Allah is ENERGY
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But everything is within "reason (the LordLaw of Cause and Effect)" because Allah is not crazy (illogical) ...
Pharaoh said, What is this LordLaw of the Universe?
Moses answered "The LordLaw of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them (ie. LordLaw of Nature / Energy), if you want to be certain (reasoning)".
(2623-24)
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Peace Mahdi.
Would you agree first that Allah is just the Arabic word for GOD.
Also do you agree there are different types of energy? Which one is Allah?
Now we can define GOD from Qoran Unique, , Absolute One( i.e not comparable), creates, intelligent designer, ...etc.
Explain more about your reasoning please,just to clarify for us?
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
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But everything is within "reason (the LordLaw of Cause and Effect)" because Allah is not crazy (illogical) ...
Pharaoh said, What is this LordLaw of the Universe?
Moses answered "The LordLaw of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them (ie. LordLaw of Nature / Energy), if you want to be certain (reasoning)".
(2623-24)
I thought you are in the capacity to reason beyond reasoning?
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I thought you are in the capacity to reason beyond reasoning?
There is no such thing as "to reason beyond reasoning" ..
Everything about The LordLaw of Cause & Effect, ie. "reasoning".
'Miracles are not contrary to nature but only contrary to what we know about nature. ' St. Augustine
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Would you agree first that Allah is just the Arabic word for GOD.
No. There is NO GOD and Allah mean One who is not illah
One who is not a deity/god for adoration or worship.
I need no provisions from them, nor do I need them to give food. (5157)
Also do you agree there are different types of energy?
What's the difference? It is ENERGY.
different types of energy? Which one is Allah?
Allah is the ONE ENERGY
Allah is the Light "of EVERYTHING"/1121-2. (2435)
ie. the Energy without "LIGHT UPON LIGHT (energy upon energy)"
Light upon Light. Allah guides to His (ONE) Light. (2435)
All creations are the "LIGHT UPON LIGHT (energy upon energy)"
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Your only existence is "consciousness" for Allah/Energy.
Are you?
You cannot will, unless Allah wills. (7630)
He who has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from (#MotherEarth) clay (unawareness); then produced his seed from an extract of base fluid (unawareness); then formed him and breathed His Ruh (ENERGY) into him and (only then) gave you hearing (consciousness), sight (consciousness) and hearts (consciousness). What little thanks (for "Consciousness" to Energy/ LordLaw of Cause & Effect/ EcoLogic) you show (ie. being ILLOGICAL, unnatural, insanity = shirk)! (327-9)
Who controls hearing and sight? (1031)
Who?
Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he's destroying is this God he's worshiping!
Which of you is mad? (686)
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Hi Kaltun?
We cannot claim that God has made human or Jin to the shape of His?. We cannot also negate it? Coz it?s a mystery until perceive it and see with naked eyes? But, we humans have been sort of knowledge and freedom to think and guidance and His books? That?s only a possible views? not more than that?
Yes.. nothing is equal to God? it?s very clear and a well known fact? A tiny fish in the sea and mammoth shark also fish? Are they equal but have they got the features? God compares Himself?. Who is better Judge than Allah? Who is Merciful than Allah? etc.. with whom he is comparing with men and Jinn? In the First place why God should compare HIM with Men and Jinn? Is it coz HE is mightier and He is not lowly like us, but we are just HIS creation?And most importantly He didn?t give HIS secrets to anyone and He doesn?t share Kingship with anyone?
As per Genesis, I don?t know how far the translations are correct..? But God says OUR image not My image?suppose if God created the Adam or even the Jinns to His image, it doesn?t mean we are equal to HIM.. No way? Does it? His attributes are never equal and will never be.. That?s why HE is Lord? After all the most closely taken creatures of HIS is MEN and JIN and They both will be in Janna and will Suffer in Hell.. These are very crucial factors to deduce? Isn?t Prophet Ibrahim be His close intimate?. What is it?
God bless us with what is right.. -
Peace Mahdi.
What is the Arabic word for GOD -English- Or Dieu- French-...?I see ,there is no god except Allah. I agree here.
I just wonder why the word worship comes to it. We are translating the one word Allah in English, surely it cannot be a sentence?
Also, just because people worship GOD , it does not mean there is no ilah for worship. GOD of course is not needy of anything, but some people insist on worshipping GOD anyway.. I also agree GOD does not need us to worship or do anything for Him(No gender).
My understanding of energy, light,electricity, gas,neutrons,...are all creations like atoms, things, humans,...
And this is where you and I disagree. But that is fine.
I get the rest of what you are trying to convey about respect for the environment and all creations.
GOD bless you.
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What is the Arabic word for GOD -English- Or Dieu- French-...?
I see ,there is no god except Allah. I agree here.
I just wonder why the word worship comes to it. We are translating the one word Allah in English, surely it cannot be a sentence?
"Signs" can be translated ...
Also, just because people worship GOD , it does not mean there is no ilah for worship. GOD of course is not needy of anything, but some people insist on worshipping GOD anyway.. I also agree GOD does not need us to worship or do anything for Him(No gender).
My understanding of energy, light,electricity, gas,neutrons,...are all creations like atoms, things, humans,...
And this is where you and I disagree.Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.
Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.
Thus, it is Allah.
I get the rest of what you are trying to convey about respect for the environment and all creations.
GOD bless you.
PeaceGOD bless you.
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brother GL hes same like you rotfl yay his needle is stuck here
ENERGY = capacity of doing work.
i remeber once somebody was saying 1 gram of coacine got 3 hour capacity of work so logically there is some kind of energy in coacaine what make people workable.lol
whatever you will say he will come with this ultimate equation invented by him.
GL u have a match now JK lol and surprisingly my post number 3636 what a pair post ! even in quran 36 36 talking about pairs if im not mistaken. hmm
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ENERGY = capacity of doing work.
i remeber once somebody was saying 1 gram of coacine got 3 hour capacity of work so logically there is some kind of energy in coacaine what make people workable.lol
whatever you will say he will come with this ultimate equation invented by him.
No... I did not invent the definition of energy but the scientists..
So what is your answer to our issue?
who comes first?
A. Allah
B. Energy
A or B?
Trolling is not an argument...
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Peace Imran.
Coincidence or what ? like number 19 for me!
Brother Mahdi has advanced to "no GOD for worship",but still stuck with Qoran?I am still trying to make out the human logic, we think we are clever and our logic is good ,but most of the time it is.-Hesitant and confused-
I hope you stay with Qoran at least brother, I have seen numerous members give up on it and on Islam to GOD and have abandoned"all gogmatic views" like they put it.
Their clever logic has won the day for them. They abandoned GOD and anything to do with GOD .
Our rebellious logic always tries to argue against GOD s logic by instinctGOD demands "Samina Wa Atahna"-hear and obey- . Our logic demands rebellion and arrogance.
But we are who we are at the end of the day and I accept that . Everyone should be their own character.
Tomorrow at GOD s ,we are either on the same side or on opposite sides.
If we are on the same side ,I hope we are with GOD and not on the other side .If we are on opposite sides, there is no need for "I told you so" from the one saved as we are our own reckoners here in this life.
Time will tell brother and loyalties still can change or consolidate.
GOD bless you.
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No... I did not invent the definition of energy but the scientists..
NO what i am saying is you invent definition of God with the help of ENERGY provided to you by computer. lol
no scientist in my life i see claiming God is energy.
scientists also invent definitions of all other energies what u are skipping to define as demi-gods or parts/sections of God?.
look things are not clear from ur side..So what is your answer to our issue?
A or B?my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..
you are not telling me anything about TIME factor? ok lets skip this part if u are willing to ..
are us asking what comes first (Allah) A ? or (energy) B ?
for this experiment you need to provide me parts of both subjects. lets see what we GET.
experiment on B is possible ? (yes)
experiment on A is possible ? ( you give me answer for this).then we ll proceed talk. and tell me some details of your question like TIME factor plz what is the place of time in it ?
God bless you
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Peace Imran.
Coincidence or what ? like number 19 for me!NOT a coincidence this time TBH lol rotfl yay
i just noticed the 19 in my last post the value of second and then i see the value of second in your post give me multiple of 19 its 57 ... wao .. groupI hope you stay with Qoran at least brother, I have seen numerous members give up on it and on Islam to GOD and have abandoned"all gogmatic views" like they put it.
i will start a new thread when i finish doing my on going research and study on the books comes before 1000 ad and the best ten books got Quran and Gospels in it.. as well as veda , book by budda etc..
we ll see according to the merits of their time/space what they got and where they were wrong as per our recent discoveries..
some inspiring books are there for everyone for every taste like some books from early greek and egyptian scientists and philosphers..
as well as quran we should also study those books too its better to explore knowledge and understand what a wonderful God spread there for us..
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I am still trying to make out the human logic, we think we are clever and our logic is good ,but most of the time it is.-Hesitant and confused-
Majority of human think that they're right, pious and others are false and evil.
It need a great swallowing of pride to see what's wrong, false and evil within ourselves.
Yet that is actually what will bring the most benefits to ourselves..
And only very handful of human able to do so.."Arrogance and ignorance goes hand in hand"
-- Holier than Thou by James HI hope you stay with Qoran at least brother, I have seen numerous members give up on it and on Islam to GOD and have abandoned"all gogmatic views" like they put it.
Their clever logic has won the day for them. They abandoned GOD and anything to do with GOD .
Our rebellious logic always tries to argue against GOD s logic by instinctGOD demands "Samina Wa Atahna"-hear and obey- . Our logic demands rebellion and arrogance.
Tomorrow at GOD s ,we are either on the same side or on opposite sides.
If we are on the same side ,I hope we are with GOD and not on the other side .LOL..
You are proposing as if a "book titled Quran" = God.God = God
God is all powerful, all controlling and everything depends on It.
Including Energy, Matter and Time.. let alone a puny being called human.God is not 'arguing', fighting against anything within this universe, including human.
Nothing can rebel or even act against God, nothing can abandon God, it's an impossibility and illogicality.
Everything act in accordance to God's plan.As such God is NOT on "one side" that It's fighting "the enemy / rival of that side".
God is on ALL side ALL the time.I'll be blunt to say that the view that God is a human, God can be angry / disappointed, God is fighting / warring against something (such as The Devil), God has wives, sons and daughters (since God is a human), God is jealous of another Gods thus he fought wars with believers of other Gods, is the traditional view of polytheistic tradition. Where they see God as a deity acting as if It's a human king...
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NO what i am saying is you invent definition of God with the help of ENERGY provided to you by computer. lol
no scientist in my life i see claiming God is energy.
scientists also invent definitions of all other energies what u are skipping to define as demi-gods or parts/sections of God?.
look things are not clear from ur side..Read the syahadat, "NO GOD"
You have GOD, I don't...
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No God
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Only Energy / Light / Allah
Scientists made the same claim, everything is ENERGY.
my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..
you are not telling me anything about TIME factor? ok lets skip this part if u are willing to ..
are us asking what comes first (Allah) A ? or (energy) B ?
for this experiment you need to provide me parts of both subjects. lets see what we GET.
experiment on B is possible ? (yes)
experiment on A is possible ? ( you give me answer for this).then we ll proceed talk. and tell me some details of your question like TIME factor plz what is the place of time in it ?
God bless you
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Re Allah is ENERGY
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Quote from imrankhawaja on January 08, 2019, 101331 AM
where is C (Time).and before making equation complete it with Time factor.
otherwise it will be the tea without TEA pack, having milk sugar and water but not TEA.you said WHO come first ? the time u used (First) bring a matter of time
do we know the age of matter?
do we know the age of energy?
do we know the age of TIME?let say 13.7 billion years ago what was before that ?
what was time before time?you have not a slight idea about energy as well as God and gravity lol.
have a break have a KiTKat
How does that change the FACT THAT
(the ISSUE)
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 07, 2019, 012019 PM
Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 08, 2019, 042511 AM
and He only "says" BE is ENERGY
Even "HE" (existence) without "BE" is ENERGY
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 07, 2019, 023920 PM
1123 ENERGY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to ENERGY. (ie. energy can be transformed)
Your argument doesn't make sense at all, logic failed or #strawman.
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When will you counter this argument?
Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.
Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.
Thus, it is Allah.
stop trolling and making arguments with your #strawman
while the actual argument remains untouched....
ISSUE who comes first?
A. Allah
B. Energy
A or B?
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Peace Jafar.
I have been saying this same thing like you here, QuoteI'll be blunt to say that the view that God is a human, God can be angry / disappointed, God is fighting / warring against something (such as The Devil), God has wives, sons and daughters (since God is a human), God is jealous of another Gods thus he fought wars with believers of other Gods, is the traditional view of polytheistic tradition. Where they see God as a deity acting as if It's a human king...
I was proposing that GOD authored Qoran or Qoran is the word/instruction from GOD according to my understanding and findings . But never what you assumed brother jafar.
Actually I was also proposing freedom of choice, to choose your god.
You know Qoran gives you your choice ,mine and everybody else s, Go on brother study it and see for yourself if that is true?
GOD bless you.
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my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..
you are not telling me anything about TIME factor?
E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME
The Issue
Who comes first?
A. Allah?
B. Energy?
A or B?
When...
Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.
Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.
Thus, it is Allah.
OR
Is Allah with disabilities?
If yes, what is there other than ENERGY ("the ability"?
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mr Intelligent do u even understand what i am asking ?
ok you tell me when in (timespace) ENERGY created the TIME?
energy first or TIME ?
you are doing strawman again and again example.
you said scientists made claim everyTHING is energy ?
so you interpret there claim to everyTHING is GOD?
3rd point
you said actual claim of u never touched by anyone yet?infact its not only touched but it also get raped lmao only if u can feel it rotfl
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mr Intelligent do u even understand what i am asking ?
Of course and...
How does "TIME" change the FACT
THAT ENERGY IS THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE CHANGE?
There is no Allah / no change / no movement of anything at all before TIME?
see? #strawman or clear signs for logic failed
and...
ok you tell me when in (timespace) ENERGY created the TIME?
energy first or TIME ?
you are doing strawman again and again example.
you said scientists made claim everyTHING is energy ?
so you interpret there claim to everyTHING is GOD?
3rd point
you said actual claim of u never touched by anyone yet?infact its not only touched but it also get raped lmao only if u can feel it rotfl
Do you realize that you're empty space (atoms) and cannot scientifically prove your own existence? being delusional (dreams / consciousness)?
ELSE, please prove atoms are not empty space. Bring scientific facts to prove your existence...
and..
And are you worshipping God with disabilities?
E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME
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Is Allah with disabilities?If yes, what is there other than ENERGY ("the ability"?
What kind of God is that?
God who CANNOT CREATES ? (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)
You logic is funny.
Who comes first?
A. Allah?
B. Energy?
A or B?