Was the Quran we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet ?
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Was the Quran that we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet?
If so, could you please elaborate on it since i am seeking for the science of it.
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Peace Adam The Warner,
Was the Quran that we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet?
If so, could you please elaborate on it since i am seeking for the science of it.
Sana'a manuscripts are one of the oldest Quranic manuscripts in existence. They were found during renovation of a wall in the attic of Great Mosque of Sana'a, the capital of Yemen in 1972 after damage from heavy rains. Approximately 15,000 manuscripts were found belonging to almost 1000 unique copies of the Quran of which none are complete.
It is said that Prophet Muhammad was associated with the mosque's planning and construction around 630 CE. Many of the archeological finds discovered in the Great Mosque substantiate its construction to the era when the Prophet was alive.
An agreement was made between Yemeni and German governments for restoration and cataloging of these manuscripts. The project was funded by the cultural section of Foreign Ministry of West Germany. The restoration of manuscripts began in 1980 under the supervision of Yemeni Department for Antiquities. Gerd Puin and Hans-Caspar Bothmer were the local directors of the project. Professor Puin is a German scholar and an authority on Qur'anic historical orthography, the study and scholarly interpretation of ancient manuscripts, and a specialist in Arabic calligraphy. Work continued to the end of 1989, when the project terminated with the end of funding. The manuscripts were stored in the House of Manuscripts, the Dar al-Makhtutat in Sana'a, Yemen. In 1996-1997 the German team which enjoyed exclusive access to the site, began to microfilm as much of the material as they could totalling more than 35,000 images.
The Sana'a palimpsest is one of the most important manuscripts of the collection. It is written on parchment in the Hijazi script and comprises two layers of text. Palimpsest is a manuscript page from which the text has been either scraped or washed off, so that the page can be reused for another document.
The upper text conforms to the standard Uthmanic text (with some minor differences), whereas the lower text contains significant diversions from the standard text. The ordering of some surahs in the lower text is also different from the standard text. A radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment containing the lower text to before 671 CE with a 99% accuracy, with a 95% probability of being older than 661 CE and 75% probability of being from before 646 CE.
The lower text was erased and written over, but due to the presence of metals in the ink, the lower text has resurfaced, and now appears in a light brown color. It can also be viewed by X-ray fluorescence imaging and ultraviolet imaging.
The Sana'a palimpsest is not complete and comprises of 80 folios which are roughly half of the Quran. An edition of the upper and lower text of 40 folios was published by Behnam Sadeghi (Professor of Islamic Studies at Stanford University) and Mohsen Gourdazi (PhD student at Harvard University) in March 2012. Dr Elisabeth Puin, daughter of professor Puin, published detailed results of the analysis of these folios in 2008-2009. The remaining 40 folios are in the Eastern Library of the Great Mosque in Sana'a and their upper and lower text has not been published yet.
Analysis done at the Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS) Laboratory at the University of Arizona indicated that the Sana'a palimpsest had a 68% (1σ probability of belonging to the period between 614 CE to 656 CE. It had a 95% (2σ probability of belonging to the period between 578 CE and 669 CE. The carbon dating was applicable to the lower text.
Early Muslim tradition describing the existence of companion codices such as codices of Ibn Masud and Ubayy bin Ka'b, and the types of variants reported in them has now received textual confirmation with the discovery of Sana'a palimpsest.
Emphasis mine.
http//en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sana'a_manuscript
http//www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Mss/soth.html####################
Example of diversion from standard text
Several words are missing within a paragraph leading to a different meaning
Sahih International translation ?? (if) they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.
Sana'a manuscript, ?DAM 0 1-27.1?, translation ?? (if) they turn away, Allah will punish them in this world. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.
The finishing letter, ?Alif?, in ?yatawallaw?, ?they turn away?, found in today?s standard text of the Quran is missing in the early manuscript under discussion, as indicated by the empty box with a black frame above. Moreover, in the the verb ?yu?addibhum?, ?he (Allah) will punish them?, found on ?Fol. 16r, Z.13?, is not explained with ?adaban aliman?, ?with a painful punishment?, as in the Standard Text (StT). There one finds ?fi?l-dunya wa-?l-ahirati?, ?in this world and in the Hereafter.? The Sana'a manuscript contains only ?in this world? and therefore fits better with the end of the verse in both versions ?And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.?
Emphasis mine.
http//www.answering-islam.org/authors/oskar/palimpsest.html
THUS NO PAINFUL PUNISHMENT IN HEREAFTER IN 974 ACCORDING TO SANA'A PALIMPSEST.
This monumental discovery of a Quran palimpsest could be the smoking gun evidence of possible deliberate human tampering of Quranic verses and casts a doubt over 100% authenticity of the current Arabic text of al-Quran. I am eagerly awaiting completion of research on remaining 40 folios of Sana'a palimpsest and all 15000 Sana'a manuscripts, and archeological discovery of the entire first original Arabic text of al-Quran for further evidence and to see the full extent of such tampering.
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"Yemeni authorities already debarred Puin and Bothmer from further examination of those manuscripts. In fact, now they do not allow anyone to see those manuscripts anymore except some very carefully selected non-Quranic parchments, which are at display at the ground floor of Dar al-Makhtutat Library."
"Ursula Dreibholz, a preservation expert, who worked on the Sana?a project for eight years as the chief conservator, is much frustrated by seeing the lack of concern of Yemeni authorities to protect those manuscripts by using modern technology (1983, p. 30-8 ). Neither the security devices are correct, nor is adequate attention being given to the manuscripts to avoid further deterioration (1996, p. 131?45). In fact, Dreibholz (1999, p. 21?5) said that it was her greatest concern to create a safe and reliable permanent storage system for the restored fragments. Also, the poor storage hardly has any protection from insects and water. Most importantly, there is a lack of fire prevention or detection system, keeping in mind the truly catastrophic fires that have destroyed important libraries and artworks around the world throughout history. The Yemeni authorities said they have neither money nor means to install fire protection systems. She does not understand the genuine reason behind the apathy of Yemeni authorities."
Emphasis mine.
https//doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2010/10/23/will-the-ancient-quranic-manuscripts-be-the-downfall-of-islam/
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There is also Muslim historical evidence about existence of various codices of al-quran at the time of death of the messenger which reportedly had significant differences.
http//www.inthenameofallah.org/Codices%20of%20the%20Quran.html
Reportedly, caliph Usman arbitrarily chose one of the codices (Zaid's codex) as the standard text of al-quran and burned the remaining! (for example codices of Ibn Masud and Ubayy Ibn Ka'b). Question is, what was he trying to hide and who give him the authority to do what he did? Muhammad? Gabriel? The Infinite Creator? The sectarians own traditions say that Muhammad preferred the knowledge of quran of Ibn Masud over all others. Guess whose codex was conveniently destroyed - the codex of Ibn Masud!
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If al-zikr is divinely protected/preserved (159), the entire original Arabic text must be present somewhere on this Earth and will be discovered one day. Already the divine protection can be seen in action by the miraculous discovery of Sana'a palimpsest and through modern X-ray fluorescence and ultraviolet imaging technology.
May the infinite Creator guide us to the truth.
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Peace.
Here is another view?https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaSY4BB-2Q
Keep searching or the truth.
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
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Example of diversion from standard text
Several words are missing within a paragraph leading to a different meaning
Sahih International translation ?? (if) they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.
Sana'a manuscript, ?DAM 0 1-27.1?, translation ?? (if) they turn away, Allah will punish them in this world. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.
The finishing letter, ?Alif?, in ?yatawallaw?, ?they turn away?, found in today?s standard text of the Quran is missing in the early manuscript under discussion, as indicated by the empty box with a black frame above. Moreover, in the the verb ?yu?addibhum?, ?he (Allah) will punish them?, found on ?Fol. 16r, Z.13?, is not explained with ?adaban aliman?, ?with a painful punishment?, as in the Standard Text (StT). There one finds ?fi?l-dunya wa-?l-ahirati?, ?in this world and in the Hereafter.? The Sana'a manuscript contains only ?in this world? and therefore fits better with the end of the verse in both versions ?And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.?
Emphasis mine.
http//www.answering-islam.org/authors/oskar/palimpsest.html
THUS NO PAINFUL PUNISHMENT IN HEREAFTER IN 974 ACCORDING TO SANA'A PALIMPSEST.
This monumental discovery of a Quran palimpsest could be the smoking gun evidence of possible deliberate human tampering of Quranic verses and casts a doubt over 100% authenticity of the current Arabic text of al-Quran. I am eagerly awaiting completion of research on remaining 40 folios of Sana'a palimpsest and all 15000 Sana'a manuscripts, and archeological discovery of the entire first original Arabic text of al-Quran for further evidence and to see the full extent of such tampering.
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"Yemeni authorities already debarred Puin and Bothmer from further examination of those manuscripts. In fact, now they do not allow anyone to see those manuscripts anymore except some very carefully selected non-Quranic parchments, which are at display at the ground floor of Dar al-Makhtutat Library."
"Ursula Dreibholz, a preservation expert, who worked on the Sana?a project for eight years as the chief conservator, is much frustrated by seeing the lack of concern of Yemeni authorities to protect those manuscripts by using modern technology (1983, p. 30-8 ). Neither the security devices are correct, nor is adequate attention being given to the manuscripts to avoid further deterioration (1996, p. 131?45). In fact, Dreibholz (1999, p. 21?5) said that it was her greatest concern to create a safe and reliable permanent storage system for the restored fragments. Also, the poor storage hardly has any protection from insects and water. Most importantly, there is a lack of fire prevention or detection system, keeping in mind the truly catastrophic fires that have destroyed important libraries and artworks around the world throughout history. The Yemeni authorities said they have neither money nor means to install fire protection systems. She does not understand the genuine reason behind the apathy of Yemeni authorities."
Emphasis mine.
https//doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2010/10/23/will-the-ancient-quranic-manuscripts-be-the-downfall-of-islam/
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There is also Muslim historical evidence about existence of various codices of al-quran at the time of death of the messenger which reportedly had significant differences.
http//www.inthenameofallah.org/Codices%20of%20the%20Quran.html
Reportedly, caliph Usman arbitrarily chose one of the codices (Zaid's codex) as the standard text of al-quran and burned the remaining! (for example codices of Ibn Masud and Ubayy Ibn Ka'b). Question is, what was he trying to hide and who give him the authority to do what he did? Muhammad? Gabriel? The Infinite Creator? The sectarians own traditions say that Muhammad preferred the knowledge of quran of Ibn Masud over all others. Guess whose codex was conveniently destroyed - the codex of Ibn Masud!
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If al-zikr is divinely protected/preserved (159), the entire original Arabic text must be present somewhere on this Earth and will be discovered one day. Already the divine protection can be seen in action by the miraculous discovery of Sana'a palimpsest and through modern X-ray fluorescence and ultraviolet imaging technology.
May the infinite Creator guide us to the truth.
Quran 1590-91
Just as We had revealed to the conspirators
Who have made the Qur'an into form one could not comprehand
The Quran already prophecised of its distortion made by the conspirators.
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Peace.
Here is another view?https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaSY4BB-2Q
Keep searching or the truth.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I have seen the video now for 2-3 times already.
May our Lord increase our knowledge.
I am really interested now in if the prophet Mohammed did write the Quran he received from God down and what happened to the book.
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Peace Adam,
I am really interested now in if the prophet Mohammed did write the Quran he received from God down and what happened to the book.
Please read chapter 5 of the following book "Conspiracies against the Quran" by Sayed Abdul Wadud, it answers your question in great detail
http//www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/Conspiracies.pdf
Peace
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Quran 1590-91
Just as We had revealed to the conspirators
Who have made the Qur'an into form one could not comprehand
The Quran already prophecised of its distortion made by the conspirators.
1590 As for the dividers in what We sent down.
1591 Theones who have made the Qur'an partial.
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Peace Adam,
Please read chapter 5 of the following book "Conspiracies against the Quran" by Sayed Abdul Wadud, it answers your question in great detail
http//www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/Conspiracies.pdf
Peace
You are a treasur trove.
Great
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Was the Quran we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet ?
answer. indeed quran is authorised by God through a messenger.. and its free of violation...
if it was fixed the enemes of islam exposed it ages ago,,
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Was the Quran we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet ?
answer. indeed quran is authorised by God through a messenger.. and its free of violation...
if it was fixed the enemes of islam exposed it ages ago,,
I want to know about how it was compiled. I also want to know about how the Gospel, Psalms and Torah are compiled.
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Peace Adam.
The million dollar question/statement, quoteI want to know about how it was compiled. I also want to know about how the Gospel, Psalms and Torah are compiled.
This requires hard work, deep research,patience, prayer, belief,trust in GOD Alone...Science ,logic,trust in GOD Alone...Dedication,study of Qoran/bible from cover to cover again and again, trust in GD Alone,...Checking of all information,trusting in GOD Alone...Faith and Reason,more study, trust in GOD Alone...etc...
Why did GOD renew His scriptures? Why did GOD protect the last revelation/Qoran? Or did He?...etc.
For example did GOD know we will have the technology and Sciences to check His words? Did GOD lock His words Mathematically so we can compare/check them against "men s words"?...
May the Lord guide you and give you the patience to dig deeper and deeper...etc.
GOD S promise is "certainty at the end o the sincere "journey"to ind GOD s truth.!!!
GOD bless you.
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I found this https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HDFiC2boQ
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I found this https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HDFiC2boQ
i have plan to see these pages i m also living in birmingham....
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Peace all,
I found this https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HDFiC2boQ
There were only 2 fragments (folios) that were discovered not the entire Quran manuscript as the title deceptively implies. Contrast that with approximately 15,000 parchment fragments from almost 900 Qurans that were discovered in Sanaa which were carbon dated to around the same time.
Peace
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All praise due to God, Lord of the worlds.
Beautiful, by the will of God i saw that video a while ago.
I should pay a visit to that library because i live in the Netherlands, not far from England.
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All praise due to God, Lord of the worlds.
Beautiful, by the will of God i saw that video a while ago.
I should pay a visit to that library because i live in the Netherlands, not far from England.
be my guest when you come .. inshallah we will go together... i live in the brmingham
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be my guest when you come .. inshallah we will go together... i live in the brmingham
By the will of God, my goal is to go first to Jerusalem and bring a copy of the Torah, Psalms, Gospel and Quran with me )!
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be my guest when you come .. inshallah we will go together... i live in the brmingham
is the exhibition still on right?
how did you find the manuscript, worth paying a visit?)