** Why in prophet Nuh's ship every two kinds
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Peace dear believers....
Let's research more.. What is more evidence than self perceptions....1958 "Those were the ones upon whom Allah bestowed favor from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam and of those We carried with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping."
26105 "The people of Noah denied the messengers" ....
2537 " And the people of Noah - when they denied the messengers, We drowned them, and We made them for mankind a sign. And We have prepared for the wrongdoers a painful punishment" ...
Note well Not 'A' Messenger but three or more Messengers as per grammar..
The reason I presented the above verses is coz we are the people from the decendants of NOAH.. Of course we are children of Adam... But after the deluge it is we are the decendants of Noah... That's what in 1958 God says.... And of those we carried with Noah...thats a sign that Noah's community was single in the earth...
But in the same verse God says " ,,,, from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam... "" if in this verse only mentioned Adam, we can imagine we all children of Adam so prophets are from Adam only... But there is something other than. That here.. Coz Noah, Ibrahim, isreal etc...mentioned... Actually though Adam was not prophet NOAH was... Noah was in fact a messenger... But he was not the only messenger in his extended 1000 years of life.... That's why I brought the verses of 2537 and 26105 ..in them it is very clear that including Nuh there were three or more messengers duirng the time of Nuh... But nuh was the icon among them and as per QURAN it is clear.. He is the leading role... Same as among musa and harun musa take the leading role... So we can imagine that community is not a small one... To send multiple messengers it must have been big in numbers out of a big community ... So in the laden ship there would have been many people... So with all their household items and day to day stuff for long voyage and the animals around at that time were very limited creations and they also inside the boarded ark.. So must have been definitly laden ship....2914 "And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers."
If some one living 950 years among his people then and we can imagine that life expectancy of that one community is much higher... Some say twisting words no one lives such long periods... Sana is years... No one can deny....
BTW Noah didn't live 950 years... But 1000 years.. Note the verse 2914 carefully.... His community is actually two parts... He lived among the community before the great deluge 950 years... Then God says then the flood seized them (community) so after flood Noah didn't die immediately but he landed in Judi... So the balance 50 he would have lived in Judi... That's not the entire community he spent 950 years.. That's doomed.. That's devasted.... That's why God says 1000-50... 50 years in new place for Noah to see lots of decendants.... It is the second part of Noah...
Noah and his history is a great sign with meaning...
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brother did you read my last post ?
see equation what YEARS u r talking atleast two words used by author here.
let Brother NOON see that post he will come with nice findings i havnt study (calculations) in detail how to calculate like shares in inheritence and science of years/days etc.
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peace to all.....
Has any support from that to say that there were Umma-community/nation/group/followers before Noah.. at least something like below.. No?
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Thus have We sent you to a community before which communities have passed on so you might recite to them that which We revealed to you, while they disbelieve in the Most Merciful. Say, "He is my Lord; there is no deity except Him. Upon Him I rely, and to Him is my return."
The verse reads clearly
1148 Noah was told, "Get down from the Ark. Your Lord's peace and blessings are upon you and your followers. Your Lord will grant favors to other nations and then afflict them with a painful torment."
Ummamin here is the followers or groups of Noah who believed? Though they in one nation there would have been different type?Did God bring Many Nations with him in the ship who he doesn?t know even? NO? Nuh was sent to an area where many a people lived (seems like large group of people who practices idolworship) out of them many believed but majority doomed?.
In the same verse, ?Your Lord WILL GRANT favors ?. Means in the future (sanumattiuhum) God will not do a same type of destruction but God will favor them but painful torment will afflict them while having the favors?even on this world and hereafter..
1073 And they denied him, so We saved him and those with him in the ship and made them successors (khalifa), and We drowned those who denied Our signs. Then see how was the end of those who were warned.
As we all know this is the main reason God created Human and Jinn to place (Successors) Khalifa?Successors from the community of Noah.. No other community?and upon them, and on the ships, you are borne.2322
And We sent Noah to his people; and he, said, 'O my people, serve God! You have no god other than He. Will you not be godfearing?"2323
The above verses shows we are people who are carried / borne coz of the ship which was saved?immediately after the ship, then Noah appears in the next verse is clear indication..
26119 So We saved him and those with him in the laden ship.
37140 heavily loaded or weighed down. (why Younus was thrown out.. isn?t it coz it was loaded heavily)
What is the meaning of Laden ship? Why it should be called ?mash?huun? (laden -heavily loaded or weighed down)
Look at the below undeniable glaring verse?
3641 And an Ayah (sign) for them is that We bore their offspring in the laden ship .
Who are these offspring who were carried in a laden ship? Are we not from those who were saved in the ship of Noah?.what else you want as proof? And what is your claim to prove it was local?....3642 and We have created for them the like of it whereon they ride;
What the incident of Noah made for us, is that from Noah history created we were given the knowledge to build ships to travel through the surface of the water? all for our benefit?No ship almost things are impossible now..
All well planned by God?
God guide us..Some asking privately the verse 3641 is a proof.... At least some are opening eyes...
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Some asking privately the verse 3641 is a proof.... At least some are opening eyes...
what has to do with topic or that it was a local flood?
you never answered what happened to land animals?
likewise, you believe penguins antarctic are all fake?https//www.youtube.com/results?search_query=penquins+antartic
3613 and strikes for them similitude of companions the town ...
3641 and sign for them indeed we carry we of dhurriyyatahum/progeny (offspring) theirs in the ship the fraught being5726 and surely sent we of noah of and abraham and made we of in dhurriyyatihim/progeny (offspring) theirs dual the prophet-hood/enlightenment and the book (writ/scripture) so among them guided and much among them so disobeying
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what has to do with topic or that it was a local flood?
you never answered what happened to land animals?
likewise, you believe penguins antarctic are all fake?https//www.youtube.com/results?search_query=penquins+antartic
3613 and strikes for them similitude of companions the town ...
3641 and sign for them indeed we carry we of dhurriyyatahum/progeny (offspring) theirs in the ship the fraught being5726 and surely sent we of noah of and abraham and made we of in dhurriyyatihim/progeny (offspring) theirs dual the prophet-hood/enlightenment and the book (writ/scripture) so among them guided and much among them so disobeying
You didn't read my threads I guess.. You entered frim somewhere in between .
I clearly said God disn't create all the animals that's around now when the great deluge tool place... Only very very very limited which Noah took to his ark.. That Noah only knew... Whatever we see Now is after deluge.. Be it penguins, or seagull or kiwi or kangaroo or whatever... -
I clearly said God disn't create all the animals that's around now when the great deluge tool place... Only very very very limited which Noah took to his ark.. That Noah only knew... Whatever we see Now is after deluge.. Be it penguins, or seagull or kiwi or kangaroo or whatever...
https//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/31/vers/11/handschrift/56
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https//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/31/vers/11/handschrift/56
https//i.postimg.cc/FsnKzNCY/ch31v10-15.jpg
Now it confirms You have not read every thread and still questioning... We already discussed this verse 3110 earlier..
God created Heavens and Earth.. Yes in six days... But it doesn't mean he created everything... For example human.. Did God create all humans when he created the heavens and Earth and spread.. No.. . Same animals... He spread... And he created is totally Different to spread. By any of the verses you can't say that God created all the animals within that six days... No proof... -
Salam!
You said "For example human.. Did God create all humans when he created the heavens and Earth and spread.. No.. . "
Quran says
004001 O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women. Be careful of your duty toward Allah in Whom ye claim (your rights) of one another, and toward the wombs (that bare you). Lo! Allah hath been a watcher over you.
004001 In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful. O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them many men and women. And fear Allah, through whom you ask one another, and the wombs. Indeed Allah is ever, over you, an Observer._
039006 He created you from one being, then from that (being) He made its mate; and He hath provided for you of cattle eight kinds. He created you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, in a threefold gloom. Such is Allah, your Lord. His is the Sovereignty. There is no Allah save Him. How then are ye turned away?
039006 He created you from one soul. Then He made from it its mate, and He produced for you from the grazing livestock eight mates. He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, within three darknesses. That is Allah, your Lord; to Him belongs dominion. There is no deity except Him, so how are you averted?Peace!
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900 -1000 years( solar/lunar/sumerian) whatever are more than enough to gather every species from all parts of world. hmm
Author select two words for YEAR/s in 29 14 both words used for one equation things are bit tricky here. its like this
answer = ( how many years and which one A or b in final step of equation) ?
A is year named as Sanatin
B is year named as Amanapart from noah is there is anybodys else ? AGE ? mention with NUMBERS ?
author/s of bible also have somewhat similar age figure for NOAH hinting towards possible plagarism as per they calimed although like arabic we have to see the greek or hebrew version of bible for correct interpretation.
its due to a reason only noah age is mentioned in Quran the style of quran is not like telling exact age and dates of events/things/persons in numbers.
NOAH is exception which is worth pondering
peace brother NOON,
hope u doing good.
can you give me a favour this offtopic post u can ADDRESS me in seperate NEW thread or PM me the details of your work/articles on different type YEARS.but i recommend we open a new thread so that other memebers can give their input about the age myth of noah and quranic dictionary of years.
i have noted u have a nice grip on mathematics and calculations of quran bu crosscheck before that i never study years in details.
God bless you
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Peace everyone....
7112 ?and will succour you with wealth and sons, and will appoint for you GARDENS, and will appoint for you RIVERS.?
By looking at the above verse, we can deduce one thing? God promise for these very ancient people(in fact in this verse it is Noah?s people) to appoint / make gardens(janna) and rivers (Anhar)?. A garden(janna) without river is pretty weird? God Created the earth and heavens we are aware?. But every luxury of the earth is bestowed on this people is a question mark or simply everything what we see Now were around or not then is real question mark... ? An early community could have settled in one of the best places of the earth which has gardens and rivers flowing? but God says We will send you abundance sky (rain) and make for you gardens and rivers? Did God in fact create Gardens where people can live freely with rivers around? For me No?but created earth long back... it was all favor bestowed on the people who came after the deluge?But for the people of Noah Garden and rivers were promised but they didn?t accept it..
In fact when the earth is already created (Khalaq) no need to create the garden and rivers? but gardens and rivers are made ? it is formed? in my understanding When God does something He says QUN (Be) but other thing He creates himself and having the assistance of who are appointed for it.. They are elite of Elite Malaika..but in the end all things Qun seems imperative... If without creation only Qun, then no need to say He created Adam by both his hands, and further after creating no fatigue touched us... Etc..
2117 ?the Creator of the heavens and the earth; and when He decrees a thing, He but says to it 'Be,' and it is.?
In my understanding this QUN is totally not relevant to the creation of the Heavens and earth but when it comes to decree it?it is.. or is it like used to give the life to what is actually created....like the verse 359 indicates.. but for whatever He wants to decree and also to Ja?ala(appoint) something.. To say Qun and to become it won?t take six days ?. And no need of the assistance of Malaika to say Qun who in fact was part of creation.. and specifically God didn't let know others the creation process with purpose.... So it seems a visible process the creation is
Do you see the word Midrara in only 03 verses 66, 1152, 7111? all of them by being used only to ancient communities specially very ancient like Nuh, Ad.. etc? Do you note God say (wa?ja?alna Anhar) appointed/made Rivers? It shows at the very initial period rain was very rare, and rivers was not at all formed.. All after the deluge .. we have been blessed after the deluge, so many a nations were destroyed after the messengers being sent and warned? but not as the great flood worldwide.. but locally? coz God blessed and people denied .... But Noah community was promised such blessings what we experience but they mocked and denied and kept following the idols of theirs...
These are signs for me that after deluge lots of things were formed and God keep creating as well...
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Slm jkhan,
say your right and the flood was over the whole world, this mean all the living things went dead , ok i can accept the later animals ( there is also non proof of evolutions , fact is there is a missing link...). how get we populated again ? with how many people start it ?? cause in Quran Allah mentioned creation of human with sand/mud in the begin?
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peace brother NOON,
hope u doing good.
can you give me a favour this offtopic post u can ADDRESS me in seperate NEW thread or PM me the details of your work/articles on different type YEARS.but i recommend we open a new thread so that other memebers can give their input about the age myth of noah and quranic dictionary of years.
i have noted u have a nice grip on mathematics and calculations of quran bu crosscheck before that i never study years in details.
God bless you
peace, researching sanatin (perhaps "age"?)
man/year of (a single solar year)
mayni/year two (solar see 3114)sinina/years (plural of mun) see usage ...
1247 said thou cultivating seven (7) sinina/years (solar)
1249 approached from after such mun/year (solar) -
Salam!
The root has a basic meaning of to float, to swim, set afloat
What if we put this meaning in 2914. It would say like this
029014 And verily we sent Noah (as Our messenger) unto his folk, and he continued with them for a thousand years except fifty (years of) floating; and the flood engulfed them, for they were wrong-doers.Does it tell that the ship remained floating for 50 years? In that case it was definitely a world-wide flood. The equitorial regions dried first and that is why the ship stopped there.
Peace!
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Salam!
The root has a basic meaning of to float, to swim, set afloat
What if we put this meaning in 2914. It would say like this
029014 And verily we sent Noah (as Our messenger) unto his folk, and he continued with them for a thousand years except fifty (years of) floating; and the flood engulfed them, for they were wrong-doers.Does it tell that the ship remained floating for 50 years? In that case it was definitely a world-wide flood. The equitorial regions dried first and that is why the ship stopped there.
Peace!
Hmm. That's a very good point... I never thought of it...
anyhow it also shows Noah lived 1000 years... But it seems like Noah would have passed away within the same year after landing somehow completing 1000 years before stepping into 1001 birthday..Other point is it was a laden ship with a reason... If you say sailing for 50 years would need lots of food and water and.... Yes it's raining... And probably fish... But hard to guess... But somehow.. No idea how long they floated, that's not so significant probably but it was worldwide.... Could be possible as well.. May be mission of nuh is over once ship landed... And God made another generation... Could be 50 years of floating... But cannot convince untill further evidence.... Are you convinced 50 years of floating.. ?
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Salam Jkhan!
It is a guess based on dictionary entries Hans Wehr and Lane's Lexican.
See below for Noah's progeny
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057026 And We verily sent Noah and Abraham and placed the prophethood and the scripture among their seed (both), and among them there is he who goeth right, but many of them are evil-livers.
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Salam Jkhan!
It is a guess based on dictionary entries Hans Wehr and Lane's Lexican.
See below for Noah's progeny
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057026 And We verily sent Noah and Abraham and placed the prophethood and the scripture among their seed (both), and among them there is he who goeth right, but many of them are evil-livers.
isn't it for dual?Good verse...
But I thought of while I was shopping about your 50 years floating.... No... For me simply.... Suppose Noah had goats and cows in the ark.... So they want to live... They don't eat fish....
And there is no place in the whole world for which it takes 50 years to travel... If they the believers were in the ark 50 years then it's a kind of curse on them... God won't hurt His believers with a curse....
For me simply no.... Based on my common sense....
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Salam!
50 years of floating seems impossible to you but world-wide flood where water rise above the highest mountains then how much time it took to dry up so much water? Some water was soaked by the earth but do you know at what speed? Well, billions of humans have been consuming underground water for thousands of years till now and it is not yet finished, so possibly the earth soaked all the water.
The other possibiliy is a world beyond Antarctica, if you are Flat-earther. There the water has been frozen in an area of thousands of miles (almost 14million sq. km and 30 million cubic km is ice as per wikipedia). Its height is about 200 meter and hundreds of miles (2500 m) beneath the ocean.
Let's go and find our paradise where Adam lived.Peace!
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@ jkhan
is it mention in quran it was not local flood but global?
Hmmm good question.
i wana add more
the pairs what he never carry in his ship get vanished from earth example
dinosaurs.
fire dragons of ?games of thrones? (brother hawk i m in love with that dragon queen do you lol)
snaky vampires (salma hayek) ?from dust till dawn? ( once i loved her too haha).
giants of easter island
bonnies from gulliver travels.
all creations were present before Global flood. noah left risky things in flat earth. !
so we finally have figured out what happened to the
dinosaurs, dragons, vampires, and giants ;D
they drowned! rotflLet's not forget
Unicorns, cyclops, and the centaur rotfl
And in a flash of lightning he delivered the specifications for an Ark. "OK," said Noah, trembling in fear and fumbling with the blueprints. "Six months, and it starts to rain," thundered the Lord. "You'd better have my Ark completed, or learn how to swim for a very long time." And six months passed. The skies began to cloud up and rain began to fall.
The Lord saw that Noah was sitting in his front yard, weeping. And there was no Ark. "Noah," shouted the Lord, "where is my Ark?" A lightning bolt crashed into the ground next to Noah.
"Lord, please forgive me!" begged Noah. "I did my best. But there were big problems. by leaving the country, and I just got a notice from the state about owing some kind of use tax. I really don't think I can finish your Ark for at least another five years," Noah wailed.The sky began to clear. The sun began to shine. A rainbow arched across the sky. Noah looked up and smiled. "You mean you're not going to destroy the earth?" Noah asked, hopefully.
"No," said the Lord sadly, "Governments on earth are already doing it for me."I mean it is true the story is funny!
GOD bless.
Peace.rotfl
In the first book of the Bible, Guinesses, God got tired of creating the world, so he took the Sabbath off.
or may b gabi bring a poweful microscope for NOAH here u go noah god send this microscope for you to check the sex of every species either its male or female. rotfl
rotfl
Noah also had to fetch from the underground moles, armadillos, Earthworms,
ants, and the bilby.http//www.australiamyland.com.au/images02/animal-bilby.jpg
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Salam!
The root has a basic meaning of to float, to swim, set afloat
peace ? similar "local flood" ?
7130 and surely takes we of family pharaoh with the years and reduction of the fruits perhaps they remembering/heeding ...
7133 so sent we of upon them the deluge ...2914 ... so seizes them the deluge