How do you pray as a Quranist?
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allah not accepted any ritual
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Oh in case brother Wakas pulls me up asking for evidence of "Naabudu" and "Nastaiin". from my last post in this thread. I better state my Qoranic evidence.
Naabudu" is the "Sirat Al mustaqueem" from" Wa Ani Uubuduni hada Siratun Mustaqueem" And Sirat Mustaqueem is from 6-151-153.
"Nastaiin"" is the help we require from salat,patience... from ..Wa Istaiinu Bisabri Wa Salat."GOD bless.
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fasting is for religion everthing lie make up illuminati old world order
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I honestly haven't figured it out for myself yet.
In theory I have no issues with the ritual prayer as practiced by Muslims, as it is a reasonable enough way to pray. But I am a night person and I live really far north, so praying the five prayers is ridiculously convoluted and due to how radically the times change it's actually impossible to do it as a ritual.
In the mean time I just recite al-Fatihah constantly.
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Salaam,
Wakas has a great article on Salaat which I recommend everyone read. I read the Quran during Salaat (sitting on a desk) and then pray humbly to God after reading the Quran. Sometimes I kneel and pray.Wakas Article
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I don't "pray" as I believe Salat is not praying.
For me, Salat is teaching to constantly remind people to keep the contract of ethics (called the Deen in Qur'an) in a safe state, i.e. remind people that the Deen is a contract of ethics between God and the people, where God keeps the nation safe if people fulfill their share of contract by respecting the ethics.
But 3 times a day is just propaganda, one time a week should be fine.
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1779 in my opinion is not talking about prayer.
"Tajahud" can mean "meditation" /similar to "Dhikr" which is another way of freeing one s mind from the worries/concerns of our day.
GOD bless.
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to me the subject of solat is about being discipline.
Allah does not need anything from us but we need to be discipline and be connected to Allah in whatever we do in life.
So the two times mentioned being fajar and isyak are just to built discipline of connecting with Allah for beginning and ending the day.
Tahajjud is extra work for those who seek Allah, studying, contemplating, etc essentially disciplining ourselves to find ourselves within just like Ibrahim and the prophets.
How you wanna do it is up to you, freestyle, there is no restriction but you do it for your self and for your own development or sanity.
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and be connected to Allah in whatever we do in life.
Why? Can you not stand on own legs? Are you a daddy's boy?
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For me, Salat is teaching to constantly remind people to keep the contract of ethics (called the Deen in Qur'an) in a safe state, i.e. remind people that the Deen is a contract of ethics between God and the people, where God keeps the nation safe if people fulfill their share of contract by respecting the ethics.
But 3 times a day is just propaganda, one time a week should be fine.
That's what I believe also and shafi's debate seems to show that people didn't do salat everyday. They had no rakah either.
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5115
Indeed, the righteous will be among gardens and springs,5116
Accepting what their Lord has given them. Indeed, they were before that doers of good.5117
They used to sleep but little of the night,5118
And in the hours before dawn they would ask forgivenessShows how important night prayer and fajr are.
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To those doing ritual prayer, prove using the Quran
- the concept of a "raka"
- how many supposed "raka" you are to do per "prayer"
- what to do in the "raka"
- where the word "raka" is mentioned
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To those doing ritual prayer, prove using the Quran
- the concept of a "raka"
- how many supposed "raka" you are to do per "prayer"
- what to do in the "raka"
- where the word "raka" is mentioned
You're a bit too dogmatic, in that you expect all people who uphold salat to uphold it the same. If you
have a preconceived bias about a specific thing then it clouds your judgement and will not permit you
constructively analyze the matter at hand.
Is performing a salat which includes standing, kneeling and prostrating along with reciting and reading of Quran at prescribed fixed times supported by the Quran?
Yes. Yes it is.
However I do not want to presume that is what you are after perhaps you are strictly referring to traditionalist ritual prayer.
First define what you mean as ritual prayer.
Is the concept of raka your only objection to ritual prayer?
If so then, know that many do not even go by such notions when upholding their daily commitment.
Many people have different ways of upholding salat and many do not include the concept of raka as myself, for example.
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The light in me salutes the light in ye.
My personal inward journey, or rather contact with G.D, has led me to kundalini yoga in specific, but also tai chi, and reiki,...
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The true meaning of islam, in a universal/esoteric context, is wholeness
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Adem and its mate are within you, the Anima and Animus.
Iblis (hybris) in the quran denotes the super-ego, in psychology.
salat is not prayer, it is a connection/bonding/tuning into the universal frequency of oneness within/out you. In this meditative state, there is no-mind., no you/identity, no ego, no gender.. only surrender
an euphoric oneness with the unified field of awareness/consciousness that permeates all; thusly giving us access to the pure knowledge/gnosis of the akashic record, and eventually recovery of your long forgotten etheric body and psychic faculties.