Veil in Saudi Arabia-- Do You Find This Interesting?
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Peace,
TAJ, it is a quote from Shahroor's book, i'm still investigating his understandings, but i find them intruiging, that is why i posted them...
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arabic? what is that? O0
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arabic? what is that? O0
LOL
he looks funny though, Sudanease possibly
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I love myself tooooooo..............but also i don't know why..........
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Peace Ahmed,
Muhammah Shar7roor is a real person. He basically is trying to reinterpret Al Quran by creating a whole new meaning to the Arabic words. He is very entertaining in his TV interviews and has a great sense of humor, but you wouldn't see any body who is knowledgeable in Arabic language buying his talk!
It seems Sha7roor is a real person
sorry Taj, i thought it was a good joke by you, LOL
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Peace Arnold,
Peace,
TAJ, it is a quote from Shahroor's book, i'm still investigating his understandings, but i find them intruiging, that is why i posted them...arabic? what is that? O0
The <Zeena> of a woman is identified in the same verse when GOD commands her to ?cover? her Zeena which is the <Jayb>.
<JAYB> in Arabic is used for any opening with TWO sides to it. Thus for the body of a woman, the <Jayb> would be the area of the breasts, the area under the arms, the vagina area <Farj> as well as the hands, feet, nose, mouth and
ears. It is incorrect to define <Jayb> as merely the breasts of a woman since that will lead to a wrong understanding of the minimum dress-code requirements (i.e the woman can cover her breasts and walk around naked revealing everything else).From which Arabic dictionary did Shahroor bring that the Jayb means the Zeenah? Those two words have a completely different meaning.
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Why do you think i was still investigating it......
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Peace Ahmed,
Muhammah Shar7roor is a real person. He basically is trying to reinterpret Al Quran by creating a whole new meaning to the Arabic words. He is very entertaining in his TV interviews and has a great sense of humor, but you wouldn't see any body who is knowledgeable in Arabic language buying his talk!
It seems Sha7roor is a real person
sorry Taj, i thought it was a good joke by you, LOL
Thank you sister
i must check him out, i never heard of him actually
does he have a web site?
cheers
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Peace Trn,
i have spoken to many women who wear the veil and most say they wear it because they choose to. to protect themselves from mens thoughts. most people believe women are forced to but women are not they wear it proudly.
I love my veil. It does a wondrous job in protecting me from the harsh weather! But to protect me from men's thoughts... mm..?
What some men think of women is really their problem not ours and I am not here to slove it or make it easier for them.. However, if a man is thinking "something" about me and then I would sense it in his behaviour.. I then would just avoid any possible direct contact with such person, not only by the veil, as that won't stop him, but by avoiding being in his way altogether, especially when you know that it is not just my body and face but also because my voice and my way of talking can be very attractive too, as well as my aura, all parts of me that I cannot cover or change!Proud of wearing the veil? All women should be proud of themselves with or without veil. Pride, by itself, is a great wall/hijab against lusty, mischievous men. A proud woman would never allow a man to take the wrong step towards her.
And,, welcome to the forum, Trn )
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Salam AhmedBahgat, all,
Peace Ahmed,
Muhammah Shar7roor is a real person. He basically is trying to reinterpret Al Quran by creating a whole new meaning to the Arabic words. He is very entertaining in his TV interviews and has a great sense of humor, but you wouldn't see any body who is knowledgeable in Arabic language buying his talk!
It seems Sha7roor is a real person
sorry Taj, i thought it was a good joke by you, LOL
Thank you sister
i must check him out, i never heard of him actually
does he have a web site?
cheers
Dr. Shahrour is the best of the best!-) I had a chance to talk to him on phone last year when I was working with a team translating his book, he is cool, open, and I like a lot his objectivity. I haven't seen him once having that language on "sects" and what each group is doing (the labeling habit that most of people have when they want to refute other schools of thought). He has a website www.shahrour.org.
HOpe the above helps.
Peace. Myr. -
Peace Myr, All
Muhammah Shar7roor is a real person. He basically is trying to reinterpret Al Quran by creating a whole new meaning to the Arabic words. He is very entertaining in his TV interviews and has a great sense of humor, but you wouldn't see any body who is knowledgeable in Arabic language buying his talk!
Dr. Shahrour is the best of the best!-) I had a chance to talk to him on phone last year when I was working with a team translating his book, he is cool, open, and I like a lot his objectivity. I haven't seen him once having that language on "sects" and what each group is doing (the labeling habit that most of people have when they want to refute other schools of thought).
He is cool alright and so much fun to watch as he has a charming personality that would carry you awayyyyyyy
but if you try to verify it you would find that some (and some is enough) of what he says is baseless; not found in any Arabic dictionaries.. that's all.. I love Shahroor but, for the love of Allah, I can't buy what Shahroor says. -
Salam Taj,
Peace Myr, All
Muhammah Shar7roor is a real person. He basically is trying to reinterpret Al Quran by creating a whole new meaning to the Arabic words. He is very entertaining in his TV interviews and has a great sense of humor, but you wouldn't see any body who is knowledgeable in Arabic language buying his talk!
Dr. Shahrour is the best of the best!-) I had a chance to talk to him on phone last year when I was working with a team translating his book, he is cool, open, and I like a lot his objectivity. I haven't seen him once having that language on "sects" and what each group is doing (the labeling habit that most of people have when they want to refute other schools of thought).
He is cool alright and so much fun to watch as he has a charming personality that would carry you awayyyyyyy
but if you try to verify it you would find that some (and some is enough) of what he says is baseless; not found in any Arabic dictionaries.. that's all.. I love Shahroor but, for the love of Allah, I can't buy what Shahroor says.Saying that somebody is cool and open does not mean everything he says or does is correct or that you have to agree with everything and anything he claims. I myself disagree with him on several issues and let us remember even the prophets did mistakes and were recalled on several issues. However, Dr Shahrour has an engineering mind that most of the scholars and people do not have and that he successfuly (to my undestanding of course-)) used in his books to tackle the issues he wanted to tackle.
Can you give us an example of that "some is enough" that you could not verify? Thank you.Peace. Myr.
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Salam AhmedBahgat, all,
Peace Ahmed,
Muhammah Shar7roor is a real person. He basically is trying to reinterpret Al Quran by creating a whole new meaning to the Arabic words. He is very entertaining in his TV interviews and has a great sense of humor, but you wouldn't see any body who is knowledgeable in Arabic language buying his talk!
It seems Sha7roor is a real person
sorry Taj, i thought it was a good joke by you, LOL
Thank you sister
i must check him out, i never heard of him actually
does he have a web site?
cheers
Dr. Shahrour is the best of the best!-) I had a chance to talk to him on phone last year when I was working with a team translating his book, he is cool, open, and I like a lot his objectivity. I haven't seen him once having that language on "sects" and what each group is doing (the labeling habit that most of people have when they want to refute other schools of thought). He has a website www.shahrour.org.
HOpe the above helps.
Peace. Myr.Thank you sister, now I have two contradicting oipinions regarding that man, well I can;t take any of what you both said sisters unless i find out myself and honestly state my opinion regarding what he promotes about the Quran
thank again myr for the link
peace
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To Taj
Prof. Sha7roor did not say "jabe" means "zeena". he explained it by its meaning in the verse where Allah asked Moses to put his hand in (jabika your jabe), and by the linguistic meaning of its its root.
Also, who said knowledgeable people in Arabic language do not buy his talk? It is just the opposite, i.e only people knowledgeable in Arabic do understand him.
He is Syrian, professor in Mechanical engineering, and a master in Arabic language and linguistics. He explains the words in the Qur'aan by their usage in the Qur'aan (hence his differentiation between The Book and The Qur'aan) and by refering to the oldest Arabic dictionary by Abu Fares and the linguistic works of Jirjani and Tha`laba.
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Salam Taj,
Peace Myr,
You can check few posts back in this thread.. Yes, I know that he studied engineering in Eastern Europe.
Your answer shows me that you could not answer my question. Peace. Myr.