Nudity in the form of Art
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Salam Jaxal, all
An example would be wearing shorts. My wife can wear shorts in my house in front me. There is no sin in that. Same goes for me. But wll i allow my wife wearing shorts out in the public? No. Same goes for sleeveless shirts. Its ok in the my house. But not outside.
Now I'm really surprised Brother
You like nude art and see nothing bad in it... but don't allow your wife to go out in Shorts...
OKFor me nudity and being ashamed about it becomes a problem when you have kids and and on the one hand you don't want them to be too "open" so you teach them to be ashamed in point of nudism. But on the other hand I don't want to be my kids as being ashamed as I am cause I know how it may prevent from enjoying some things. This is really not easy.
Its good that their father is more open in those things so they don't learn from only one side.However its not only education which makes us open or ashamed. But also type of charakter, I guess.
But once you are a more ashamed character, it is hard to change. And propably the other way round.
Salams
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SaLaM warda
No no its really simple. Nude Art is an art. ITs like "Mona Lisa" or "The Storm" or "The Last Supper". It is all art. But going out in shorts, thats against God. God says cover your self to both men and women. So even I wont go out in shorts which are above my knees. There are shorts which are below the knee. I have no problem if my wife wants to go out in those. Coz i would be wearing them . But i wont allow her to go outside wearing shorts which are above the knees or sleeveless shirts. I can wear sleeveless shirts coz i dont have boobies. So there is nothing sexual about me wearing sleeveless shirts.
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Salaam all especially sister warda wink and welcome to Nadeem
Nudity or til what point can you show yourbody really is a question of environment.
At my house or with other women around I'm a very free person. But not in public. when i was about 25 (long time ago shock ) i tried miniskirts which everybody wore then...i just couldn't do it - although my minis were just above the knee - not so mini...
My daughter (12) is the exact contrary. Although she's much more timid than i am she doesn't see no problem in showing her belly - becoz everybody does it at her school and they have no second thought about it. I'm afraid though of the guys in the street who have different reaction than fellow school kids...especially here in Maghreb. We found a compromise and i have her wear something around her waist - t-shirt with long sleeves or so - in order not to espose herself. Dress code is really for protection i believe and in order not to shock people which might have a different way of life - so that's what i try to explain when we discuss this subject.
But nudity in itself is not as such shameful or dirty. Everything always is in the mind.
Bye, LK
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I think the problem is not with nudity but the person who interprets it. Do you think most ppl gets aroused in the art gallery seeing a nude art ? I dont think so. Only a pervert mind would do so and no matter what a pervert mind will always find a reason to stimulate him/herself.
So which is best for us ? To open our mind or get more conservative ?
best for us is to lower our gaze .
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SaLaM TheNabi
You are right. Someone will always find the other person attractive and sexy. But im saying, its different when women wear sleeveless shirts becoz they have boobies. Men dont have them so its not obviously sexual for men to wear sleeveless shirts.
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Salaam,
I saw a man with tits yesterday. Male and female breasts are basically the same thing. Women produce milk because they will have children. Males too actually have these very same mammary glans and can lactate.
By the way, females are attracted to men with nice chests just as men tend to be attracted to females with nice chests. So I wonder if you will reconsider your position about it not being sexual in men.
Joe
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Salaam,
Hey are we not too much below the belt now?
Peace
Sis Majidah -
and also want to know ur opinions about
- posing nude for "art" .
- and what if some "artist" draws a nude painting of someone close to u , for example your wife or sis . and says "its only art!" . do u all have a problem with that or not ? no offense .
peace.
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SaLaM
Joe, bruv there is a different between man boobies and woman boobies. Lollllllllllllllll. They are not the same! ITs not the same thing!!!
Saladin, Just so you know, all the paintings i have mentioned, they were completely created out of the painter's mind. No one posed nude for them.
I dont know why anyone would pose nude for art, unless they just want it for themselves or something. Not a good excuse but still people do it. I cant really understand why.
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The artist is the creator of beautiful things.
To reveal art and conceal the artist is art's aim.
The critic is he who can translate into another manner or a new material his impression of beautiful things.Those who find ugly meanings in beautiful things are corrupt without being charming. This is a fault.
Those who find beautiful meanings in beautiful things are the cultivated. For these there is hope. They are the elect to whom beautiful things mean only beauty.
No artist desires to prove anything.
Even things that are true can be proved.
No artist is ever morbid.
The artist can express everything.
Thought and language are to the artist instruments of an art.From the point of view of form, the type of all the arts is the art of the musician. From the point of view of feeling, the actor's craft is the type.
All art is at once surface and symbol.
Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril.
Those who read the symbol do so at their peril.We can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it. The only excuse for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely.
All art is quite useless.
-preface to "The Picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde
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Salam Nelke sun
My daughter (12) is the exact contrary. Although she's much more timid than i am she doesn't see no problem in showing her belly - becoz everybody does it at her school and they have no second thought about it. I'm afraid though of the guys in the street who have different reaction than fellow school kids...especially here in Maghreb. We found a compromise and i have her wear something around her waist - t-shirt with long sleeves or so - in order not to espose herself. Dress code is really for protection i believe and in order not to shock people which might have a different way of life - so that's what i try to explain when we discuss this subject.
Bye, LKSee, coz I don't wanna have discussions every day about that, I want to educate my daughter in that way that she doesn't want to wear that kind of stuff by her own.
when i was about 25 (long time ago ) i tried miniskirts which everybody wore then...i just couldn't do it - although my minis were just above the knee - not so mini...
I remember when I was young ( ? ) I mean a teenager, I used to wear tight things or mini although I didn't feel comfortable in it. But just to bee cool I weard it....so stupid!
Salam Jaxal,
Saladin, Just so you know, all the paintings i have mentioned, they were completely created out of the painter's mind. No one posed nude for them.
How do you know that?
Salams
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Salam Jaxal,
SaLaM Warda
Looking at those paintings, do u think someone actually posed for them? Do u think Mona Lisa was a real person?
?? Uff,.... I thought that the artist needs the model to paint exactly. For me it looks as if someone posed for them.And yes, I thought there was a woman posing for Da Vinci, not with exactly that smile... but a real woman. ?
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Peace Jaxal,
Are you an art fan or just nude art heheh? I don't know which...but most everyone knows most artists use real models unless one is Picasso...they were normally commissioned by rich people to paint their families or themselves or other stuff depending on what the artist was famous for...the Mona Lisa is also known as La Gioconda, the wife of Francesco del Giocondo. My fave artists are Vermeer and Monet btw...you can google to find out more about the history of Mona Lisa if you want...
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SaLaM SC
Im always afraid of arguing with you SC Loll but Mona Lisa isnt a real person. No one posed for that painting. I looked into it a long time ago when the move Mona Lisa Smile came out lolll . I was thinking it was somehow based on a real person called Mona Lisa. By the way, here is a funny pic i made of Mona Lisa Lolllllllllllllll
http//www.geocities.com/bigjaxal/monalisa.png
BTW SC, there is only painting i like from Vermeer, "The girl with the pearl earring"
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SaLaM TheNabi
You are right. Someone will always find the other person attractive and sexy. But im saying, its different when women wear sleeveless shirts becoz they have boobies. Men dont have them so its not obviously sexual for men to wear sleeveless shirts.
A friend of mine once told me...muscles on guys works as boobies on girls (for attraction)..P
peace