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Allah is ENERGY

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    You can harvest energy but not God.
    You can control energy but not God.
    You can create energy but not God.

    76.30. You cannot will unless "Energy" wills.

    Except atoms are empty space and there is no "YOU"

    There is "NO GOD (YOU)"

    and what is known as "YOU" is the delusion (dreams)

    1031 Who controls hearing and sight?

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      imrankhawaja
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      You have no idea about Energy in Physics.

      That's all.

      exactly i have no idea but i have a valid and logical thing to think about i.e who is the creator of ENERGY and if you want to ask it in your own method then.

      what is the cause of the EFFECT ( energy)?

      i think you know lot about energy kindly explain me about dark energy scientists apparently failed to understand it yet but rest of the energies they atleast have idea so you can share your knowledge about it. good for readers peace

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work.

        That's it.

        "It does not require many words to speak the TRUTH"

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          imrankhawaja
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          Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work.

          That's it.

          brilliant can we have some examples and tell us little about RED part

          although u can use and get help from physics i dun mind.

          i know i can google it too but wana hear your views?

          God bless you

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

            so who comes first?

            A. Allah

            B. Energy

            A or B?

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              imrankhawaja
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              so who comes first?

              A. Allah

              B. Energy

              A or B?

              so apparently here is the equation

              we are relying our equation based on the factor of TIME?

              who will set the limits of TIME ?

              atleast i see we have two big enemies that can challange GOD.
              energy and time.

              at some point in past these two and lot others were dietes of worship.and THEN ch 112 refutes all those sub gods. new model of God.
              your model is bit old mate lol.

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                What's the point if you cannot decide between A or B?

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                  hawk99
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                  GOD is best described with His 99 attributes,

                  Yep!

                  And sorry, energy is not among them. nope

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    THEN ch 112 refutes all those sub gods.

                    As I said, you have no idea about Energy in Physics.

                    Premise 1 Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earthEVERYTHING. (2435)

                    Premise 2 Allah = Light (metaphor) = Energy

                    Therefore

                    Chapter 112 The Law of Thermodynamics

                    1121 Say "He is ENERGY, One,"

                    1122 "ENERGY is Absolute (matter is 0),"

                    1123 ENERGY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created

                    1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to ENERGY.

                    BUT

                    When he came to the Fire he was called "O Moses. I (FIRE) am your Lord!" (2013)

                    Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.

                    Do you believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in another part of it? (285)

                    Allah = Fire

                    Therefore, 1 (Allah/Energy) NOT EQUAL 0 (matter/you/fire)

                    He creates man from a clingingmagnetic substanceparticles (matter = 0 / empty space). (962)

                    Therefore

                    Say He, Allah/Energy, is One. (1121)

                    1. Energy = 1

                    2. Matter = 0 (empty space)

                    (0 = "We hear, we obey" ... ELSE, deluded / insanity / shirk)

                    There is no reality but ENERGY / ALLAH (1).

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      lol ok so we have atleast these kinds of similar energies.
                      nuclear, kinetic, potential, dark so one is comparable to another how 1124 fits in it.

                      i think whatever u know about physics is just a start of exploring new universes of atoms and stings theory whatever bla bla is just a start i wonder u come to conclusion that FAST seems u know all hidden things about energy(matter) ?

                      Therefore lets put gravity in it

                      Chapter 112 The Law of universal gravitation

                      1121 Say "He is GRAVITY, One,"

                      1122 "GRAVITY is Absolute ,"

                      1123 GRAVITY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created

                      1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to GRAVITY.

                      police

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        What else?

                        Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

                        There is no reality but ENERGY / ALLAH (1).

                        Think ...

                        Okay.

                        so who comes first?

                        A. Allah

                        B. Energy

                        A or B?

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                          Novice
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                          Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

                          Does Allah do work?

                          2117

                          Originator of the heavens and the earth and when He decides a matter He only says BE and it happens.

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                            kaltun
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                            Does Allah do work?

                            2117

                            Originator of the heavens and the earth and when He decides a matter He only says BE and it happens.

                            SLM

                            with do all respect

                            He said, "O Iblis! What prevented you that you (should) prostrate to (one) whom I created with My Hands? Are you arrogant or are you of the exalted ones." Quran 3875 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/38/75/default.htm

                            Do not they see that We created for them from what have made Our hands, cattle, then they (are the) owners? Quran 3671 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/36/71/default.htm

                            may Allah guide us to the straight path

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                              Novice
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                              SLM

                              with do all respect

                              He said, "O Iblis! What prevented you that you (should) prostrate to (one) whom I created with My Hands? Are you arrogant or are you of the exalted ones." Quran 3875 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/38/75/default.htm

                              Do not they see that We created for them from what have made Our hands, cattle, then they (are the) owners? Quran 3671 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/36/71/default.htm

                              Thanks brother for the verses.

                              We need to understand usage of "hands" in a language. For example

                              Afriend ask you for help in some problem. You cannot help him and say "sorry my friend nothing is in my hands so I cannot help you".

                              How do you understand the red part?

                              God bless you.

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                Does Allah do work?

                                2117
                                بَدِيعُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ‌ۖ وَإِذَا قَضَىٰٓ أَمۡرً۬ا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ ۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ

                                Originator of the heavens and the earth and when He decides a matter He only says BE and it happens.

                                of course ...

                                https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49509462_2266135846936327_4640214952144011264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=2ac0f731e234af0ec6dc7ddf1b9ad714&oe=5CC22DE8

                                and He only "says" BE is ENERGY

                                ... so who comes first?

                                A. Allah

                                B. Energy

                                A or B?

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                                  kaltun
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                                  Thanks brother for the verses.

                                  We need to understand usage of "hands" in a language. For example

                                  Afriend ask you for help in some problem. You cannot help him and say "sorry my friend nothing is in my hands so I cannot help you".

                                  How do you understand the red part?

                                  God bless you.

                                  SLM Novice,

                                  i mentioned the verses due your question,

                                  Does Allah do work?

                                  2117

                                  Originator of the heavens and the earth and when He decides a matter He only says BE and it happens.

                                  i dont know if Allah has hands or not , but its mentioned as work / effort ...

                                  and answer to this

                                  Afriend ask you for help in some problem. You cannot help him and say "sorry my friend nothing is in my hands so I cannot help you".

                                  How do you understand the red part?

                                  i am saying i dont have "tools" in my hand to help him.....
                                  or
                                  because of the limited power that i have i cant help him

                                  ??

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    ... so who comes first?

                                    A. Allah

                                    B. Energy

                                    A or B?

                                    where is C (Time).

                                    and before making equation complete it with Time factor.
                                    otherwise it will be the tea without TEA pack, having milk sugar and water but not TEA.

                                    you said WHO come first ? the time u used (First) bring a matter of time

                                    do we know the age of matter?
                                    do we know the age of energy?
                                    do we know the age of TIME?

                                    let say 13.7 billion years ago what was before that ?
                                    what was time before time?

                                    you have not a slight idea about energy as well as God and gravity lol.

                                    have a break have a KiTKat

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                                      imrankhawaja
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                                      Afriend ask you for help in some problem. You cannot help him and say "sorry my friend nothing is in my hands so I cannot help you".

                                      haha same thing once i told to somebody bu different way.

                                      i said while playing cards
                                      ?Everything is in my hand? give two meanings in game of cards.( literal and metaphorical)

                                      but when we say in war type matters then its only mean power/resources/capability etc.

                                      God bless you

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        SLM

                                        with do all respect

                                        He said, "O Iblis! What prevented you that you (should) prostrate to (one) whom I created with My Hands? Are you arrogant or are you of the exalted ones." Quran 3875 https//www.islamawakened.com/quran/38/75/default.htm

                                        with due respect i m stuck again.

                                        with my HANDS.

                                        so basically God created human with the material of his hands at that time God had physical hands and all material of hands of Gods being consumed by humans so God is like ?THAKUR? of movie ?sholay?now lmao

                                        i just remember something.

                                        in shia version of islam when night journey happened. and God meet with muhammad by shaking hand behind the curtain. and on that HAND there was a ring in which ALI mola was written hence Ali = God lol.

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                                          kaltun
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                                          with due respect i m stuck again.

                                          with my HANDS.

                                          so basically God created human with the material of his hands at that time God had physical hands and all material of hands of Gods being consumed by humans so God is like ?THAKUR? of movie ?sholay?now lmao

                                          i just remember something.

                                          in shia version of islam when night journey happened. and God meet with muhammad by shaking hand behind the curtain. and on that HAND there was a ring in which ALI mola was written hence Ali = God lol.

                                          Slm imrankhawaja,

                                          i didnt translate it , i am also giving the link where you can find it ....

                                          but these words are with my hands right ??

                                          feet of an elephant is way different then ours, still we call them feets ??
                                          so again , i dont know the shape of Allah has, i know we cant imagine it , but if Allah says with his hands , so who am i to say different ??

                                          pls if your trans is better , then post it ....

                                          May Allah guide us to the strait path

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