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    MaryK
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    Just explain me WHY according to Quran kaffirs and idol worshippers should burn in hell just because they didnt not believe in divinity of islam?

    Why person is condemned to hell according to his beliefs and not his actions and good deeds?

    "And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze"

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      See this

      http//www.quransmessage.com/articles/understanding%20kufr%20FM3.htm

      https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/how-disbelief-in-god-and-akhirat-leads-to-hell/

      https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2016/05/23/why-belief-in-god-and-akhirat-is-so-important/

      https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2016/08/11/will-god-send-disbelievers-to-eternal-hell/

      http//www.quransmessage.com/articles/is%20the%20punishment%20of%20hell%20eternal%20FM3.htm

      3539
      Huwa allathee jaAAalakum khala-ifafee al-ardi faman kafara faAAalayhi kufruhu walayazeedu alkafireena kufruhum AAinda rabbihim illamaqtan wala yazeedu alkafireena kufruhum illakhasaran
      He is the One who made you successors on the earth. So, whoever rejects, then to him is his rejection. And the rejection of the rejecters only increases the abhorrence of their Lord towards them. The rejection of the rejecters only increases their loss.

      3540
      Qul araaytum shurakaakumu allatheenatadAAoona min dooni Allahi aroonee matha khalaqoomina al-ardi am lahum shirkun fee alssamawatiam ataynahum kitaban fahum AAalabayyinatin minhu bal in yaAAidu alththalimoonabaAAduhum baAAdan illa ghurooran
      Say "Do you see the partners whom you have called on besides God? Show me what they have created on the earth. Or do they possess any partnership in the heavens? Or have We given them a book wherein they are taking knowledge from it? Indeed, what the transgressors promise one another is no more than arrogance."

      3541
      Inna Allaha yumsiku alssamawatiwaal-arda an tazoola wala-in zalatain amsakahuma min ahadin min baAAdihi innahu kanahaleeman ghafooran
      God is the One who holds the heavens and the earth, lest they cease to exist. And they would certainly cease to exist if anyone else were to hold them after Him. He is Compassionate, Forgiving.

      3542
      Waaqsamoo biAllahi jahda aymanihimla-in jaahum natheerun layakoonunna ahda minihda al-omami falamma jaahum natheerunma zadahum illa nufooran
      And they swore by God in their strongest oaths, that if a warner came to them, they would be the most guided of all nations, but when a warner came to them, it only increased their aversion!

      3543
      Istikbaran fee al-ardi wamakraalssayyi-i wala yaheequ almakru alssayyi-oilla bi-ahlihi fahal yanthuroona illasunnata al-awwaleena falan tajida lisunnati Allahitabdeelan walan tajida lisunnati Allahi tahweelan
      Arrogance on the earth, and evil scheming. And the evil schemes only backfire on those who scheme them. Were they expecting anything different from the ways used on the people of the past? You will not find any change in the way of God, and you will not find any bypass to the way of God.

      3544
      Awa lam yaseeroo fee al-ardi fayanthurookayfa kana AAaqibatu allatheena min qablihimwakanoo ashadda minhum quwwatan wama kanaAllahu liyuAAjizahu min shay-in fee alssamawatiwala fee al-ardi innahu kana AAaleemanqadeeran
      Did they not roam the earth and note how was the consequence for those who were before them? And they were even more powerful than they in strength. But nothing can inhibit God be it in the heavens, or the earth. He is Knowledgeable, Omnipotent.

      3545
      Walaw yu-akhithu Allahualnnasa bima kasaboo ma taraka AAalathahriha min dabbatin walakinyu-akhkhiruhum ila ajalin musamman fa-itha jaaajaluhum fa-inna Allaha kana biAAibadihi baseeran
      And if God were to punish the people for what they have earned, He would not leave a single creature standing. But He delays them to an appointed term. So, when their time comes, then God is Seer of His servants

      4083
      Falamma jaat-hum rusuluhum bialbayyinatifarihoo bima AAindahum mina alAAilmi wahaqabihim ma kanoo bihi yastahzi-oona
      Then, when their messengers came to them with clear proofs, they were content with what they already had of knowledge. And they will be surrounded by that which they used to mock.

      5725
      Laqad arsalna rusulana bialbayyinatiwaanzalna maAAahumu alkitaba waalmeezanaliyaqooma alnnasu bialqisti waanzalnaalhadeeda feehi ba/sun shadeedun wamanafiAAu lilnnasiwaliyaAAlama Allahu man yansuruhu warusulahu bialghaybiinna Allaha qawiyyun AAazeezun
      We have sent Our messengers with clear proofs, and We sent down with them the Book and the balance, so that the people may uphold justice. And We sent down the iron, wherein there is great strength, and many benefits for the people. So that God would distinguish those who would support Him and His messengers in the unseen. God is Powerful, Noble.

      If you see above, that doesn't sound like someone saying Oh i don't believe in that, therefore i disbelieve! No my brothers & sisters that sounds like someone is in denial of the truth and want to make an evil scheme against it. See more verses like these 289-109, 626, 2714, 3542-43, 3670, 4126, 4732

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        Just explain me WHY according to Quran kaffirs and idol worshippers should burn in hell just because they didnt not believe in divinity of islam?

        Why person is condemned to hell according to his beliefs and not his actions and good deeds?

        "And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze"

        Where exactly in the Qur'an does Allah/God (SWTAY) punish kafirun for their BELIEF? Because as of right now, i have not seen one yet.

        Also see this by brother Aijaz

        https//topicsfromquran.wordpress.com/2018/05/04/recognize-groups-by-their-behaviors-not-by-their-labels/

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          And the word Kafir is a antonym (opposite) of Shakrun

          Shiin-Kaf-Ra = to give thanks, be grateful, realize or acknowledge one's favour, praise. shukrun - giving thanks, gratitude. shaakirun - one who gives thanks or is grateful, appreciated and bountiful in reward.
          shakruurun - thankful. Sometimes a distinction is made between this word and shaakirun. The former is used to denote a person who is thankful for little or for nothing, the latter grateful for large favours.
          mashkuurun - gratefully accepted, acceptable.

          shakara vb. (1)
          perf. act. 4147, 147, 2740, 5435
          impf. act. 252, 256, 2185, 2243, 3123, 56, 589, 710, 758, 826, 1060, 1238, 1437, 1614, 1678, 2236, 2378, 2719, 2740, 2740, 2773, 2873, 3046, 3112, 3112, 329, 3512, 3635, 3673, 397, 4061, 4512, 4615, 5670, 6723
          impv. 2152, 2172, 16114, 2917, 3112, 3114, 3415
          n.vb. 2562, 3413, 769
          pcple. act. 2158, 3144, 3145, 4147, 653, 663, 717, 7144, 7189, 1022, 16121, 2180, 3966, 763, 1719
          pcple. pass. 7622

          shakur n.m. (adj.) 145, 173, 3131, 3413, 3419, 3530, 3534, 4223, 4233, 6417

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            Just explain me WHY according to Quran kaffirs and idol worshippers should burn in hell just because they didnt not believe in divinity of islam?

            Why person is condemned to hell according to his beliefs and not his actions and good deeds?

            "And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze"

            Also did you check the verse with context? If you read this verse alone, you won't get the full story.

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              MaryK
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              Also did you check the verse with context? If you read this verse alone, you won't get the full story.

              yes i did, and what else could this phrase mean?

              Lets say a person read quran in details, but his still does not believe in its divinity, does it mean he should burn in hell?

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                The_Sardar
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                yes i did, and what else could this phrase mean?

                Lets say a person read quran in details, but his still does not believe in its divinity, does it mean he should burn in hell?

                Actually that depends, i don't know if i have a good answer but only Allah/God (SWTAY) knows who is a kafir and you did read the verses right? Because if you did then you may know what kafirun is. Plus how do you know that person does not have pre-conceived bias and ill intentions? Read these verses as well

                61
                Alhamdu lillahi allatheekhalaqa alssamawati waal-ardawajaAAala alththulumati waalnnoorathumma allatheena kafaroo birabbihim yaAAdiloona
                Praise be to God who has created the heavens and the earth, and Who made the darkness and the light; yet those who have rejected their Lord continue to deviate.

                62
                Huwa allathee khalaqakum min teeninthumma qada ajalan waajalun musamman AAindahu thumma antumtamtaroona
                He is the One who has created you from clay, then He decreed a period of time for you; a time only known by Him. Yet you still deny.

                63
                Wahuwa Allahu fee alssamawatiwafee al-ardi yaAAlamu sirrakum wajahrakum wayaAAlamu mataksiboona
                And He is God in the heavens and the earth. He knows your secrets and what you reveal; and He knows what you earn.

                64
                Wama ta/teehim min ayatin min ayatirabbihim illa kanoo AAanha muAArideena
                And every sign that came to them from their Lord, they turned away from it.

                65
                Faqad kaththaboo bialhaqqilamma jaahum fasawfa ya/teehim anbao makanoo bihi yastahzi-oona
                They have denied the truth when it came to them. The news will ultimately come to them of what they were mocking.

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                  not all disbelievrs have ill intentions!

                  Can someone please clear it up for me?

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                    not all disbelievrs have ill intentions!

                    Can someone please clear it up for me?

                    How do you know that not all disbelievers have ill intentions? Not claiming that they do by the way.

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                      Plus you did read the links and the verse right?

                      See this

                      http//www.quransmessage.com/articles/understanding%20kufr%20FM3.htm

                      https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/how-disbelief-in-god-and-akhirat-leads-to-hell/

                      https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2016/05/23/why-belief-in-god-and-akhirat-is-so-important/

                      https//lampofislam.wordpress.com/2016/08/11/will-god-send-disbelievers-to-eternal-hell/

                      http//www.quransmessage.com/articles/is%20the%20punishment%20of%20hell%20eternal%20FM3.htm

                      3539
                      Huwa allathee jaAAalakum khala-ifafee al-ardi faman kafara faAAalayhi kufruhu walayazeedu alkafireena kufruhum AAinda rabbihim illamaqtan wala yazeedu alkafireena kufruhum illakhasaran
                      He is the One who made you successors on the earth. So, whoever rejects, then to him is his rejection. And the rejection of the rejecters only increases the abhorrence of their Lord towards them. The rejection of the rejecters only increases their loss.

                      3540
                      Qul araaytum shurakaakumu allatheenatadAAoona min dooni Allahi aroonee matha khalaqoomina al-ardi am lahum shirkun fee alssamawatiam ataynahum kitaban fahum AAalabayyinatin minhu bal in yaAAidu alththalimoonabaAAduhum baAAdan illa ghurooran
                      Say "Do you see the partners whom you have called on besides God? Show me what they have created on the earth. Or do they possess any partnership in the heavens? Or have We given them a book wherein they are taking knowledge from it? Indeed, what the transgressors promise one another is no more than arrogance."

                      3541
                      Inna Allaha yumsiku alssamawatiwaal-arda an tazoola wala-in zalatain amsakahuma min ahadin min baAAdihi innahu kanahaleeman ghafooran
                      God is the One who holds the heavens and the earth, lest they cease to exist. And they would certainly cease to exist if anyone else were to hold them after Him. He is Compassionate, Forgiving.

                      3542
                      Waaqsamoo biAllahi jahda aymanihimla-in jaahum natheerun layakoonunna ahda minihda al-omami falamma jaahum natheerunma zadahum illa nufooran
                      And they swore by God in their strongest oaths, that if a warner came to them, they would be the most guided of all nations, but when a warner came to them, it only increased their aversion!

                      3543
                      Istikbaran fee al-ardi wamakraalssayyi-i wala yaheequ almakru alssayyi-oilla bi-ahlihi fahal yanthuroona illasunnata al-awwaleena falan tajida lisunnati Allahitabdeelan walan tajida lisunnati Allahi tahweelan
                      Arrogance on the earth, and evil scheming. And the evil schemes only backfire on those who scheme them. Were they expecting anything different from the ways used on the people of the past? You will not find any change in the way of God, and you will not find any bypass to the way of God.

                      3544
                      Awa lam yaseeroo fee al-ardi fayanthurookayfa kana AAaqibatu allatheena min qablihimwakanoo ashadda minhum quwwatan wama kanaAllahu liyuAAjizahu min shay-in fee alssamawatiwala fee al-ardi innahu kana AAaleemanqadeeran
                      Did they not roam the earth and note how was the consequence for those who were before them? And they were even more powerful than they in strength. But nothing can inhibit God be it in the heavens, or the earth. He is Knowledgeable, Omnipotent.

                      3545
                      Walaw yu-akhithu Allahualnnasa bima kasaboo ma taraka AAalathahriha min dabbatin walakinyu-akhkhiruhum ila ajalin musamman fa-itha jaaajaluhum fa-inna Allaha kana biAAibadihi baseeran
                      And if God were to punish the people for what they have earned, He would not leave a single creature standing. But He delays them to an appointed term. So, when their time comes, then God is Seer of His servants

                      4083
                      Falamma jaat-hum rusuluhum bialbayyinatifarihoo bima AAindahum mina alAAilmi wahaqabihim ma kanoo bihi yastahzi-oona
                      Then, when their messengers came to them with clear proofs, they were content with what they already had of knowledge. And they will be surrounded by that which they used to mock.

                      5725
                      Laqad arsalna rusulana bialbayyinatiwaanzalna maAAahumu alkitaba waalmeezanaliyaqooma alnnasu bialqisti waanzalnaalhadeeda feehi ba/sun shadeedun wamanafiAAu lilnnasiwaliyaAAlama Allahu man yansuruhu warusulahu bialghaybiinna Allaha qawiyyun AAazeezun
                      We have sent Our messengers with clear proofs, and We sent down with them the Book and the balance, so that the people may uphold justice. And We sent down the iron, wherein there is great strength, and many benefits for the people. So that God would distinguish those who would support Him and His messengers in the unseen. God is Powerful, Noble.

                      If you see above, that doesn't sound like someone saying Oh i don't believe in that, therefore i disbelieve! No my brothers & sisters that sounds like someone is in denial of the truth and want to make an evil scheme against it. See more verses like these 289-109, 626, 2714, 3542-43, 3670, 4126, 4732

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                        You should also see this

                        http//quransmessage.com/articles/itmam%20FM3.htm

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                          Actions and good deeds are subjective and even if you do good doesn?t mean it?s all good. Let me share an example.
                          I intend to make a cake for my dear friend. I found a recipe and followed it but the cake was disastrous, I had good intentions by the outcome wasn?t good.

                          why do you think kaffir and idol worship = they didnt not believe in divinity of islam? Because that?s not how I understand the term kaffir. Someone can claim to believe in the divinity of islam it doesn?t mean they're not kaffirs.

                          Tell me what does kaffir mean? What?s your understanding of it?

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                            Actions and good deeds are subjective and even if you do good doesn?t mean it?s all good. Let me share an example.
                            I intend to make a cake for my dear friend. I found a recipe and followed it but the cake was disastrous, I had good intentions by the outcome wasn?t good.

                            why do you think kaffir and idol worship = they didnt not believe in divinity of islam? Because that?s not how I understand the term kaffir. Someone can claim to believe in the divinity of islam it doesn?t mean they're not kaffirs.

                            Tell me what does kaffir mean? What?s your understanding of it?

                            As I understand its someone who rejects divinity of quran.

                            Will they go to hell just because they dont believe in quran and god?

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                              As I understand its someone who rejects divinity of quran.

                              Will they go to hell just because they dont believe in quran and god?

                              Actually more than that, they know the truth in them and they try to conceal it (Read 2134 to 163)

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                                Also read 397, 5338-39, 657 and the surrounding verses of them.

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                                  Sorry if i asked many times sister MaryK but you did read the verses and the link i have given to you right? Because it is important to see the whole context.

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                                    Dear Sardar,

                                    I have read the links that were taken from quransmessage

                                    also i would like to know. lets say a person read quran in details, however he doesn find truth in it as he finds some controversial (from his point of view) verses, will he then be considered kafir?

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                                      Dear Sardar,

                                      I have read the links that were taken from quransmessage

                                      also i would like to know. lets say a person read quran in details, however he doesn find truth in it as he finds some controversial (from his point of view) verses, will he then be considered kafir?

                                      No, because he is in doubt so he has to research the Qur'an in a unbiased way, besides Allah (SWTAY) knows what is inside our chests

                                      329
                                      Qul in tukhfoo ma fee sudoorikumaw tubdoohu yaAAlamhu Allahu wayaAAlamu ma fee alssamawatiwama fee al-ardi waAllahu AAalakulli shay-in qadeerun
                                      Say "Whether you hide what is in your chests or you reveal it, God will know." And He knows what is in the heavens and the earth; and God is capable of all things.

                                      Remember, context is the key and it's also important to check the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Plus the controversial verses? Again check the context & the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Be also aware there are people who claim to be unbiased but does have a agenda behind their backs so be careful on who you speak to in a critical & unbiased way. I hope this has answered your question dear sister. P.S you did read the other links right (excluding quranmessage article)

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                                        No, because he is in doubt so he has to research the Qur'an in a unbiased way, besides Allah (SWTAY) knows what is inside our chests

                                        329
                                        Qul in tukhfoo ma fee sudoorikumaw tubdoohu yaAAlamhu Allahu wayaAAlamu ma fee alssamawatiwama fee al-ardi waAllahu AAalakulli shay-in qadeerun
                                        Say "Whether you hide what is in your chests or you reveal it, God will know." And He knows what is in the heavens and the earth; and God is capable of all things.

                                        Remember, context is the key and it's also important to check the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Plus the controversial verses? Again check the context & the original classical arabic text to study it deeply & verify the information. Be also aware there are people who claim to be unbiased but does have a agenda behind their backs so be careful on who you speak to in a critical & unbiased way. I hope this has answered your question dear sister. P.S you did read the other links right (excluding quranmessage article)

                                        what if the person has no doubts and he is 100 percent sure there is no god?

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                                          what if the person has no doubts and he is 100 percent sure there is no god?

                                          How is he 100 percent sure? He assumes that this world is accident and that nothing created everything which has no valid evidence. Plus, no doubts? Then how do you know he has no pre-conceived bias?

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