Myth of Islamic Scholars
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Shoud there be a Religious Scholar? Islam is not a Religion and we have these so called Islamic Scholars, who everyone approach....i am confused why and how this happened?
Muslims of the past can't get rid of the need for priests I guess.
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Disagreed. To have scholars in al-islaam , i.e people who are experts in the understanding of al-islaam cannot be a bad thing unless
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they professionalise it, they seek wealth in exchange for studying the ayaat.
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they formalise it, they say that unless you come through our institution, you're not a scholar.
sunnism's done both of the above. Quranism will too, when the time comes. It's an inescapable sunna.
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Al-islaam exists in the world and also in al-quraan. To understand it in both dimensions, study needs to be performed. People who have studied longer and deeper should be approached in order to get oneself up to speed. I have benefitted much from such consultations.
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Those scholars was refered to in the Quran as "The people who have knowledge"
I'm not saying I agree with the title, in fact I don't agree with the scholar title because people may call themselves whatever but at the end of the day their knowledge and sense will be the only things that count
The Quran also stated that this knowledge is given by Allah to anyone and we should ask Him to increase our knowledge
The Quran also told us that the humans who are the most to fear Allah are the ones with knowledge "Al Olamaa"
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I understand what you're saying Ahmed, but there are always people who are better at something than others. Like athletes. In the same way, people have understanding of the Quran on different levels. That doesnt mean there has to be a select group of "olema" who decide everything. Being knowledgeble is not a proffesion or even a title. Everyone has knowledge to a certain extent and we all have the ability to gain more knowledge.
But the bottom line always is, to be absolutely sure of something, we have to find it out for ourselves. And following the "ones with knowledge" without having any knowledge ourselves means we're following those people and not God. -
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I understand what you're saying Ahmed, but there are always people who are better at something than others. Like athletes. In the same way, people have understanding of the Quran on different levels. That doesnt mean there has to be a select group of "olema" who decide everything. Being knowledgeble is not a proffesion or even a title. Everyone has knowledge to a certain extent and we all have the ability to gain more knowledge.
But the bottom line always is, to be absolutely sure of something, we have to find it out for ourselves. And following the "ones with knowledge" without having any knowledge ourselves means we're following those people and not God.Of course bro here is the Quran confirming what you just said
13- And We have made every man's actions to cling to his neck, and We will bring forth to him on the resurrection day a book which he will find wide open
14- Read your book; your own self is sufficient as a reckoner against you this day.
15- Whoever goes aright, for his own soul does he go aright; and whoever goes astray, to its detriment only does he go astray nor can the bearer of a burden bear the burden of another, nor do We chastise until We raise a messenger.
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thanks.
and is that your car in your avatar?Peace bro
yeh man the Quran is just an amazing book, it has all the answers to any question regarding God, this testing life, death and the judgment
For the photo bro she is my second wife, I married her over 10 years ago and our relation is damn strong and I tell you mate unlike the first wife, my second always listens to me where ever I tell her to go, I love her bro. my first wife surely very jealouse of her, true lol
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To get things back on topic...
I agree that some people will have more knowledge of some things than others, they are the ulama--'knowledgeable men'. I don't have problems with the existence of the ulama. The problem would be the fact that the so-called ulama of religious knowledge are sometimes elevated by the masses/authorities (or even by themselves) to the status of priests where they have absolute authority.
I think most people here would agree with that.
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I agree that some people will have more knowledge of some things than others, they are the ulama--'knowledgeable men'. I don't have problems with the existence of the ulama. The problem would be the fact that the so-called ulama of religious knowledge are sometimes elevated by the masses/authorities (or even by themselves) to the status of priests where they have absolute authority.
I think most people here would agree with that.
I disagree that it happens sometimes
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I disagree that it happens sometimes
Not all of them are 'elevated' to priests, hence sometimes.
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As far as I am concerned the 'scholars of Islam' are exactly that - scholars of popular Islam.
Popular Islam is a blend of Arabian ideas with some Judeo-Christian thought, and large helping of Persian concepts. And these are the experts in these fields.
Depending on locality as well, local customs can be added to the mix and subsequently become part of popular Islam.
For me, I take the text as if it were revealed just now, with no baggage.