Allah - Common Noun?
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Whise convention is that that masculine denotes majesty?
he moon is more majestic than the sun, for instance? The sun is feminine in Arabic and the moon masculine, like in German.
That is the kind of nonsense that undoes the other logical questions dealt with in the post, like that the gender of words is a grammatical question, a convention of grammar, and not any statement about the masculinity or femininity of say a chair or a brush. But gendering words does a lot to simplify and make language economical, which is why so many languages use gender as an important trait. But getting into the meekness and softness is nonsense. In Spanish "stone" is feminine, so much for softness. Of course, there ar emany words that also mean stones or some kind of stones and which are not feminine, but who cares and who fantasizes about it to come up with some sort of mystical transposition of grammar?
I am not saying a mystical transposition of grammar cannot be done, but surely not that silly unfounded way.
Salaam
When Grammar itself was invented? If it came after The Quran Divine revelation then it has no authority on the language Allah/God (SWTAY)
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Hmm.. i have seen this argument before. Brother Ayman said that as well.
Could you also give me some more? I am interested in this common noun understanding of Allah.
These are common nouns
5319 have so seen you allat and al-uza
https//s7.postimg.org/93wm1ql4r/ch52v45-ch53v21.png
Whereas
5924 he the god the creator...
https//s7.postimg.org/lije1r7ej/ch59v17-ch60v0.png
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These are common nouns
5319 have so seen you allat and al-uza
https//s7.postimg.org/93wm1ql4r/ch52v45-ch53v21.png
Whereas
5924 he the god the creator...
https//s7.postimg.org/lije1r7ej/ch59v17-ch60v0.png
I can see that you have taught yourself grammaticaly?
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When Grammar itself was invented? If it came after The Quran Divine revelation then it has no authority on the language Allah/God (SWTAY)
Meant to say the language Allah/God (SWTAY) is using.
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When Grammar itself was invented? If it came after The Quran Divine revelation then it has no authority on the language Allah/God (SWTAY)
Grammar is inherent to language. Every language has grammar, just like any material thing has a structure. Gramar is not any more invented than language. Automatically if there language there is grammar, because the language is formed with a structure, otherwise we would not be able to communicate. But the constructing of any particular language may follow conventions, not inventions but conventions. Gender is one such convention. s aside from conventions, but exists in those things that are gendered. When applied to things that are not gendered in themselves, it is a convention. We agree or tacitle accept that a encil will hav e this or that gender, that virtues will have this or that gender, etc. etc. Just also like the days of the week are a convention. No essential difference between one day or another, just a convention for convenience and order. Language itself is a convention.
So no need to look for an alibi in the grammar of the Qur'an, where, by the way the sun is also feminine.
Salaam
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I can see that you have taught yourself grammaticaly?
e.g. deconstruct/parse longest word in Arabic language/Qur'an
1522 fa-asqaynkumhu/so gave drink we you (pl.) it
http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=33656
https//s7.postimg.org/jq3wtw46j/ch15v7-25.jpg
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e.g. deconstruct/parse longest word in Arabic language/Qur'an
1522 fa-asqaynkumhu/so gave drink we you (pl.) it
http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=33656
https//s7.postimg.org/jq3wtw46j/ch15v7-25.jpg
Um...you sadly lost me.
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Um...you sadly lost me.
you asked; gave example of longest word (its grammatical components).
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you asked; gave example of longest word (its grammatical components).
Actually i said this
Could you also give me some more? I am interested in this common noun understanding of Allah.
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There is one i forgot to show is that another main argument is the word Allah is a contraction of AL & ILAH. What do you say this Noon? Could you gives a detailed explanation dear brother of Mankind?
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And before you respond dear brother i must let you know that my knowlegde in the arabic language is very poor.
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There is one i forgot to show is that another main argument is the word Allah is a contraction of AL & ILAH. What do you say this Noon? Could you gives a detailed explanation dear brother of Mankind?
peace, already gave examples common nouns
5319 have so seen you al-lata wal-uza
5320 wamanata the third (f) the other
5323 not it is except names named ye themwhereas definition the one and only deity is clear
32 the god not deity except he the alive the sustainer
63 and he the god in the heavens and in the land knoweth secret yours and public yours and knoweth what thou earning
5924 he the god the creator the inventor the fashioner to him the names the beautiful glorify to him what in the heavens and the land and he the mighty the wise
1121 say he the god one
1122 the god the eternal
1123 not begets and not begotten
1124 and not beeth to him equal of one/anyonehttps//digilib.bbaw.de/digitallibrary/servlet/Scaler?fn=/silo10/Koran/SayyidaZainab/112-001a&dw=800
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whereas definition the one and only deity is clear
There are these verses that support that
Wahuwa allathee fee alssama-iilahun wafee al-ardi ilahun wahuwa alhakeemualAAaleemu
4384 He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on earth. He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable.Qul innama yooha ilayya annamailahukum ilahun wahidun fahal antummuslimoona
21108 Say"It is inspired to me that your god is but One god, so will you submit to Him?"Innama ilahukumu Allahuallathee la ilaha illa huwa wasiAAakulla shay-in AAilman
2098 Your god is God; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things.Waqala Allahu latattakhithoo ilahayni ithnayni innama huwailahun wahidun fa-iyyaya fairhabooni
1651 And God said "Do not take two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence."Qul ayyu shay-in akbaru shahadatanquli Allahu shaheedun baynee wabaynakum waoohiyailayya hatha alqur-anu li-onthirakum bihiwaman balagha a-innakum latashhadoona anna maAAa Allahi alihatanokhra qul la ashhadu qul innama huwa ilahunwahidun wa-innanee baree-on mimma tushrikoona
619 Say "Which is the greatest testimony?" Say "God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Qur'an that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods!" Say "I do not bear witness!" Say "He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!"
4171
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi wakalimatuhu alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo biAllahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee alssamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa biAllahiwakeelan
O people of the Book, do not overstep in your system, nor say about God except the truth. Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of God and the fulfillment of His word to Mary and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not say "Trinity." Cease, for it is better for you. God is only One god, be He glorified that He should have a son! To Him is all that is in the heavens and the earth; and God is enough as a Caretaker.
1452
Hatha balaghun lilnnasiwaliyuntharoo bihi waliyaAAlamoo annama huwa ilahunwahidun waliyaththakkara oloo al-albabi
This is a proclamation for the people and so that they are warned with it, and so that they know that there is but One god, and so that those who possess intelligence will remember. -
You must have high interest on ancient manuscripts of Al-Quran. )
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You must have high interest on ancient manuscripts of Al-Quran.
Tell me dear brother Noon, when the manuscript of Birmingham was discovered, how did it effect your research of Al-Quran?
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Tell me dear brother Noon, when the manuscript of Birmingham was discovered, how did it effect your research of Al-Quran?
peace sardar, it's oldest dated confirms initials not counted as separate verses.
likewise confirmation that the Quran was preserved by the pen not by hearsay.
https//s7.postimg.org/hnubyng97/Birmingham_Quran_ch19v91-ch20v13.jpg
likewise with Quran Ma VI 165 in T?bingen University Library
http//idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/diglit/MaVI165https//s10.postimg.org/82uouwhcp/MA_VI_165_Quran_ch19v97-ch20v16.jpg
likewise Quran in Berlin, Staatsbibliothek Wetzstein II 1913 Ahlwardt 305
http//digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN618539204&PHYSID=PHYS_0005&DMDID=&view=overview-tileshttps//s10.postimg.org/4pmg8m3bt/Ahlwardt_305_ch20v0-22.jpg
https//s10.postimg.org/yqh3dqq2x/Ahlwardt_305_ch67v25-ch68v0-21.jpg
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peace sardar, it's oldest dated confirms initials not counted as separate verses.
likewise confirmation that the Quran was preserved by the pen not by hearsay.
That is so true. There is are few verses that says Al-Quran is preserved by honorable people but i don't remember the verses? Could you help me out?
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That is so true. There is are few verses that says Al-Quran is preserved by honorable people but i don't remember the verses? Could you help me out?
http//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/80/vers/15?handschrift=56
8011 nay indeed it reminder
8012 so who wills heeds it
8013 in scrolls honorable
8014 exalted pure
8015 by hands scribes
8016 noble dutiful -
http//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/80/vers/15?handschrift=56
8011 nay indeed it reminder
8012 so who wills heeds it
8013 in scrolls honorable
8014 exalted pure
8015 by hands scribes
8016 noble dutifulThank you so much Noon.
I have two last questions
1 Have you encountered some people saying that the word God is a pagan word or connected to female gentalia? (They use the bible if i recall correctly)
2 What is your research on Al-Akhirat? (The Hereafter/Afterlife)
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http//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/80/vers/15?handschrift=56
The link is in german. Do you have a english version?
