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Aya 2.61 Which prophets were killed?

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    good_logic
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    Peace huruf.
    As far as I understand the ayat, GOD is addressing Beni Israeel at the time of Qoran. Hence GOD is going through their history from the time of Moses to that present(When Qoran was revealed,7th Century). So the killing of the Messengers would have been after Moses. i.e sometimes between them times, including Jesus time.
    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

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      huruf
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      So, before or after or at the same time, which prophets did they kill?

      Salaam

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        Peace huruf.
        All I know for sure is what Qoran says.
        GOD is saying every time a prophet messenger or messenger was sent to them, some they did not believe and ridiculed or some they killed.

        I take it you want verses from Qoran of the prophets they killed?
        Well If Qoran did not give details, then I cannot confirm for you which. What we have in history is disputable as Qoran is the only criteria you will accept.
        For example John the Baptist, Jesus and some others before them during the reign of the kingdoms after David...

        However if Qoran says they killed some ,then I believe they did. For me the details are irrelevant .
        Hope that helps.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          huruf
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          I have the idea some are mentionned int he Qur'an. Not Yahia, nor 3isa but others, but my idea is foggy. I thought somebody might have a clearer recollection or knowlege.

          Salaam

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            I have the idea some are mentionned int he Qur'an. Not Yahia, nor 3isa but others, but my idea is foggy. I thought somebody might have a clearer recollection or knowlege.

            Salaam

            Salaam huruf

            I do not think that Quran mentions any names of prophets who were killed by bani israel.

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              huruf
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              Thank you for your answers.

              I did not mean to restrict it to Bani Israil, but killed by whoever., any prophet killed by people.

              Thank you again.

              Salaam

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                huruf
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                Tehere are in the Qur'an at least six mentions of prophets being slain.

                Since none of those mentionned with name is mentionned as being killed, it would seem that the number of prophets may have been larger than the mention in the Qur'an, just of the people familiar with the previous stories of the recievers of the Qur'an at the time of revelation.

                I guess the number of prophets slain worldwide may be high, if those in the circle of the Qura'nic revelation are anything to go by.

                Which also says that those who follow the true messages of God may have it easy, but not less may have it crude. Truth many times is very unwellcome.

                Salaam

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                  The basic meanings of the word which is erroneously translated as "slaying" is character assassination.

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                    The basic meanings of the word which is erroneously translated as "slaying" is character assassination.

                    Thank you. I have been telling the same in my circle but no one believes it. For then qatala means to kill .

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                      I do not think that root q-t-l means always necessarily kill, but I think in the Qur'an many times it means that. Take ayas from 5.27 to 32. I think it means kill. I have no reason to believe in the case where God speaks of killing prophets does not also mean or include int he meaning the fact of killing them. With Musa they were close.

                      Salaam

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                        I do not think that root q-t-l means always necessarily kill, but I think in the Qur'an many times it means that. Take ayas from 5.27 to 32. I think it means kill. I have no reason to believe in the case where God speaks of killing prophets does not also mean or include int he meaning the fact of killing them. With Musa they were close.

                        Salaam

                        You are correct, it doesn't. Here is the root word Qaf-Ta-Lam ( &#1604 = to kill, put to death, be accused, slay/murder/kill/slaughter, attempt to kill, render person like to one killed, to wage war/combat/battle, to master, contend/fight, deadly, knew a thing thoroughly/well, become acquainted with it.

                        qatala vb. (I)
                        perf. act. 272, 2251, 3183, 492, 4157, 4157, 4157, 530, 532, 532, 595, 595, 6140, 817, 1874, 1874, 2040, 2819, 2833
                        impf. act. 261, 285, 287, 291, 321, 321, 3112, 429, 492, 493, 527, 528, 528, 570, 595, 6151, 6151, 7150, 817, 830, 9111, 1210, 1731, 1733, 2568, 2614, 289, 2819, 2820, 2833, 3326, 4026, 4028, 6012
                        impv. 254, 2191, 2191, 466, 489, 491, 95, 129, 2924, 4025
                        perf. pass. 3144, 3154, 3156, 3157, 3158, 3168, 3169, 3195, 1733, 2258, 474, 5110, 7419, 7420, 8017, 819, 854
                        impf. pass. 2154, 474, 9111
                        n. vb. 2191, 2217, 3154, 3181, 4155, 530, 6137, 1731, 1733, 3316

                        qatala n.m. (pl. of qatil) - 2178,

                        qattala vb. (II)
                        impf. act. 7127, 7141
                        perf. pass. 3361
                        impf. pass. 533,
                        n. vb. 3361

                        qatala vb. (III)
                        perf. act. 2191, 3146, 3195, 490, 930, 3320, 4822, 5710, 5710, 609, 634
                        impf. act. 2190, 2191, 2191, 2217, 2246, 2246, 2246, 313, 3111, 474, 474, 475, 476, 476, 490, 490, 490, 913, 936, 983, 9111, 4816, 5914, 608, 614, 7320
                        impv. 2190, 2193, 2244, 3167, 476, 484, 524, 839, 912, 914, 929, 936, 9123, 499
                        perf. pass. 5911, 5912
                        impf. pass. 2239
                        n. vb. 2216, 2217, 2217, 2246, 2246, 3121, 3167, 477, 477, 816, 865, 3325, 4720

                        iqtatala vb. (VIII) perf. act. 2253, 2253, 499, impf. act. 2815

                        LL, V8, p 238 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=qtl

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                          Peace,

                          The Quran has ayats about conflict/and being at war, and in war we sometimes kill
                          and sometimes are killed, as unpleasant and as devastating as conflict can be
                          this is what happens. Which prophets where killed? I am not aware of
                          prophets who where killed mentioned in the Quran.

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