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Allah is ENERGY

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    main mission, or purpose of life is...

    SAY He, Allah/Energy/Sunnatullah, is ONE. (1121)

    ie. you are 0 (die before death)

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    die, before it is too late.

    But you cannot will (1+1+1+..), unless Allah wills (1 = ENERGY = SUNNATULLAH). (7630)

    ie. you are 0 (die before death)

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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      main mission, or purpose of life is...

      you're made of atoms, and thus be an atoms (0)...

      we hear NATURE/SUNNATULLAH/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN
      we obey NATURE/SUNNATULLAH/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN

      don't be delusional...

      ie. being arrogant to the SUNNATULLAH / LordLaw of NATURE / EcoLogic ... ie. Kafir of the Sunnatullah / Kafir of the Way of Allah / Kafir of the LordLaw of Nature.

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      As for those who deny Our "NATURAL" Signs (Sunnatullah, Way of Allah, LordLaw of Nature, ENERGY, Mathematical Pattern, EcoLogic) and are arrogant regarding them, the Gates of Heaven will not be opened for them, and they will not enter the Garden until a camel goes through a needle´s eye. That is how We repay the evildoers. (740)

      VALIDITY? + TRUTH? = SOUNDNESS?
      Nature + Nature = Nature (Paradise)
      Nature + Unnature = Unnature (Hell)
      Unnature + Nature = Unnature (Hell)
      Unnature + Unnature = Unnature (Hell)

      Half truth, whole lies...

      On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full (with Kafir of the SUNNATULLAH/ LordLaw of Nature/ Energy / EcoLogic)? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

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        imrankhawaja
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        "...we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. .."

        255 And recall when you said, ?O Moses! We will not believe in you unless we see God face to face!? Thereupon thunder struck you as you were looking on.

        when did they see GOD in person?
        linking 254 with 256 giving more accurate picture

        254 When Moses returned, he said to his people, ?O my people! You have hurt your own ?self? by worshiping the calf. So, turn in repentance to your Maker and kill your ego (rebellious mentality). This will be best for you in the Sight of your Maker.?

        killing is metaphorical here in 254

        256 Then We revived you, and raised you from a dead to a living nation so that you might show gratitude.

        perfect pair of metaphors of life and death in shape of travelling towards light from darkness. they have an amazing thing called calf same like u have amazing thing called energy.

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          255 And recall when you said, �O Moses! We will not believe in you unless we see God face to face!� Thereupon thunder struck you as you were looking on.

          when did they see GOD in it ?

          linking 254 with 256 giving more accurate picture

          254 When Moses returned, he said to his people, �O my people! You have hurt your own �self� by worshiping the calf. So, turn in repentance to your Maker and kill your ego (rebellious mentality). This will be best for you in the Sight of your Maker.�

          killing is metaphorical here in 254

          256 Then We revived you, and raised you from a dead to a living nation so that you might show gratitude.

          perfect pair of metaphors of life and death in shape of travelling towards light from darkness. they have an amazing thing called calf same like u have amazing thing called energy.

          you're free to have your own interpretation...

          there is no significance in it because...

          my interpretation, all dead people (experiencing death) are qualified to see Allah.

          Every self will be tasting death. (3185)

          Take off your sandals. (2012)

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            Do not suppose that those killed in the Way of Allah are dead. No indeed! They are alive and well provided for in the very presence of their Lord, (3169)

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            (flow as life flows = SOLAT = align our nature to NATURE, 1+0=1)

            ie. live forever in this reality, "in the very presence of Allah"

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              good_logic
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              Peace brother Mahdi.
              I opened my computer to reply to your post but it was mostly not there. I looked at my chair and it was mostly not there either. This is when I fell onto the floor but I was not hurt because I was mostly not there !
              However if this post reaches you then
              ?There are only two worlds - your world, which is the real world, and other worlds, the fantasy. Worlds like this are worlds of the human imagination their reality, or lack of reality, is not important.
              What is important is that they are there. these worlds provide an alternative. Provide an escape. Provide a threat. Provide a dream, and power; provide refuge, and pain. They give your world meaning. They do not exist; and thus they are all that matters. ?
              Neil Gaiman, The Books of Magic
              Or
              ?There will come a time when all of us are dead. All of us. There will come a time when there are no human beings remaining to remember that anyone ever existed or that our species ever did anything.
              There will be no one left to remember Aristotle or Cleopatra, let alone you. Everything that we did and built and wrote and thought and discovered will be forgotten and all of this will have been for naught.
              Maybe that time is coming soon and maybe it is millions of years away, but even if we survive the collapse of our sun, we will not survive forever.
              There was time before organisms experienced consciousness, and there will be time after. And if the inevitability of human oblivion worries you, I encourage you to ignore it. God/energy/Dieu... knows that?s what everyone else does.?
              John Green, The Fault in Our Stars
              Or
              ?La plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas."

              ("The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.&quot?
              Charles Baudelaire, Paris Spleen
              GOD bless you.
              Peace.

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                I speaks about scientific fact..

                Everything is ENERGY (ALLAH).
                and your only existence is consciousness...

                "Everything is energy ... This is not philosophy. This is physics." ~ Albert Einstein

                • delusional. n . characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

                Which of you is mad? (686)

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                  good_logic
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                  Peace Mahdi.
                  And this is also Science

                  Wendelstein 7-X (W7-X) is tipped to be one of the game-changing designs that could make commercial nuclear fusion reactors a reality. The test so far has been extremely positive and during the latest round of experimentation, it broke several records.
                  W7-X's latest run started after some important adjustments. Since last September, the reactor has been fitted with new and snazzy interior cladding made of graphite. This allowed W7-X to contain a hotter and denser plasma. Details are published in Nature Physics.

                  W7-X is a stellarator, one of the two main approaches used to construct a functional nuclear reactor. It is shaped like a twisted doughnut. Magnets are wrapped around the stellarator to keep the plasma confined. The machine was able to take the plasma to a temperature of 40 million degrees Celsius (72 million degrees Fahrenheit). The plasma was kept fusing for up to 26 seconds, a significant increase from the six seconds of the first run. By keeping the plasma in the chamber for longer it got the world record for fusion production using a stellarator.
                  ?This is an excellent value for a device of this size, achieved, moreover, under realistic conditions, i.e. at a high temperature of the plasma ions,? co-author Professor Thomas Sunn Pedersen said in a statement. ?First experience with the new wall elements are highly positive. This makes us optimistic for our further work.?

                  The goal of the project is to make stellarators commercially viable. To do so, it is necessary to create a plasma that exceeds 100 million degrees Celsius (180 million degrees Fahrenheit). At that temperature, the hydrogen from the plasma will convert into helium releasing more energy than is required to heat up the plasma.
                  This thing is creating energy
                  A bigger god is creating your god.
                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    What's the difference?

                    It doesn't change the fact that everthing is ENERGY... no?

                    At that temperature, the hydrogen from the plasma will convert into helium releasing more energy than is required to heat up the plasma.
                    This thing is creating energy

                    It is the transformation of Energy.

                    Basic science/law of thermodynamics, Energy cannot be created.

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                      good_logic
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                      Peace Mahdi.
                      No difference?
                      Some energy that is created now did not exist before like from the machine I mentioned.
                      You say it has existed before the machine created it? Let s have your science evidence for it.

                      I say if the machine that created that energy did not exist before, the energy that resulted from the machine did not exist also. It also tells me the energy that we have is not complete since we can add to it.
                      GOD bless you.
                      Peace.

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        You don't even know BASIC SCIENCE.

                        • Energy cannot be created

                        • Energy cannot be destroyed

                        • Energy can be transformed

                        I'm not to argue over this.

                        Peace.

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                          good_logic
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                          Peace Mahdi.
                          We got there, energy CAN be transformed
                          But I know this
                          Allah CANNOT be transformed by machines.
                          Hence Allah does not equal energy.
                          And likewise I am not going to argue over this.
                          GOD bless you
                          Peace.

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            so what is the machine?

                            is it not ENERGY?

                            and...

                            When I have formed him and breathed/TRANSFORMED My Ruh/ENERGY into him

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                            fall down in prostration in front of him! Then the angels prostrated all together, every one of them! (1529-30) ... and IT IS NOT SHIRK!

                            Creator = "capacity for doing work"

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                              good_logic
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                              Peace Mahdi.
                              Machines =Allah then?
                              Clouds, thunder lightning also create energy.
                              Well here we go again,arguing, I am tempted like you did

                              He is the One who shows you the lightning as a source of fear, as well as hope, and He initiates the loaded clouds.

                              The thunder praises His glory, and so do the angels, out of reverence for Him. He sends the lightning bolts, which strike in accordance with His will. Yet, they argue about God, though His power is awesome.

                              ? Say, "Why then do you set up besides Him MACHINES who do not possess any power to benefit or harm even themselves?" Say, "Is the blind the same as the seer? Is darkness the same as the light?" Have they found MACHINES besides God who created creations similar to His creations, to the point of not distinguishing the two creations? Say, "God is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Supreme."

                              Machines may be energy but Allah is certainly not any machine. I hope you see the difference.
                              Otherwise everything that has the capacity to do work will be Allah!!!
                              If still in doubt,, well keep arguing.
                              GOD bless you.
                              Peace.

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                • How do you explain verse 1529?

                                • What is the definition of ENERGY in Physics? Can Allah create?

                                • What is there other than Energy? Please bring scientific proof//fact.

                                Your argument Allah IS NOT THE CREATOR?

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                                  good_logic
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                                  Peace Mahdi.
                                  My argument is simply Allah is not energy that we know. Allah cannot be His own creation.
                                  Whatever is created by Allah s creations cannot be Allah. Energy is created/transformed(as we agree now) by machines as well, therefore energy is not Allah.
                                  God bless you.
                                  Peace.

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                                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                    That's not even an argument.

                                    It is DOGMA.

                                    How do you explain verse 1529?
                                    What is the definition of ENERGY in Physics? Can Allah create?
                                    What is there other than Energy? Please bring scientific proof//fact.

                                    Your argument Allah IS NOT THE CREATOR?

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                                      good_logic
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                                      Peace Mahdi.
                                      You explained your argument and I explained mine.
                                      Now we have to leave our arguments for others to disect . We have to agree to disagree then.
                                      Not a problem for me.
                                      Thank you and GOD bless you.
                                      Peace.

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        Not a problem at all. handshake

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                                          imrankhawaja
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                                          What's the difference?

                                          It doesn't change the fact that everthing is ENERGY... no?

                                          BIG difference.

                                          there is energy in everything what a human can percieve.

                                          THE things like aliens, unicorns, and hidden things got a different type of energy what we have no knowledge of but the energy what we see probably a creation from that energy.

                                          but GOD is not a ?thing?

                                          hence God is not energy

                                          energy is one of the marvels of God as well as other marvels above than ? energy? what we have no knowledge off.

                                          you are playing active voice & passive voice with energy lol this person is talented.although i appreciate ur talent already but its a conflict with book called ?quran? thats what all i m saying my lovely brother i have provide u information as per my knowledge we talked alot like 15 pages. i think its time to finish this with agree to disagree.

                                          God bless u or energy bless u group

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