Why does it feel like the bad guys always win

jkhan

Well.. Subject here raises is bad guys... And why they mostly seems to be winning since they opted to be bad instead of being truthful... Of course for bad guys to achieve targets with unethical application of ways is much easier coz deceiving people is definitely take place in their effort to reach the goal. But good guys never if they really good coupled with belief in God..

But point here is do bad guys always end up winning..? That's far from truth... Bad guys efforts short lives be it material gain or in other aspects of life. Deception won't last.. Such people will never have peace.. Coz they keep planning day and night for deceiving others... This unethical trauma is never give them peace... Without peace of mind what is winning? How can one win when his inner self is unrest...

Well about GL and Emere statements..
I think for good guys earning money is absolutely fine.. No harm at all. But accumulating without purpose or without spending them is wierd and bizzare..
Suppose if GL has an intention of buying a reasonable house.. Definitely he needs to earn money and accumalte unless he go for the option of borrowing .. So this purpose allows a person to accumulate. What harm in it.. So GL night have millions without spending.. But he has a target..
But if a person is accomplished money while all his basic and even vanity purposes are accomplished and still accumalte without any immediate purpose then he is in wrong path... Being such a rich person Defibitely violate God's instructions... How can he become that much rich, if has shared his wealth among poor.. Is rich given to accumalte or to help others.. As a believer doesn't he know the benefit of charity. . Beyond the necessity then spend.. That cobdition is violated by hoarding wealth...
Don't blame Sulaiman.. How do you know how much he spent on poor. How rich hus community was who knows...
He got power and strength... It doesnt mean he was hoarding wealth.. He enjoyed.. For sure. What harm... He was an accepted believer by God.. How could then he be a hoarder.. Never.. He was blessed... He was not greedy for wealth. But he was special.. And full of mercy from God ..
God says their wealth they hoarded will be burden for them on the day of ressurection .. So. Wealthy person is wealthy still if he spend them with proper planning.. Don't throw all your riches... Don't tie your hands. .

Emre_1974tr

Peace Emre.
This is a false assumption about what Qoran says regarding David and Solomon,quote

"of course, one can become a trillionaire in a halal way. The prophets David and Solomon were even more wealthy than today's trillionaires. They are the richest people of all time. Also, as I said, other prophets were also rich for a while, mostly."

I see you haven't fully recovered from the pagan communist bible, my friend.

Of course, the Prophets David and Solomon used their wealth for the good of people. But never that wealth was given to them on the condition of sharing it with others. Or, that wealth was not given for the country and the state. All of them were given wealth for individuality.

Holy Quran

3839 "This is Our gift, so you may spend or withhold, without any repercussions."

The full literal translation of this verse says for Solomon, "Whether you share it or hold it, you are free."

Riches and splendor were bestowed upon them, just as in heaven.

There are countless other verses like this, describing that wealth is given to the individual.

As a trillionaire, you share this halal wealth with people and make other people get rich.

It's for the good of others that you become a trillionaire. The world would be a heavenly place if every rich man was lawfully rich and spent his wealth for the good of the world.

But work starts with the individual first. Just as faith first begins with the individual and then spreads to others. Or just as health starts from a part of cells and then spreads to the whole body.

The more wealth you have, the better. The more your individual health, the better. And the more individual goodness and faith you have, the better. Then he will be able to benefit from this wealth of yours all over the world.

David, Solomon, and other prophets were enriched personally, not because they were heads of state, but because they were individually deserved. Verses say this over and over. Please stop injecting the nonsense of pagan communist philosophy into Islam.

Peace

good_logic

You see brother jkhan, I like what you said.
We have now reached a dangerous situation as humans.
We accept what we are told by our systems and accept without questions certain ridiculous situations.

GOD does not come into it or have a say in anything as far as human systems are concerned.

Yet GOD gave us all our resources and created for us means to help us live and get our basics of life like food and shelter
Who was given the water rights from GOD? Who was given the oil, gas, animals, lands ,gold, silver and all the natural resources of our living necessities ?

As far as GOD was concerned the earth was prepared for us with all these things in it to share together all of us humans.

GOD knew many will deprive others from their rights and take as much as they are allowed or allow themselves by force or cunning , and justify their greed as deserved need.
So GOD promised to allow the test for humans. He sent his instructions and guidance to all and they are free to choose GOD s way or their unjust ways.

Now we accept billionaires because we are told they set up businesses or were put in power or GOD knows how and it is their right to have their billions.

Billions to some of us are just accepted numbers and facts and some billionaires deserve what they have!!! ,but we never think that billions are really big and impossible numbers for any honest business or individual to reach under normal and fair conditions.

I am asking No single person can spend even one billion in his/her entire life unless they waste millions of it?
What justification can one have that he/she needs and deserves billions for themselves?

On reflection we should REALLY ask what does GOD say to us in His instructions?
May be brother Emre will come up with a list that justifies someone needs even one billion for their needs in life?
GOD bless.
Peace.

hawk99

Peace,

Here's an interesting video, it's about 25 minutes long about social influencers, be patient and watch the whole thing, very informative.

https//youtu.be/9QPyPy3ifwg

Blue_Lobster

Feels like?

No, it doesn't feel like it. They ARE winning, and this for two reasons

One Your so-called "God" is an indifferent sadist who created filth, scum and villainy (99% of humankind) in his own image, and let them run amok to their hearts' content.
Two The remaining 1% are zombified sheep who think that conspiracy is just a "theory".

There you have it. The perfect recipe for the f#%&ed-up world you live in.

Enjoy it while it lasts. bravo

good_logic

Peace Blue_Lobster

May be this is how we humans got here
The beginning of Creation...
God created humanity and he told his angels to assemble all the human parts. There were mountains of; head, arms, legs and every other body parts. And he explained how to assemble the parts. Heads on shoulders, arms by the side, etc.

So they started making a lot of people because they had a lot of each part. In the end, there were too many ars holes left. The head of Angels, Michael went to see God ask what they should do.

God explained that he was already resting because he was on the 7th day of the creation. He did not want to make other body parts.
After thinking a bit he told Angel Michael to send the ars holes just by themselves on Earth.

He proclaimed... Do not worry some of them will become billionaires and some will become pains in the backside and many will just be feeling the pain.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Euphoric

Only winners and losers will be in the next life after judgement day.

Being rich or poor in this life means nothing. How one serves Allah is what only matters.

Jafar

Everything in this universe is created based on the conception of 'opposing pair'.
In order for "winning" to exist, it's opposing pair, "losing" must exist.
In order for somebody to "win", somebody else need to "lose".

As such that "good guys" do not seek to "win" as winning requires somebody else to "lose".

Only "bad guys" seek to "win" as bad guys are basically proud, narcissistic, ego-centric, self-centered personality who doesn't care about others and his world-view constantly seek to make others "lose" in order for him/her/their self to "win".

I quote a popular Zen story from Japan, about an encounter between a warlord and a monk.

During the civil wars in feudal Japan, an invading army would quickly sweep into a town and take control. In one particular village, everyone fled just before the army arrived – everyone except an old monk. Curious about this old fellow, the warlord went to the temple to see for himself what kind of man this monk was.

When he wasn’t treated with the deference and submissiveness to which he was accustomed, the warlord burst into anger. “You stupid monk!,” he shouted as he reached for his sword, “don’t you realize you are standing before a man who could cut you in half without blinking an eye!” But despite the threat, the monk seemed unmoved.

“And do you realize,” the monk replied calmly, “that you are standing before a man who can be cut in half without blinking an eye?”

good_logic

So you fancy being a billionaire?
How many billions do you want to own?
Then you start the pretence of giving and helping others with petty cash and controlling the economy/ others with your hoarding and games played with your partners in crimes?
What did you make your billions with? wars? Drugs? Intimidation and legal theft?

Or legitimate business and hard work?

OK, let us assume one earns three millions a year? Or do you not agree three millions is more than enough for anyone needs per year?
Do you know people who earn three millions a year? How many? How long does it take them to make one billion?
Assuming they pay tax and pay living costs will cost them approximate to 1.5 million per year.
So it will take them 75 years to own one billion!!!!
But some are worth 100 billions or even few trillions I am told! . They are not even half that age!!
Or have they made their billions quickly through gambling and distortions and riba?

Sorry even 100 trillions is not enough to buy the hereafter folks

If those who transgressed owned everything on earth, even twice as much, they would readily give it up to avoid the terrible retribution on the Day of Resurrection. They will be shown by God what they never expected.
وَلَو أَنَّ لِلَّذينَ ظَلَموا ما فِى الأَرضِ جَميعًا وَمِثلَهُ مَعَهُ لَافتَدَوا بِهِ مِن سوءِ العَذابِ يَومَ القِيٰمَةِ وَبَدا لَهُم مِنَ اللَّهِ ما لَم يَكونوا يَحتَسِبونَ
The sinful works they had earned will be shown to them, and the very things they used to mock will come back to haunt them.
وَبَدا لَهُم سَيِّـٔاتُ ما كَسَبوا وَحاقَ بِهِم ما كانوا بِهِ يَستَهزِءونَ

Human Fickleness, greed and arrogance!!

If the human is touched by adversity, he implores us, but as soon as we bestow a blessing upon him, he says, "I attained this because of my cleverness!" Indeed, this is only a test, but most of them do not know.
فَإِذا مَسَّ الإِنسٰنَ ضُرٌّ دَعانا ثُمَّ إِذا خَوَّلنٰهُ نِعمَةً مِنّا قالَ إِنَّما أوتيتُهُ عَلىٰ عِلمٍ بَل هِىَ فِتنَةٌ وَلٰكِنَّ أَكثَرَهُم لا يَعلَمونَ
Those before them have uttered the same thing, and their earnings did not help them in the least.
قَد قالَهَا الَّذينَ مِن قَبلِهِم فَما أَغنىٰ عَنهُم ما كانوا يَكسِبونَ
They suffered the consequences of their evil works. Similarly, the transgressors among the present generation will suffer the consequences of their evil works; they cannot escape.
فَأَصابَهُم سَيِّـٔاتُ ما كَسَبوا وَالَّذينَ ظَلَموا مِن هٰؤُلاءِ سَيُصيبُهُم سَيِّـٔاتُ ما كَسَبوا وَما هُم بِمُعجِزينَ
Do they not realize that God is the One who increases the provision for whomever He chooses, and withholds? These are lessons for people who believe.
أَوَلَم يَعلَموا أَنَّ اللَّهَ يَبسُطُ الرِّزقَ لِمَن يَشاءُ وَيَقدِرُ إِنَّ فى ذٰلِكَ لَـٔايٰتٍ لِقَومٍ يُؤمِنونَ

Go ahead those who ignore the reality ,make your billions,waste as much as you want . It will be all yours and you will be famous and respected here.

Surely if one followed the best path shown to us by GOD will never get to that amount!!!

And follow the best path that is pointed out for you by your Lord, before the retribution overtakes you suddenly when you least expect it.
وَاتَّبِعوا أَحسَنَ ما أُنزِلَ إِلَيكُم مِن رَبِّكُم مِن قَبلِ أَن يَأتِيَكُمُ العَذابُ بَغتَةً وَأَنتُم لا تَشعُرونَ
Lest a soul may say, "How sorry I am for disregarding God's commandments; I was certainly one of the mockers."
أَن تَقولَ نَفسٌ يٰحَسرَتىٰ عَلىٰ ما فَرَّطتُ فى جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السّٰخِرينَ
Or say, "Had God guided me, I would have been with the righteous."
أَو تَقولَ لَو أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدىٰنى لَكُنتُ مِنَ المُتَّقينَ
Or say, when it sees the retribution, "If I get another chance, I will work righteousness."
أَو تَقولَ حينَ تَرَى العَذابَ لَو أَنَّ لى كَرَّةً فَأَكونَ مِنَ المُحسِنينَ

But some will justify to have billions and claim they earned it?
GOD bless you.
Peace

Emre_1974tr