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Which are the sacred months

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    Lunar month (represented by waxing crescent, full moon, waning crescent, etc) is one thing,
    calendar month is another;
    they are not similar let alone the same.

    Lunar months (e,g. full moons) are created by God, they are up in the sky, and each one of them represents 29.5 days
    but calendar months are man-made, they are ON PAPER called calendar, and they change in length from 29 to 31 days.

    You had better not mix them up.

    SANAH (year) according to the Quran is the time that the earth takes to rotate once around the sun;
    there are sometimes 12 lunar moths (e,g 12 full moons) in it, sometimes 13, like in this year of 2018.

    Lunar months (e,g full moons) do not make the year,
    they make the series of full moons ( in 936).

    Well, don't the Arabs and Jews follow a lunar calendar?

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      Well, don't the Arabs and Jews follow a lunar calendar?

      Jews do not follow the pure lunar year,
      they folow a luni-solar year

      Since the sum of 12 lunar months is about 11 days shorter than a solar year, a leap month is added every 2 to 3 years, or 7 times in a 19-year cycle. Leap months are meant to keep the calendar in step with the astronomical seasons and make sure that the religious observances occur at the correct time of year, as mentioned in the Torah. (https//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/jewish-calendar.html)

      As for the Arabs, they do follow the pure lunar year in our time
      but that lunar year does not have a sense of time because it does not have seasons,
      so the Arabs cannot answer "According to the lunar year what season was I born?"

      The only year system which Allah approves of is the solar year. The Quran provides proofs of this, one of which is 105*.


      *From Yunus 5

      God is the one who? determined phases for the moon
      so that you may know the number of the years (&#1614.

      One of the phases of the moon is the full moon.

      Here are the times of the 33 hot full moons (the full moons right after the longest daytime) from 2001 to 2033. If you count them you will know the number of the solar years as Allah says in 105, but you will never know the number of the so-called lunar years.

      05 July. 2001
      24 June 2002 ----- 1 (full moon 13)
      13 July. 2003
      02 July. 2004
      22 June 2005 ----- 2
      11 July. 2006
      30 June 2007 ----- 3
      17 July. 2008
      07 June 2009 ----- 4
      26 July. 2010
      15 July. 2011
      03 July. 2012
      23 June 2013 ----- 5
      12 July. 2014
      02 July. 2015 ----- 6
      19 July. 2016
      09 July. 2017
      28 June 2018 ----- 7
      16 July. 2019

      05 July. 2020
      24 June 2021 ----- 8
      13 July. 2022
      02 July. 2023
      22 June 2024 ----- 9
      11 July. 2025
      30 June 2026 ---- 10
      17 July. 2027
      07 July. 2029
      26 June 2030 ---- 11
      15 July. 2031
      03 July. 2032
      23 June 2033 ---- 12

      33 hot full moons = 33 solar years
      ??????????? = 34 lunar years

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        Jews do not follow the pure lunar year,
        they folow a luni-solar year

        Since the sum of 12 lunar months is about 11 days shorter than a solar year, a leap month is added every 2 to 3 years, or 7 times in a 19-year cycle. Leap months are meant to keep the calendar in step with the astronomical seasons and make sure that the religious observances occur at the correct time of year, as mentioned in the Torah. (https//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/jewish-calendar.html)

        As for the Arabs, they do follow the pure lunar year in our time
        but that lunar year does not have a sense of time because it does not have seasons,
        so the Arabs cannot answer "According to the lunar year what season was I born?"

        The only year system which Allah approves of is the solar year. The Quran provides proofs of this, one of which is 105*.


        *From Yunus 5

        God is the one who? determined phases for the moon
        so that you may know the number of the years (&#1614.

        One of the phases of the moon is the full moon.

        Here are the times of the 33 hot full moons (the full moons right after the longest daytime) from 2001 to 2033. If you count them you will know the number of the solar years as Allah says in 105, but you will never know the number of the so-called lunar years.

        05 July. 2001
        24 June 2002 ----- 1 (full moon 13)
        13 July. 2003
        02 July. 2004
        22 June 2005 ----- 2
        11 July. 2006
        30 June 2007 ----- 3
        17 July. 2008
        07 June 2009 ----- 4
        26 July. 2010
        15 July. 2011
        03 July. 2012
        23 June 2013 ----- 5
        12 July. 2014
        02 July. 2015 ----- 6
        19 July. 2016
        09 July. 2017
        28 June 2018 ----- 7
        16 July. 2019

        05 July. 2020
        24 June 2021 ----- 8
        13 July. 2022
        02 July. 2023
        22 June 2024 ----- 9
        11 July. 2025
        30 June 2026 ---- 10
        17 July. 2027
        07 July. 2029
        26 June 2030 ---- 11
        15 July. 2031
        03 July. 2032
        23 June 2033 ---- 12

        33 hot full moons = 33 solar years
        ??????????? = 34 lunar years

        God is the one who? determined phases for the moon
        so that you may know the number of the years (&#1614.

        How is that verse talking about a solar calendar? Isn't that verse talking about a lunar calendar?

        I don't understand it.

        You used a formula to find out when the full moons will be. Can't that formula be used in a lunar calendar type?

        Can you take your time if that what you say is really true. I don't have any knowledge about basic science. So i am willing to be patience, if it makes sense.

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