Does quran says humans think by heart?
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Salam everyone, I hope that all of you are healthy
When i was reading quran, i noticed that in all of the quran thinking is related to heart(qalb) not brain, above all the 2246 says that this qalb are in chests(sadr) what is the explanation here? Does it means that Quran says that source of thinking is heart?(which is not) the answers in internet arent convincing, some of them says that Science is wrong and quran is correct and we dont accept the science ,and some of them copy pasted an article that says heart have 40000 neurons and it can think(honestly if you show this article to any medical doctor or college professor she/he will just laugh to you)
I hope that you guys can help about the meaning
Thanks, peace
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Peace Mahdi20.
So science is not consistent with the one who created it?,quoteHeart-Brain Communication
Traditionally, the study of communication pathways between the head and heart has been approached from a rather one-sided perspective, with scientists focusing primarily on the heart’s responses to the brain’s commands. We have learned, however, that communication between the heart and brain actually is a dynamic, ongoing, two-way dialogue, with each organ continuously influencing the other’s function. Research has shown that the heart communicates to the brain in four major ways neurologically (through the transmission of nerve impulses), biochemically (via hormones and neurotransmitters), biophysically (through pressure waves) and energetically (through electromagnetic field interactions). Communication along all these conduits significantly affects the brain’s activity. Moreover, our research shows that messages the heart sends to the brain also can affect performance.https//www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/heart-brain-communication/
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The Heart as a Hormonal Gland
In addition to its extensive neurological interactions, the heart also communicates with the brain and body biochemically by way of the hormones it produces. Although not typically thought of as an endocrine gland, the heart actually manufactures and secretes a number of hormones and neurotransmitters that have a wide-ranging impact on the body as a whole.The heart was reclassified as part of the hormonal system in 1983, when a new hormone produced and secreted by the atria of the heart was discovered. This hormone has been called by several different names – atrial natriuretic factor (ANF), atrial natriuretic peptide (ANP) and atrial peptide. Nicknamed the balance hormone, it plays an important role in fluid and electrolyte balance and helps regulate the blood vessels, kidneys, adrenal glands and many regulatory centers in the brain. Increased atrial peptide inhibits the release of stress hormones, reduces sympathetic outflow and appears to interact with the immune system. Even more intriguing, experiments suggest atrial peptide can influence motivation and behavior.
It was later discovered the heart contains cells that synthesize and release catecholamines (norepinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine), which are neurotransmitters once thought to be produced only by neurons in the brain and ganglia. More recently, it was discovered the heart also manufactures and secretes oxytocin, which can act as a neurotransmitter and commonly is referred to as the love or socialbonding hormone. Beyond its well-known functions in childbirth and lactation, oxytocin also has been shown to be involved in cognition, tolerance, trust and friendship and the establishment of enduring pair-bonds. Remarkably, concentrations of oxytocin produced in the heart are in the same range as those produced in the brain.
The creator of both the heart and brain knows exactly what they both do.,Our Science is in the process of finding things out still.
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
Peace Mahdi20.
So science is not consistent with the one who created it?,quoteHeart-Brain Communication
Traditionally, the study of communication pathways between the head and heart has been approached from a rather one-sided perspective, with scientists focusing primarily on the heart’s responses to the brain’s commands. We have learned, however, that communication between the heart and brain actually is a dynamic, ongoing, two-way dialogue, with each organ continuously influencing the other’s function. Research has shown that the heart communicates to the brain in four major ways neurologically (through the transmission of nerve impulses), biochemically (via hormones and neurotransmitters), biophysically (through pressure waves) and energetically (through electromagnetic field interactions). Communication along all these conduits significantly affects the brain’s activity. Moreover, our research shows that messages the heart sends to the brain also can affect performance.https//www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/heart-brain-communication/
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The Heart as a Hormonal Gland
In addition to its extensive neurological interactions, the heart also communicates with the brain and body biochemically by way of the hormones it produces. Although not typically thought of as an endocrine gland, the heart actually manufactures and secretes a number of hormones and neurotransmitters that have a wide-ranging impact on the body as a whole.The heart was reclassified as part of the hormonal system in 1983, when a new hormone produced and secreted by the atria of the heart was discovered. This hormone has been called by several different names – atrial natriuretic factor (ANF), atrial natriuretic peptide (ANP) and atrial peptide. Nicknamed the balance hormone, it plays an important role in fluid and electrolyte balance and helps regulate the blood vessels, kidneys, adrenal glands and many regulatory centers in the brain. Increased atrial peptide inhibits the release of stress hormones, reduces sympathetic outflow and appears to interact with the immune system. Even more intriguing, experiments suggest atrial peptide can influence motivation and behavior.
It was later discovered the heart contains cells that synthesize and release catecholamines (norepinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine), which are neurotransmitters once thought to be produced only by neurons in the brain and ganglia. More recently, it was discovered the heart also manufactures and secretes oxytocin, which can act as a neurotransmitter and commonly is referred to as the love or socialbonding hormone. Beyond its well-known functions in childbirth and lactation, oxytocin also has been shown to be involved in cognition, tolerance, trust and friendship and the establishment of enduring pair-bonds. Remarkably, concentrations of oxytocin produced in the heart are in the same range as those produced in the brain.
The creator of both the heart and brain knows exactly what they both do.,Our Science is in the process of finding things out still.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I don't quite agree with you...
Science is correct.. Brain holds the function of thinking and full of knowledge is when brain functions well..
Heart is is the DECIDER WITH INTENT... I don't think brain decides...
From the ancient time heart is the one people call as dirty not brain.. One can be fool.. So people call him foolish head..
If one kills another innocent one calls him is your heart stone?That's so natural..
Heart is the ultimate decider.. In hearts only satisfaction remains.. Satisfaction is not in brain..
If you read all QURAN heart verses you will find that heart is decider with intent with satisfaction... Heart is sinful and heart is clean.. Not the brain.. Brain is not sinful OR brain is clean..
Heart is the decider..
Knowledge is from brain.. For one to become a scientist he doesn't need a perfect heart his brain is enough.. For him to be a truthful scientist he needs to have a good heart..
God knows what's in one's heart.. We also know what is in one's brain if you know him well..Fear is not in brain.. Fear is in heart.. God put the fear/terror in those who disbelieve in their heart and not in their brain..
If one regrets then it is though hearts.. Not through brain..
Showing love and rudeness is through heart and not by brain..
You can say you believe with your brain... But it is not in your heart..
You can humble with your heart and not with brain..
Yes heart is the final understanding location.. But as a decider... But brain is doing the complete thinking part..
Note the verse 7100 and ponder.. Sealed the heart so they not hear.. How come that is possible?
Is science complete on this subject or still developing?
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Peace Good logic,
I dont understand what is the relation of this article you sent with the thinking of heart?
He said Traditionally, the study of communication pathways between the head and heart has been approached from a rather one-sided perspective, with scientists focusing primarily on the heart’s responses to the brain’s commands. We have learned, however, that communication between the heart and brain actually is a dynamic, ongoing, two-way dialogue, with each organ continuously influencing the other’s function. Research has shown that the heart communicates to the brain in four major ways neurologically (through the transmission of nerve impulses), biochemically (via hormones and neurotransmitters), biophysically (through pressure waves) and energetically (through electromagnetic field interactions). Communication along all these conduits significantly affects the brain’s activity. Moreover, our research shows that messages the heart sends to the brain also can affect performance.
?! Almost every organ have two-wat communication with brain, does this mean we think by this organs?
He said The heart was reclassified as part of the hormonal system in 1983, when a new hormone produced and secreted by the atria of the heart was discovered. This hormone has been called by several different names – atrial natriuretic factor (ANF), atrial natriuretic peptide (ANP) and atrial peptide. Nicknamed the balance hormone, it plays an important role in fluid and electrolyte balance and helps regulate the blood vessels, kidneys, adrenal glands and many regulatory centers in the brain. Increased atrial peptide inhibits the release of stress hormones, reduces sympathetic outflow and appears to interact with the immune system. Even more intriguing, experiments suggest atrial peptide can influence motivation and behavior.
I have a question, according to this logic, you think by your adrenal glands too, what a non sense,
He said It was later discovered the heart contains cells that synthesize and release catecholamines (norepinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine), which are neurotransmitters once thought to be produced only by neurons in the brain and ganglia. More recently, it was discovered the heart also manufactures and secretes oxytocin, which can act as a neurotransmitter and commonly is referred to as the love or socialbonding hormone. Beyond its well-known functions in childbirth and lactation, oxytocin also has been shown to be involved in cognition, tolerance, trust and friendship and the establishment of enduring pair-bonds. Remarkably, concentrations of oxytocin produced in the heart are in the same range as those produced in the brain.
I have never heard that heart cells synthesize epinephrine and oxytocin in any reliable reference, and even if it does, its not in a high amount, and even if it is, again according to thus logic we think by our adrenal glands too, rotfl
You saidThe creator of both the heart and brain knows exactly what they both do.,Our Science is in the process of finding things out still.
Yes the creator for sure knows that Humans think by brains, and no its 100% proven that heart isnt place of thinking. Go insert a Artifical heart in youself if you doubt about this topic
Peace
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I don't quite agree with you...
Science is correct.. Brain holds the function of thinking and full of knowledge is when brain functions well..
Heart is is the DECIDER WITH INTENT... I don't think brain decides...
From the ancient time heart is the one people call as dirty not brain.. One can be fool.. So people call him foolish head..
If one kills another innocent one calls him is your heart stone?That's so natural..
Heart is the ultimate decider.. In hearts only satisfaction remains.. Satisfaction is not in brain..
If you read all QURAN heart verses you will find that heart is decider with intent with satisfaction... Heart is sinful and heart is clean.. Not the brain.. Brain is not sinful OR brain is clean..
Heart is the decider..
Knowledge is from brain.. For one to become a scientist he doesn't need a perfect heart his brain is enough.. For him to be a truthful scientist he needs to have a good heart..
God knows what's in one's heart.. We also know what is in one's brain if you know him well..Fear is not in brain.. Fear is in heart.. God put the fear/terror in those who disbelieve in their heart and not in their brain..
If one regrets then it is though hearts.. Not through brain..
Showing love and rudeness is through heart and not by brain..
You can say you believe with your brain... But it is not in your heart..
You can humble with your heart and not with brain..
Yes heart is the final understanding location.. But as a decider... But brain is doing the complete thinking part..
Note the verse 7100 and ponder.. Sealed the heart so they not hear.. How come that is possible?
Is science complete on this subject or still developing?
Have they finalized that brain is the only organ that can perceive things?Peace jkhan, by respect, All the actions you attributed to the heart is the function of Brain/different parts of Brain
And u said Have they finalized that brain is the only organ that can perceive things
Idk, 99.9% yes, but they 100% finalized that heart cant pereceige anything
If you move heart of a rude person to a kind person, the kind person wouldnt be rude, and if you insert a mechanical heart into someone chest, he wont lose his emotions, cuz its limbic system is a part of body that is the center of emotions.
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I am not an expert Scientist of the heart or brain.
However what I am saying is that some scientists-experts- are saying this
https//noeticsi.com/thinking-from-the-heart-heart-brain-science/#~text=As%20the%20most%20powerful%20and%20consistent%20generator%20of,sound%20waves%29%2C%20and%20energetically%20%28through%20electromagnetic%20field%20interactions%29.Quote
The HeartMath research team has identified and named what is now known as the heart’s coherent state. It is important to note that, as McCraty points out, the heart coherent state is a well-defined and measurable state that is fundamentally different from a state of relaxation and from most meditative states that require only a lowered heart rate and not necessarily a coherent rhythm.This state, which reflects a type of optimal function, is technically called physiological coherence, but it is also being referred to in the literature as heart coherence, cardiac coherence, or resonance. The important point is that this is a specific functional psycho-physiological mode that can be objectively measured by heart rate variability (HRV) analysis. Heart rate variability is a measure of the naturally occurring beat-to-beat changes in heart rate.
“It was really Doc Childre who first used the terms ‘heart intelligence’ and ‘coherence,’ at least that I know of,” says McCraty. “He was using this language when I first met him in 1987, but it took us a few years of doing the research to really start to understand just how appropriate these terms really were.”
McCraty and the research team then began to understand that there is a physiological reason that our emotions are reflected in the heart’s rhythmic patterns, and this took the perception of the heart being involved in our emotions out of the metaphysical realm and grounded it in basic emotional physiology. This set the stage for their later studies on intuition.
What I am also saying is GOD says our heart plays an important role in our choices and decisions.
GOD bless you.
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Peace Good logic,
Our emotions not only effects on our cardiovascular system, but other systems like digestive sysyem , urinary system and etc, and all of this are because our nervous system, if you want to know more about this, go study sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system from reliable Physiology sources, not from unreliable sources from internet and etc,
God bless you
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Yes , I am aware of you say.
There is more to the connection of heart and brain than what we know as humans.
And more to come from science.
GOD less you.
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Yes , I am aware of you say.
There is more to the connection of heart and brain than what we know as humans.
And more to come from science.
GOD less you.
Peace.Yes brother, but it doesnt means that human thinks with their heart, its an ancient belief from the humans whom hadnt knowledge of biology, and i dont think that the quran says this… if it says it means that quran is wrong… but i think its the wrong understanding of quran, i hope some people with the knowledge in arabic help me in this topic
And if the heart was center of thinking/emotions etc, the people with Mechanical heart would look like thishttps//s4.uupload.ir/files/e25e1a17-2c16-4fb8-910e-98b70d5303f2_2dg7.png
God bless you
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Peace jkhan, by respect, All the actions you attributed to the heart is the function of Brain/different parts of Brain
And u said Have they finalized that brain is the only organ that can perceive things
Idk, 99.9% yes, but they 100% finalized that heart cant pereceige anything
If you move heart of a rude person to a kind person, the kind person wouldnt be rude, and if you insert a mechanical heart into someone chest, he wont lose his emotions, cuz its limbic system is a part of body that is the center of emotions.
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Thank you..
You are instant as usual.. And it seems you have decided based on bits and pieces..
Let me speak from the side of God believer.. If God doesn't know which organ works for what function, then who will better..?
When I researched about functions of brain 10 years before what I get is brain is not the mother of human body.. It's heart for me.. Brain mainly deals with commanding for movement of every other organ while it is the storage.. Brain has various functions as we all know..
But whatever I explained in my precious reply heart only does...When it comes to heart transplant be it natural or artificial it works for very short limited time.. Artificial is hardly nothing.. Yes when a heart of another person is transplanted he may react differently.. Coz it is not his own heart by which he was perceiving and making decisions.. No one knows what is in the hearts of people so even after transplanted we are not in a position to judge it... That's waste of time...
Further don't discard the fact that brain and heart are two organs well connected each other..
When someone is transplanted wuth sheer artificial heart it may only help for pumping blood if it works to certain extent. But unfortunately heart's function is not only to pump blood it is in fact the core of body.. Human is nothing without being able to make decisions on his own.. That is done by heart only.. Of course brain is connected..
Do you see strangely brain is missing in Quran for almost all instances where brain could be used since people of all time thought that brain is used for knowledge and thing.. Why they call brainless? So it was also in practice in Arabic.. But In Quran it was avoided.. For everything heart...
Modern science is definitely in the hunt for reality in this case.. There us nothing to hide here like earth is stationary or spinning...
But modern science definitely got it wrong if they say only function f heart is to pump blood.. You can't prove that literally..
It is up to a person to immerse in modern science and go in line with it and leave God.. But he will feel shameful if science revert its decision... Science never ends and it always keep changing.. Coz science is from various people of various eras and not from one ...
QURANs verses are clear and not ambiguous.. Heart has all the functions.. Even I think heart has temporary memory.. Let's byheart that.. Lol.
Mother and heart is compared in Quran with a reason.. Heart is mother of body for sure..I forgot to include the important verse..
7179 "... They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. ...."
No professor can deny this.. Quran without any ambiguity explained the function of three organs.. That's it.. Believe in Quran or believe in science.. All up to individuals.. -
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Peace..
Thank you..
You are instant as usual.. And it seems you have decided based on bits and pieces..
Let me speak from the side of God believer.. If God doesn't know which organ works for what function, then who will better..?
When I researched about functions of brain 10 years before what I get is brain is not the mother of human body.. It's heart for me.. Brain mainly deals with commanding for movement of every other organ while it is the storage.. Brain has various functions as we all know..
But whatever I explained in my precious reply heart only does...When it comes to heart transplant be it natural or artificial it works for very short limited time.. Artificial is hardly nothing.. Yes when a heart of another person is transplanted he may react differently.. Coz it is not his own heart by which he was perceiving and making decisions.. No one knows what is in the hearts of people so even after transplanted we are not in a position to judge it... That's waste of time...
Further don't discard the fact that brain and heart are two organs well connected each other..
When someone is transplanted wuth sheer artificial heart it may only help for pumping blood if it works to certain extent. But unfortunately heart's function is not only to pump blood it is in fact the core of body.. Human is nothing without being able to make decisions on his own.. That is done by heart only.. Of course brain is connected..
Do you see strangely brain is missing in Quran for almost all instances where brain could be used since people of all time thought that brain is used for knowledge and thing.. Why they call brainless? So it was also in practice in Arabic.. But In Quran it was avoided.. For everything heart...
Modern science is definitely in the hunt for reality in this case.. There us nothing to hide here like earth is stationary or spinning...
But modern science definitely got it wrong if they say only function f heart is to pump blood.. You can't prove that literally..
It is up to a person to immerse in modern science and go in line with it and leave God.. But he will feel shameful if science revert its decision... Science never ends and it always keep changing.. Coz science is from various people of various eras and not from one ...
QURANs verses are clear and not ambiguous.. Heart has all the functions.. Even I think heart has temporary memory.. Let's byheart that.. Lol.
Mother and heart is compared in Quran with a reason.. Heart is mother of body for sure..I forgot to include the important verse..
7179 "... They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. ...."
No professor can deny this.. Quran without any ambiguity explained the function of three organs.. That's it.. Believe in Quran or believe in science.. All up to individuals..Peace,RIP Medicine,Anatomy,Histology, Physiology,History EditAlso RIP Statistics rotfl
By seeing that so many Quran-Only believers have so many ridiculous ideas like this, or flat earth theory, or virus is work of evil and itsnot real and etc, i doubt more and more about Quran may God guide me into the righr path
Go study about temp memory of heart, you will get noble prize im sure brother giveup bravo rotfl -
Quran says humans think by brain.
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/brain_functions.html
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Peace,RIP Medicine,Anatomy,Histology, Physiology,History EditAlso RIP Statistics rotflBy seeing that so many Quran-Only believers have so many ridiculous ideas like this, or flat earth theory, or virus is work of evil and itsnot real and etc, i doubt more and more about Quran may God guide me into the righr path
Go study about temp memory of heart, you will get noble prize im sure brother giveup bravo rotflDon't rush toddler... Walk first before sprint...
While denying God's verses you can't still believe in God..
Truth is bitter tasted.. Accept humiliations infront of public if you want to be a true believer... Coz God's truth is not accepted by majority.. So be ready to be mocked...Keep waiting.. We will also wait... Truth is not meant for hidden forever.. God will expose... If you are right in that day mock at me.. That's worthy.. Now it is too early boy.. You have no evidence. You are just sitting on the shade of science..
Enjoy... Right time will tell you earth is stationary or spinning.. Or heart is perceiving OR not...
I don't blame your reaction.. It is the period thst you go through... With the time you will learn many more... Take care... No grudges.. Coz it is not your fault.. Coz guidance not yet reached you. -
Quran says humans think by brain.
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/brain_functions.html
I knew one would bring this also...
Yes.. Don't deny the functions of brain also... 7179 is more than enough to judge what heart can do...
Go in line with Quran and don't go in line with science.. It won't take you nowhere.. -
Don't rush toddler... Walk first before sprint...
While denying God's verses you can't still believe in God..
Truth is bitter tasted.. Accept humiliations infront of public if you want to be a true believer... Coz God's truth is not accepted by majority.. So be ready to be mocked...Keep waiting.. We will also wait... Truth is not meant for hidden forever.. God will expose... If you are right in that day mock at me.. That's worthy.. Now it is too early boy.. You have no evidence. You are just sitting on the shade of science..
Enjoy... Right time will tell you earth is stationary or spinning.. Or heart is perceiving OR not...
I don't blame your reaction.. It is the period thst you go through... With the time you will learn many more... Take care... No grudges.. Coz it is not your fault.. Coz guidance not yet reached you.Peace, its not about what majority says, its all about evidence , and proven science, not theory, One can believe in God and not accept quran, thats why jews and christians who have 3 parameters will not be sad according to what Quran says, and remember brother if a book says something opposite to whats proven science says,its the error of the book, not proven science , cuz creator of this science for sure, 100% is God, but humans can write a book too, but i insist that its poor understanding/translation
Because of the Mercy and help of God, im Medical student, so its not about blindly following what others says, if you doubt about that heart thinks or not,stop making funny theories and study science, i dont say that blindly follow what A,B,C says, just study yourself.
EditAre you flat earther too?!
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Peace brother, have seen this before, this is not what this verse says, read the previous verse too,
Peace be upon you
I'm already reading the whole paragraph together. And the Qur'an says that the thinking organ is the brain.
When you read the verses together, this picture emerges. I also have a Turkish article about it.
The thinking organ is the brain, according to God.
Peace
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Peace Mahdi20, your position breaks my brain heart.
Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down to thy heart by Allah's will,
a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-When one hears some good news, do they experience joy in their brains or in their hearts? hmm
When one hears some bad news or hears of a loved ones death, does one feel pain in ones brains
or does one feel pain in their hearts?
When one loves someone, does one love someone with their brains or from their hearts? hmm
When one sends a message of love to someone, does one send the portrait of a brain or a heart?
When one is betrayed, does one feel or say that the person has broken my brain or he/she has
broken my heart?
When one memorizes something, does one say that I have memorized it by my brain or does one
say I have memorized it by heart? hmmTherefore whomsoever Allah intends that He would guide him aright, He expands his
breast for Islam, and (for) whomsoever He intends that He should cause him to err, He makes his
breast strait and narrow as though he were ascending upwards; thus does Allah lay uncleanness
on those who do not believe.peace
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Peace hawk, i know what you want to say, you want to say its a metaphor and simile?
This would be true if those things wasnt there, as jkhan said, in so many place qalb came with eyes and ears, which they arent metaphors, it doesnt make sense that 1/3 of these are metaphors in this verse
Also in 2246, in addition to thing that i mentioned above, it says that qalbs which are in sadrs(chests?) , it cant be metaphor, or simile, cuz it says فی الصدور , it talks about the location…also in verse about embryology it says that God gave you hearing, seeing and fawad, it cant be metaphor .
And also origin of all of the experssions you mentioned above is because of the ancient belief that humans think with their hearts.when i say this experssions, the person that i talk with knows that i know that we think with our brain, but in quran the word for brain=دماغ isnt even mentioned,
Peace
