Did People in Bible Times Really Live So Long?

NK

Peace all,
The Bible book of Genesis speaks of seven men who lived more than 900 years, all of them being born prior to the Flood of Noah?s day. They were Adam, Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Jared, Methuselah, and Noah. (Genesis 55-27; 929) Many of these men may be unfamiliar to most people, but all of them were among the first ten generations in human history. Methuselah is well-known for having lived the longest?a record 969 years!

The Bible mentions at least another 25 individuals who also reached ages beyond what is common today. Some of them lived 300, 400, even 700 or more years. (Genesis 528-31; 1110-25) Is that really true? or Was Time Measured Differently?

Thanks,
NK

good_logic

If anything, we live longer now than they did in the past.
I see it as misinterpretation/different periods, like we do with "days" mentioned in bible and Qoran.(GOD created samawat and Ard in 6 days?)
GOD bless you.
Peace.

si_di

If they lived such a Long period then thats against shar? Allah.

the oldest Person we know is 120years old but average People live maximum 80 yaers more or less.

if they lived hundreds years then they are not humans

NK

Quran also mentioned in Chapter 29 verse 14 Noah (PBUH) lived among his people 950 years -)

si_di

@NK

it seems so to be.

On another Quote it says minus 50years from a Long period of time explain by a number that People understand that this area was longway inhabited by People.

So 50years in that part but after the Flood when do not know how old Noah became.

My two Cent to that

good_logic

Peace NK.
It seems some translations/interpretations are saying Qoran says Noah lived 950 years!
Qoran says Noah stayed with his people 1000 Sanatin Minus(Illa) 50 Aaman.

Why did Qoran use Sanatin for 1000 and Aaman for 50 ? That needs to be sorted before we come to the total number of years.
Also "Stayed with his people" needs sorting.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

NK

Peace good logic,

What is the correct interpretation?.

Thanks,
NK

Jafar

Peace all,
The Bible book of Genesis speaks of seven men who lived more than 900 years, all of them being born prior to the Flood of Noah?s day. They were Adam, Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Jared, Methuselah, and Noah. (Genesis 55-27; 929) Many of these men may be unfamiliar to most people, but all of them were among the first ten generations in human history. Methuselah is well-known for having lived the longest?a record 969 years!

The Bible mentions at least another 25 individuals who also reached ages beyond what is common today. Some of them lived 300, 400, even 700 or more years. (Genesis 528-31; 1110-25) Is that really true? or Was Time Measured Differently?

Thanks,
NK

Quran also mentioned in Chapter 29 verse 14 Noah (PBUH) lived among his people 950 years -)

Bingo rotfl

It's not uncommon to find tradition / culture who wrote a story that their past heroes, kings, deities lived to such extreme long age.
The semitic traditions is a continuation / branch of Sumerian / Akadian tradition which also listed their past heroes of have lived to such extreme long age.

Enmen Luana 43,200 years
Kalibum 960 years
Zuqaqip 900 years

Here's the list of longevity myths from all around the world..
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_myths

Has there been an evidence of human who have lived to such long age?
The answer is NONE, Zero, Nada...

Through revelation of DNA and genetics we now know that aging within any living organism is a well engineered and designed process.
Everytime the human body cells regenerate (split), it keeps an internal counter of how many times it has splitted before.
And after some threshold it will start to mutate to some extent that some of the cells will run amok and caused damage such as cancers..
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayflick_limit

It's all decided for us. Who wants to live forever?
-- Brian May

good_logic

Peace NK.

From my understanding Qoran wanted to convey the two periods of time of Satatin and Aaman as well as both numbers 1000 and 50. for us to investigate why?
We know why Qoran uses the numbers. The mathematical structure is such that all the numbers mentioned are counted and conform to 19 divisibility..
As for the periods it is to do with the people of lot up to the flood. In this case I do not know exactly why ,but I am of the opinion that sanat and Aaman in the verse depict different periods of time. i.e a sanat in this case might not be equal to Aaaman.

Now about Noah s age ,I think like all of us humans has a maximum age around the hundred or so.
I believe it is irrelevant to know Noah s age. The verse does intend to give us the age of Noah otherwise GOD would have said directly that Noah lived ...years, but did not.
So, in short I do not know how many years Noah lived, nor do I think it is important for the message .
GOD bless you.
Peace.

NK

I think (i could be wrong) in chapter 17 verse 12, Sinatin means a day and in Chapter 10 verse 5, Sinatin means month. If you divide 1000 to 12(months) = 83 and then minus 50 Aaum(years) which gives you 33 years, Noah lived among his people. Like i said it is just my interpretation and i could be wrong.

Thanks,
Nk

si_di

Peace NK,

dont make it so difficult with calculations

1000 sinatin=Long period

In the area where i live the youth is talking like that , if they date each other and one is late they exaggerate the Situation by saying i?ve waited 500years for you ,meaning Maybe 15 or half an hour.

and 50 ?man is the duration with his people till the deluge happend.

there is a vers in quran who is talking about the feeding of about should take two years ,i bet there is the use of ?man too, as i am sure ?aman is used when it comes to human laws and humans in particular whereas for history and celestial calculation sanat is used.

salam

hawk99

The Bible mentions at least another 25 individuals who also reached ages beyond what is common today. Some of them lived 300, 400, even 700 or more years. (Genesis 528-31; 1110-25) Is that really true? or Was Time Measured Differently?

Peace NK, there is no archaeological evidence of people with such lifespans,
to the contrary people today live longer as Bro good logic points out.

Once again these stories are not to be taken literally. The story is not about
Noah's age. It's Allah's guidance that is being conveyed, what do you learn
from the story of Noah?

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them
a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.

But We saved him and the companions of the ship, and We made it a sign
for the worlds.

And these parables We present to the people, but none will understand
them except those of knowledge.

peace

si_di

@hawk99

salam,maybe u r Aware that i opened a thread where i was asking this Question About the sign,well the a lot of Stories similar to that of Noah in the scriptures or in the quran .But it isn?t said we made this a sign like Noahs Story.

What is a sign?

peace

Jafar

What is a sign?

This is the sign..

Through revelation of DNA and genetics we now know that aging within any living organism is a well engineered and designed process.
Everytime the human body cells regenerate (split), it keeps an internal counter of how many times it has splitted before.
And after some threshold it will start to mutate to some extent that some of the cells will run amok and caused damage such as cancers..
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayflick_limit

It's all decided for us. Who wants to live forever?
-- Brian May

Everything has it's life cycle in this universe.. it's all as designed...
Religion, Holy Books, Nationality, Language, Species, Planet, Star, Galaxy.. it all goes through the lifecycle and will meet it's death at the end...

Your body, your identity, your religion, your nationality, your ethnicity even your name is not who you really are.
It will wither and go away, as designed...
Don't be too attached to them...

si_di

@Jafar
salam,

Yes,but i just aked what is it with Noah and the Story to become a sign?sign is only used in a few Story that made them different from others.

what i want to Point out is quranictalking for sign is to be know from People outside the scripture .So when it Comes to say "sign" then People will see that sign without reading the holy scriptures.

Noon_waalqalami

From my understanding Qoran wanted to convey the two periods of time of Satatin and Aaman as well as both numbers 1000 and 50. for us to investigate why?
We know why Qoran uses the numbers. The mathematical structure is such that all the numbers mentioned are counted and conform to 19 divisibility..

Peace, yes investigate (1736) nothing with 19 infatuation and not 950 (separate terms used).

thousand sanatin (solar based system ? feminine noun)
fifty man (lunar based system ? masculine noun)

2914 and surely sent we of noah of to folk his so stay among them thousand sanatin except fifty man/year (lunar) of so seizes them the deluge and they were unjustly

these are same terms

mun/year (lunar masculine noun)
sinina/years (lunar masculine pl. noun)

1 937 man/year (lunar) of
2 3114 mayni/year two (lunar)
3 1242 bida/several (i.e. 3 to 9) sinina/years (lunar)
4, 5, 6 ?
7 1247 saba/seven sinina/years (lunar)
8, 9 ?

10, 20, 30, 40 ...
50 2914 fifty man/year (lunar) of
60, 70, 80, 90 ...

100 2259 hundred min/year (lunar)
200 ?
300 1825 three hundred sinna/years (lunar)
400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 ?

system (solar based)
526 forty sanatan
2914 thousand sanatin
704 fifty thousand sanatin

system (lunar based)
1247 said thou cultivating seven sinina/years (lunar masculine pl. noun) usual of so what harvest you so leave it in corn husk its except little of from what thou eating

1249 furthermore approached from after such mun/year (lunar masculine noun) in it are given relief the humankind and in it squeezing (fruit, etc. to extract juices or oils)

Noon_waalqalami

there is a vers in quran who is talking about the feeding of about should take two years

peace -- it's within or less than two years else equations don't work....

3114 and separation his in/within (< less than) mayni/year two (lunar)

4615 and carry his and separation his thirtieth shahran/moon cycle of until when reach vigor his (maturity age) and reach forty sanatan

p = pregnancy time (variable)
w = weaning time (variable)

w < 709 days {3114 (24 x (lunar months) = 708.73 days}

886 days ? p < 709 days {4615 30 x (lunar months) = 885.92 days}
p = 886 days ? 709 days = 177+ days (5.99+ lunar months)

https//www.verywell.com/worlds-smallest-preemies-2748663

http//www.newhealthguide.org/Longest-Pregnancy.html

30 shr = pregnancy + weaning
(days) days/mts days/mts

886 = 179/6 + 707/23.9 (Rumasia and Hiba pre-mature pregnancy)
886 = 207/7 + 679/23
886 = 236/8 + 650/22
886 = 266/9 + 620/21 (average pregnancy)
886 = 295/10 + 591/20
886 = 325/11 + 561/19
886 = 354/12 + 532/18
886 = 375/12.7 + 511/17.3 (baby Penny longest recorded pregnancy)

Therefore, babies born premature need more weaning time while those born late need less.

good_logic

Peace Noon.
Just a simple answer as fact or not a fact

The Quran mentions 30 different whole numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50, 000, & 100, 000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19x8534.

Remember not really debatable, either true or false?
Even if you think it is a coincidence!
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Noon_waalqalami

The Quran mentions 30 different whole numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50, 000, & 100, 000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19x8534.

Remember not really debatable, either true or false?
Even if you think it is a coincidence!

peace, no coincidence hunting hiding 18/19 (95%) failures.

162146 = 2 ? 17 ? 19 ? 251

yes, so what has to do with topic and how many below, 14?

2234 arbaata ashhurin waashran

NewFrenzy

Peace, yes investigate (1736) nothing with 19 infatuation and not 950 (separate terms used).

thousand sanatin (solar based system ? feminine noun)
fifty man (lunar based system ? masculine noun)

2914 and surely sent we of noah of to folk his so stay among them thousand sanatin except fifty man/year (lunar) of so seizes them the deluge and they were unjustly

these are same terms

mun/year (lunar masculine noun)
sinina/years (lunar masculine pl. noun)

1 937 man/year (lunar) of
2 3114 mayni/year two (lunar)
3 1242 bida/several (i.e. 3 to 9) sinina/years (lunar)
4, 5, 6 ?
7 1247 saba/seven sinina/years (lunar)
8, 9 ?

10, 20, 30, 40 ...
50 2914 fifty man/year (lunar) of
60, 70, 80, 90 ...

100 2259 hundred min/year (lunar)
200 ?
300 1825 three hundred sinna/years (lunar)
400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 ?

system (solar based)
526 forty sanatan
2914 thousand sanatin
704 fifty thousand sanatin

system (lunar based)
1247 said thou cultivating seven sinina/years (lunar masculine pl. noun) usual of so what harvest you so leave it in corn husk its except little of from what thou eating

1249 furthermore approached from after such mun/year (lunar masculine noun) in it are given relief the humankind and in it squeezing (fruit, etc. to extract juices or oils)

Is this opposite of what your saying

And indeed We had sent Noah towards his nation;

Whereupon he lived among them for a thousand lunar years save fifty solar years.

For reason/in consequence of contradicting him flood seized them while they were persistently evil doers.

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