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Does quran says humans think by heart?

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    Mahdi20
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    Peace good logic,

    U said it is produced through a combination of the heart , brain,, seeing hearing, doing ...etc

    How do you see? How do you hear? How you smell? How do you love? How do you fear? Where is the center of emotions? Why heart damage doesnt change your emotions? Why limbic system damage destroy your emotions? Does mental illness treatment include working on brain or heart? How does anti depression drugs work?Why people get depression? How do you do your acts? How do you solve math problems? What is the mechanism of ECT?
    Why some people are in coma? Why some are in vegetative state?

    Brother do you know why some people here say that its a metaphor or it has another meaning ? Because they have basic knowledge about our body.

    Brother you and everybody that says heart thinks have 6 ways

    1-Go read funny articles from unreliable sources
    2-Go read reliable sources
    3-Go to a Hospital and see people with brain/heart damage
    4-Go to university
    5-Ask a Professor
    6-Think by the way you like

    God bless you

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      centi50
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      Salam to all

      An-Naml 2716

      وَوَرِثَ سُلَيْمَٰنُ دَاوُۥدَۖ وَقَالَ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ عُلِّمْنَا مَنطِقَ ٱلطَّيْرِ وَأُوتِينَا مِن كُلِّ شَىْءٍۖ إِنَّ هَٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْفَضْلُ ٱلْمُبِينُ

      And Solomon inherited David. He said, "O people, we have been taught the language of birds, and we have been given from all things. Indeed, this is evident bounty."

      So to you ant is not ant bird is bird right?

      So tell us what are they please.

      What is your interpretation of these verses

      God bless all

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        good_logic
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        Peace Mahdi.

        We’re still a long way off from knowing for certain which parts of the brain create intelligence or whether any do , or whether this is even a reasonable puzzle to solve.
        P-FIT seems to be one of the theory around, No proof yet.
        As our technology and understanding develops, hopefully we’ll have a more complete picture of intelligence in the future.
        This is what I am telling you.
        Or state your proof.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          good_logic
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          Peace Mahdi20.

          This is continuing towards stale mate.
          You are insisting that science knows everything about the brain and heart, yet science is clearly saying that there are more to know about how we think and what and where is the intellect.
          If GOD is the one who created us ,surely GOD knows more than science?
          So what is your problem? You want to convince us that science has all our answers and that Qoran is not compatible and contradicts it?

          Look back at your posts, no evidence ,just your own argument in your own words about science and assumptions about Qoran.

          May be you also argue the same about our posts, in that case Qoran is wrong according to you. Is this where we should part company with our conversation and you ditch Qoran?
          I have no more to say brother except the following
          There is no equal to the one who created and controls every soul. Is science informing GOD of something on earth or anywhere else He does not know?
          I think you are just fabricating empty statements that science to its credit has not established yet and is still searching.
          Your choice, you do not have to believe Qoran, however you have not brought any evidence to confirm any contradiction or false statement in Qoran with science.

          Thank you brother.
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

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            Mahdi20
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            Peace Mahdi20.

            Look back at your posts, no evidence ,just your own argument in your own words

            nope pr

            Havent i telled you to go read any reliable book about physiology? yay rotfl

            Its is not logical to teach chapters of a book here, is it? peace nope

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              Mahdi20
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              Salam to all

              An-Naml 2716

              وَوَرِثَ سُلَيْمَٰنُ دَاوُۥدَۖ وَقَالَ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ عُلِّمْنَا مَنطِقَ ٱلطَّيْرِ وَأُوتِينَا مِن كُلِّ شَىْءٍۖ إِنَّ هَٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْفَضْلُ ٱلْمُبِينُ

              And Solomon inherited David. He said, "O people, we have been taught the language of birds, and we have been given from all things. Indeed, this is evident bounty."

              So to you ant is not ant bird is bird right?

              So tell us what are they please.

              What is your interpretation of these verses

              God bless all

              Brother read interpretation of dr shabbir ahmad ,muhammad ali,ghulam ahmed parwiz

              The first is available in quranix.org

              For the 2nd and 3rd search the net, i am busy otherwise i would send it here for you

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                Emre_1974tr
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                John, why do you continue this charade?

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                  Iyyaka
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                  peace, all languages billions (they’re not all dumb) speaking English "heart" symbolizes individual emotion as in Albanian "zemra" to Slavic "srce" to Zulu "inhliziyo" not always the physical pump.
                  Likewise, the same with "fuadu" and "qalb" CONTEXTE is your friend!

                  2810 واصبح and became فواد fuadu/heart (inner emotion) ام mother موسى Musa فارغا empty of (hopeless) ان indeed كادت near she لتبدى to disclose به in him لولا if not ان that ربطنا strengthened we of على upon قلبها qalbiha/heart (mind/persona) hers لتكون to she being من of المومنىن the believers (masculine plural)

                  Yes the verse 2810 expresses very well the richness and the subtlety of the Arabic language. 2 words which are, to my knowledge, always translated, in classical translations, by the word "heart" (fuadu and qalbiha) whereas they are two words with different roots which are used.

                  • al Fouad would come from fahada which contains the meaning of "to cook"
                    => thus here, in context, a "heart which burns", by the fact of having thrown/abandoned its child on water (one feels its emotion/inner state)

                  • al Qalb would come from taqaloub which contains the meaning of "turning-revering-inverting-changing of a thing, its mode or manner of being".
                    => Faced with the situation Musa's mother was balancing between two emotional and intellectual antagonistic inner states trust and fear. So, if God had not strengthened her "heart/alQalb" she could have disclosed everything (reversed God's plan), fear taking over.

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