help on meat issue
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peace nabster,
how CAN you know for sure?
If a person believes that only slaughtered meat is halal then he problem is that you can NEVER be sure unless you actually perform the slaughter yourself. I remember last year there was a minor scandal in parts of europe over certain brands of halal chicken being found to have been injected with pig hormones in order to increase their mass. Someone I know has a relative who sells non slaughtered meat in what is supposed to be a halal restaurant. This is only hearsay but supposedly there has been cases of butchers who would buy a few items from a supplier of halal products just so that they obtain a reciept only to then make up the rest of their stock from cheaper non slaughtered meat. Now if anyone queries the origin of their meat they produce the reciept from the halal supplier.
If you buy food from any third party you will always run the risk that it is not 100% official, it's the chance we all have to take
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peace nabster,
how CAN you know for sure?
If a person believes that only slaughtered meat is halal then he problem is that you can NEVER be sure unless you actually perform the slaughter yourself. I remember last year there was a minor scandal in parts of europe over certain brands of halal chicken being found to have been injected with pig hormones in order to increase their mass. Someone I know has a relative who sells non slaughtered meat in what is supposed to be a halal restaurant. This is only hearsay but supposedly there has been cases of butchers who would buy a few items from a supplier of halal products just so that they obtain a reciept only to then make up the rest of their stock from cheaper non slaughtered meat. Now if anyone queries the origin of their meat they produce the reciept from the halal supplier.
If you buy food from any third party you will always run the risk that it is not 100% official, it's the chance we all have to take
YEha my parents say that we should trust them .... Allah will punish them if their lying! I dont know what to do. They say that how do they know whether the meat has been fried/boiled alongside pork etc etc ..
I dont know what to do and how to convince them again .. I can show them the Quran but I want a kick-ass aticle which explains the verses in detail and supports the idea of us eating christians/jews meat!
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Peace ammar
The following thread may be of some help http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5562.0
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I dont know what to do and how to convince them again .. I can show them the Quran but I want a kick-ass aticle which explains the verses in detail and supports the idea of us eating christians/jews meat! So any article available ?
The thing they say is that they dont know whether the meat has been cooked in the same pan as pork etc etc ... I am working on an email to send them so if someone could help me, that'll be great !! -
AOA
can anyone give me any sites apart from this one explaininng that the meat in western countries is alright to eat .. cant find any other websites ... hehe my family used to eat the meat but now they recently stopped .. so wanna convince them !to start eating again ..You invoke your self if you were in doubt
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AOA
can anyone give me any sites apart from this one explaininng that the meat in western countries is alright to eat .. cant find any other websites ... hehe my family used to eat the meat but now they recently stopped .. so wanna convince them !to start eating again ..You invoke your self if you were in dount
So ur saying that I am not fully convinced myself !?
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peace ammar
try this link
http//www.submission.org/halal-meat.html
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peace ammar
try this link
http//www.submission.org/halal-meat.html
Thanks for the site man ... any other one ?
What do you think about the doubt that the western people might cook chicken, lamb meat in the same pan as pork? Will that make the meat haram ? -
As salamu alaykum.
Respectfully.Look, all you need to do is read the Qur'an. Like others on this forum agree with me, Allah Most Merciful has explained it all to us, what to it, what not toe at, what to do if you kill someone or how much zakah to give, it's ALL in the Qur'an.
If Allah Most Powerul wanted to go into EVERY SINGLE SPECIFICS, He would have, but Allah Most High is so Merciful, that He S.W.T., left some things for us to decide, because Allah Most Powerful knows ALL and He also knows that we will be different is some view and have different tastes and likes and dislikes.
Read the Qur'an regarding meat and you'll know.
May Allah reward you with Paradise.
As salamu alaykum. -
Yeah I have Alen but I just want extended explaination of the verses. I know its straightforward and I agree with that but persuading parents is the hard part ...
I just read this article saying we cant eat their meat because the Christians nowadays are not christians so we cant eat their meat! Instead their athiests! ... What do ya think ? -
Yeah I have Alen but I just want extended explaination of the verses. I know its straightforward and I agree with that but persuading parents is the hard part ...
I just read this article saying we cant eat their meat because the Christians nowadays are not christians so we cant eat their meat! Instead their athiests! ... What do ya think ?Salaam.
You don't have to convince your parents or anyone else into anything. If Allah Most Merciful doesn't want to show them a Right Path, He won't. I think that Allah s.w.t., has sealed hearts of many of my family members and i cannot convince them to stop smoking or taking interests, or drinking booz or ..... start praying and fasting.
However, if Allah Most Powerful wants them on the Right Path, He and He alone, will guide them. Because only He can.
If christians of today are eating pork, than we can't obviously eat pork, because they have abandoned religion altogether and started following their lusts. We can eat other meat sheep, lamb, deer, goat, cow, chicken, duck, fish, squid, .....
Well, i'm not sure, if people eat goats and lambs but ..... Allah Most Merciful knows best.Salaam. jedi
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How can we be sure that the animal they slaughtered was not dead before ? I mean you just have these doubts in your mind ..
Salaam, sisters and brothers. peace
When you walk up to the store where you see meat in those freezers, i'm sure that the animal just came from under a knife.
Why?
Because, once the animal starts dying and in outdoors, it starts to stink and no person in his right mind would try to sell it, because he or she knows, the inspectors would make his or her life a living Hell.Why would a good merchant, a person who wants to earn money, regardless of relion, lie to people when he knows he can breed animals and sell them? He's not gonna go around the city and pick up dead pidgeons and try to sell them as pieces of a cow. No, he's gonna buy a farm, breed chicken, cows, sheep, .... and than sell, sell, sell, sell.
Salaam.
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How can we be sure that the animal they slaughtered was not dead before ? I mean you just have these doubts in your mind ..
well in the US the USDA inspects the meat, i am sure in the UK it should be the same as well
I understand the kind of questions you are asking, but you cant be sure of any of that, you just have to go w/ it with the best of intentions. Remember God didn't mean any hardship in us practicing our system/religion. You can't make sure in any of the so called islamic countries that the animals didnt die of their own either. But if somebody is selling meat that they say is genuine but its really not. The fault is on them, they will be held accountable. Since we can't know their minds you know
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How can we be sure that the animal they slaughtered was not dead before ? I mean you just have these doubts in your mind ..
well in the US the USDA inspects the meat, i am sure in the UK it should be the same as well
I understand the kind of questions you are asking, but you cant be sure of any of that, you just have to go w/ it with the best of intentions. Remember God didn't mean any hardship in us practicing our system/religion. You can't make sure in any of the so called islamic countries that the animals didnt die of their own either. But if somebody is selling meat that they say is genuine but its really not. The fault is on them, they will be held accountable. Since we can't know their minds you know
Thats true mate !! Why should we be held responsible for something wrong the other person did ? .. I mean Allah is just so yah no need to worry about anything !
Btw ok this will sound stupid but is it in the western law that a dead animal should not be slaughtered ? -
peace
no it doesnt sound stupid at all
i am pretty sure it is, a dead animal like that could be un-safe for society, who knows what disease it has.. thats why God didn't allow it because it could be sick and what not