Was the Quran we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet ?
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Are you talking about th Balfour declaration or what are talking about.
You seem to wander thousands of years mixing eveyrthing up and of course blaminng tha Arabs. Always blame the Arabs, there you cannot be wrong.
And in what are many parts of the old testament any better than Bujari and why should the qur'an be passed through the sieve of the old Testament as if it wasn't clear enough or the old testament were any cleaarertha the Qur'an.
That is where a lot of hadith come from recisely from te old testament. Bukhari is notopposed to the old testament but abut the same.Plus ?a change plus c'est la m?me chose.
Salaam
First of all, we should know our history.
Second, who did attack Israel with nearly all Arab nations and lost that war?
I didn't!
I am just speaking of a recent war, and not one thousand of years ago.
Anyways, i do not always blame the Arabs. That's not my point. I blame those that are against Israel.
We can't compare the Torah, Psalms and Gospel with the books written by people like Bukhari etc.
We should read the Quran some more. And we should stop denying Israel. Because Israel does have a history. The Tabernacle is a great example.
But heey, i am not going to discuss with you here on this thread since that is not the main-topic. You can always pm me if you would like to talk further about this..
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Palestine was occupied land y thhe britih empire nd the briih empire creatd there withut onsutinngthe populationn a National HomeforEurpean jews. It had noright too do that.and then jew rfgees from Erope ere by forced mde to g to Palestinne and dispossessed the native popation of allttheir rright and created arrtifiially a state forinmigrants to hte exclusionn of te ntive poopulation.
If yufind tht right I wish it ill be done to yo and yor eole see if you enjoy it.
Is tha wwhat Qur'ann saysto conquer annd coit genocide with the nnative populations annd apprpriate their ountries and states.
HYo do you dar eblme the victims. it is reuslive. The only criminals are origially the Europeans who threw their jewish ppulationns o or killed them. Nt the arbs, but when eole do not have the guts to fight the real ennemies they pick o te defenceless to destroy them annd difame them. It is repulsive and disgut?sting. If you do not have the guts to fight the oppresor, at leas do not attempto soil their name.
And least of all use revelatio to codoe such crimes You might as well shit on them.
Salaam
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Palestine was occupied land y thhe britih empire nd the briih empire creatd there withut onsutinngthe populationn a National HomeforEurpean jews. It had noright too do that.and then jew rfgees from Erope ere by forced mde to g to Palestinne and dispossessed the native popation of allttheir rright and created arrtifiially a state forinmigrants to hte exclusionn of te ntive poopulation.
If yufind tht right I wish it ill be done to yo and yor eole see if you enjoy it.
Is tha wwhat Qur'ann saysto conquer annd coit genocide with the nnative populations annd apprpriate their ountries and states.
HYo do you dar eblme the victims. it is reuslive. The only criminals are origially the Europeans who threw their jewish ppulationns o or killed them. Nt the arbs, but when eole do not have the guts to fight the real ennemies they pick o te defenceless to destroy them annd difame them. It is repulsive and disgut?sting. If you do not have the guts to fight the oppresor, at leas do not attempto soil their name.
And least of all use revelatio to codoe such crimes You might as well shit on them.
Salaam
Not entirely correct..
Here's a good, funny and unbiased crash course on the history of Israel Palestine conflict..
Conflict in Israel and Palestine Crash Course World
https//youtu.be/1wo2TLlMhiwPalestine was occupied land by the Israel / Palestine
before that British
before that Ottoman Empire
before that Rum Seljuk
before that Mongols
before that Arab Caliphates
before that Europe Christians
before that Arab Caliphates
before that Europe Christians again
before that Arabs again
(repeat this loop 3 or 4 more times)
before that Arab Caliphates again
before that Romans
before that Persians
before that Romans again
before that Greeks
before that Persians again
before that Syrians
before that Israilite (phew finally)
before that Phillistines (phew finally, Hey aren't they Arabs? even the word Arabs wasn't around back then)
before that Hittites (Aren't they Arabs???)
before that Egypts (Hey aren't they Arabs too???)
before that Hittites again
(Repeat the above loops about 2 times)
before that Babylonian
before that a bunch of nomadic people coming from Africa moving around..
before that the NEANDERTHAL..
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Palestine was occupied land y thhe britih empire nd the briih empire creatd there withut onsutinngthe populationn a National HomeforEurpean jews. It had noright too do that.and then jew rfgees from Erope ere by forced mde to g to Palestinne and dispossessed the native popation of allttheir rright and created arrtifiially a state forinmigrants to hte exclusionn of te ntive poopulation.
If yufind tht right I wish it ill be done to yo and yor eole see if you enjoy it.
Is tha wwhat Qur'ann saysto conquer annd coit genocide with the nnative populations annd apprpriate their ountries and states.
HYo do you dar eblme the victims. it is reuslive. The only criminals are origially the Europeans who threw their jewish ppulationns o or killed them. Nt the arbs, but when eole do not have the guts to fight the real ennemies they pick o te defenceless to destroy them annd difame them. It is repulsive and disgut?sting. If you do not have the guts to fight the oppresor, at leas do not attempto soil their name.
And least of all use revelatio to codoe such crimes You might as well shit on them.
Salaam
Have you read the Torah?
My wicked view and understand of Israel changed after reading the Quran and the Torah.
You have been warned.
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The Qur'an speks of the tawrat and the injil. I doubt tht wht is now extantt as the "torah" is not ncessarily what the qur'an seaks about, and in factif reading those make you hink tht right is wronng and wrong is right you better kee your torah for yourself, because it seemnot to be teaching you enither truth nor justice. And also you betternotmix the Qur'a inthat king of componenda.
As to tthe warning...nnot be funny, why don't you warn yourself? If you are sor eadily agreed on injustice you could do with little warning.
Also, yes I read the whole Bible, and for the Bible aplieas the same as for hadith. Some of it is good, even very good, and some of it is corrupting.
And it is lie to ry to say that what the bible contain the Qur'an enjoin, again some of it is good and agree with the Qur'an and some of it does ot and is completely against it.
Salaam
For the Bible aplieas the same as for hadith.
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The Qur'an speks of the tawrat and the injil. I doubt tht wht is now extantt as the "torah" is not ncessarily what the qur'an seaks about, and in factif reading those make you hink tht right is wronng and wrong is right you better kee your torah for yourself, because it seemnot to be teaching you enither truth nor justice. And also you betternotmix the Qur'a inthat king of componenda.
As to tthe warning...nnot be funny, why don't you warn yourself? If you are sor eadily agreed on injustice you could do with little warning.
Also, yes I read the whole Bible, and for the Bible aplieas the same as for hadith. Some of it is good, even very good, and some of it is corrupting.
And it is lie to ry to say that what the bible contain the Qur'an enjoin, again some of it is good and agree with the Qur'an and some of it does ot and is completely against it.
Salaam
For the Bible aplieas the same as for hadith.
568 Say "O people of the Book, you are not upon anything until you uphold the Torah and the Gospel and what was sent down to you from your Lord." And for many of them, what was sent down to you from your Lord will only increase them in transgression and rejection. So do not feel sorry for the rejecting people.
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568 Say "O people of the Book, you are not upon anything until you uphold the Torah and the Gospel and what was sent down to you from your Lord." And for many of them, what was sent down to you from your Lord will only increase them in transgression and rejection. So do not feel sorry for the rejecting people.
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"The Qur'an speks of the tawrat and the injil. I doubt tht what is now extantt as the "torah" is ncessarily what the qur'an seaks about,..."
Of course, evybody is free to gamble on it. Certain it is not.
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The Quran is so "Israelitic" and so "Semitic"....
Non Semites or those who are not exposed or familiar with Semitic cultural background will not find it either compelling or interesting or relevant.. Some good examples has been discussed on various thread on this forum..
Yet it also doesn't matter...
The "writings of God" (metaphorically speaking) can be found on the entire universe around you..
And it cannot be forged by anyone...You got it right!. This Quran is the Arabic Version and it was specifically sent to the South Arabians, including the Israelites. Thats why you find it "Israelitic" and "Semitic". The Tawrat Confirms this and so does the Quran...
Deuteronomy 17
Turn ye and depart and enter into the mountain of the Amorites, and to all that dwell near about ARABA - to the mountain and the plain and to the south and the land of the Chananites near the sea and Antilibanus, BEYOND THE RIVER EUPHRATES .
X reference with Quran 02246 - 249
Have you not considered the assembly of the Children of Israel after Moses when they said to a prophet of theirs, "Send to us a king, and we will fight in the way of Allah "? He said, "Would you perhaps refrain from fighting if fighting was prescribed for you?" They said, "And why should we not fight in the cause of Allah when we have been driven out from our homes and from our children?" But when fighting was prescribed for them, they turned away, except for a few of them. And Allah is Knowing of the wrongdoers.
And their prophet said to them, "Indeed, Allah has sent to you Saul as a king." They said, "How can he have kingship over us while we are more worthy of kingship than him and he has not been given any measure of wealth?" He said, "Indeed, Allah has chosen him over you and has increased him abundantly in knowledge and stature. And Allah gives His sovereignty to whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing."
And their prophet said to them, "Indeed, a sign of his kingship is that the chest will come to you in which is assurance from your Lord and a remnant of what the family of Moses and the family of Aaron had left, carried by the angels. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers."
And when Saul went forth with the soldiers, he said, "Indeed, Allah will be testing you with a SUBTERRANEAN AQUIFER . So whoever drinks from it is not of me, and whoever does not taste it is indeed of me, excepting one who takes in the hollow of his hand." But they drank from it, except a few of them. Then when he had crossed it along with those who believed with him, they said, "There is no power for us today against Goliath and his soldiers." But those who were certain that they would meet Allah said, "How many a small company has overcome a large company by permission of Allah. And Allah is with the patient."
The Quranic verses tells us that the Israelites, after 40 years, were commanded by ALLAH, to enter South Arabia. In doing so, they had to cross a SUBTERRANEAN AQUIFER that runs along the north Kuwait border to south-west of Hafar Al Batain, this is presently known as the Wadi al Batin. The PHORAT runs across Saudi Arabia and forks midway north-west to the An Nafud Desert, and turns west where a prehistoric system of lakes existed at the region now called Jubbah in northern Arabia.
This is an evidence which proves that the Israelites were in South Arabia. Not only that but Bernard Leeman confirms this in his book ?Queen of Sheba and Israel?,
So first, let?s hear it from English scholar Bernard Leeman, author of the book ?Queen of Sheba and Israel?, who takes us onto a journey to the world of modern archeology, and reiterates the words of the Western and ?Israeli? academics themselves. In the introduction to his book, Leeman writes the following (quoted words are in bold text)
From 1974 to 1975, I taught in Jizan in southwestern Saudi Arabia and was puzzled by the remains of substantial but uninvestigated ancient urban settlements scattered about that region. I found that there is very little literature on the pre-Christian history of the region between Jeddah and the Yemen. Arab legends about an ancient Israelite presence in the region were not at that time taken seriously by Western academics.
And Mr. Leeman is right. Because it wasn?t until 1985, when prominent Lebanese historian and linguist Kamal Salibi (RIP) published his book ?The Torah Came from Arabia?, that academics began to take notice, and the Saudi rulers ? ever the ones to despise and loathe archeology - began to shift uncomfortably in their seats.
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Was the Quran that we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet?
If so, could you please elaborate on it since i am seeking for the science of it.
The answer can be found in the Quran itself. The embedded mathematical codes provide solid evidence that the book cannot be written by humans. No other book on earth comes close. It is written in arabic but 'arabic' can also mean 'clear' and the best part not all arabic speaking ppl follow it.
The Quran's wisdom is only given to those who approach it sincerely - first come submission - then faith - all are measured by action one takes.