , because people already reject miracles before prophet muhammad.

                                  I can believe the existence of God, but regard to other stuff, is very hard.

                                  why dnt you beleive in sun. moon galaxies. blackholes, your own character and thinking, cant you see all the stuff around you , is it all trick or thats what your vision see and interpret in your mind what we are seeing is the law of eye sight .. think about it other stuff is not even worthy to be discussion , the hhighness of Allah is above from anything we can associate with Allah...

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                                    Have God sealed my heart?

                                    And it is not for a soul to believe except by permission of Allah , and He will place defilement upon those who will not use reason. 10100
                                    Test it yourself
                                    Do you blindly believe the scholars (both mullahs and scientists)?
                                    Are you independent in your thinking?
                                    Do you give importance to your thoughts or go by "I'll believe in love when there is a journal article written about it"?
                                    Do you make an attempt to reflect upon the world and God?

                                    I'm destined to the Hell?

                                    Do you hurt people?
                                    Do you abuse love?
                                    Do you oppress people?
                                    Are you like one of the characters from 120 days of sodom?
                                    Are you being an enemy to planet earth?

                                    Now I don't know exactly which kind would go to hell. But yeah, it seems oppressors would definitely get the ticket.

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                                      imrankhawaja
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                                      Now I don't know exactly which kind would go to hell. But yeah, it seems oppressors would definitely get the ticket.

                                      yeh. and they trangress the system becoz hey reject the system at first place , so they think nothing will gona happen to them hereafter.

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        My choice is coming here in this Forum to discover more things.

                                        everybody came here due to same reason.

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                                          lostINtheWORLD
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                                          Do you hurt people?
                                          Do you abuse love?
                                          Do you oppress people?
                                          Are you like one of the characters from 120 days of sodom?
                                          Are you being an enemy to planet earth?

                                          Now I don't know exactly which kind would go to hell. But yeah, it seems oppressors would definitely get the ticket.

                                          The simply fact to not believe, or not believe enough, can be a reason to be destined into Hell...

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