The differcence between Rashad Khalifa and the Hislamics regarding the Quran

jonny_k

Peace all,
Here in this post i wanna very clearly point out what exactly is the difference btw RKs beliefs and those of the traditional Muslims(Hislamics), REGADRING THE QURAN only. We know that both of them accept the Quran is Divine revelation and a marvellous Book. The difference is Hislamics do this mostly because that is what theyve been told over and over again by the society they live in i.e. musllahs, clerics, etc brainwashed them. Some point out scientifc foreknowledge in the Quran(infact 2130 was the one which lead me as a 12 yr old kid believe in the authenticity of the Quran) but that doesnt necessarily mean that all of the Quran is authentic and in many cases these can be doubted since other explanations ar possible too. Anyways although RKs father was a famous sunni scholar in Egypt, RK himself was a secular Hislamic before he came to Quran Alone. He never inteneded to mess with the Mullahs etc since seculars usually dont wanna get involved in these issues anyways. They just wanna live their lives. He was a simple man who obtained his PhD from the university of Arizona. One day he wanted to study the Quran carefully and analyse it scientifically whether theres really anything marvellous abt it as the Hislamics claim and remember he had no real intention to do so. It was just a flash of an idea. Infact RK stressed on the point never to put the cart infront of the horse. Then he went on and after yrs of reserach finally in 1974 an amazing noncoincidental pattern based on no 19 emerged in the Quran which gave tangible evidence, based on high probability, that the Quran was indeed the Word of GOD. Now you see the difference between RK and the Hislamics regarding the Quran is that RK believes in the Quran not because society pressed him or so but because of the evidence which he collected and it's a fact that very few people actualy examine the evidence and then believe but he did. Yes RK, bros Edip, Bahman, Abdullah arik and myself, to name a few, are one of thoser people who actually examine the eveidence before believing. We all gave the Quran the benefit of doubt but it just withstood test after test. We dont have any motivation as to why we wanna uphold the Quran since weve already diassociated with the Hislamics. They most probably wanna even kill us but we dont care because we have the evidence and they dont. They just believe blindly but we dont. The Hislamic reaction to his discoveries in the beginning were very positive. They cheered and celebrated them. They truly believed in them but when it came to the expositio of their false hadith, then they rejected him and his discoveries. So you can see the hypocrisy. Many now who still call themselves Quran Alone believers dont believe in code-19 anymore just because RK said it pointed out 9128&129 do NOT belong to the Quran. I find that another hypocrisy. I must however admit at this point that i too had my doubts regarding 9128&129 being false in the beginning but i knew tht the pattern was noncoincidental. Thus i relized i was being a hypocrite and after further analysation came to the conclusion that all this was true and the pattern exposed those non Quranic verses 9128&129. The important point to remeber is that in this world ive nothing of my knowledge to gain by accpeting this neither do the other bros who support it. This itself shows that the proof is true with HIGH PROBABILITY, plz remember that term. GOD Bless!

Al_Khidr

As Salaamu Alaykum Jonny_k

Rashad Khalifa played a monumentous role in bringing about Pure Islaam. The average Qur'aan alone Muslim was first influenced by Rashad Khalifa, so he has done a lot. Rashad Khalifa made some mistakes just like any other human but he has done a lot and has influenced a lot of us who follow Qur'aan alone, despite the fact there are a lot of people who likes to discredit him including those who follow Qur'aan alone. It is true that when Rashad Khalifa discovered the Mathematical Code in the Qur'aan the Islaamic world loved it and he was invited to interviews etc. and once the Mathematical Code came to the point of exposing their satanic innovations HADIYTH, they immediately started to reject the code. I also believed that when Rashad Khalifa claimed to be a Divine Messenger of Allah and when he said that those 2 verses in Sura 9 are not suppose to be in the Qur'aan it help add to the Islaamic world rejecting the Mathematical Code. I have some questions for you

-Remember when Rashad Khalifa exposed the Saad and the Seen in the original Qur'aan that was revealed to Muhammad without vowel points? Rashad Khalifa also visually documented that in his Qur'aan that he translated. Now I have a question for you Jonny_K and if any body else who wants to answer please feel free

I want to know if those two verses in Qur'aan 9128 & 129 was researched to see if it is in the original Qur'aan that was revealed to Prophet Muhammad without the vowel points? Did Rashad Khalifa and any of his close team get a chance to view if those verses were there or not in the original Qur'aan that does not have vowel points like how he was able to dimonstrate that the Saad and Seen issue the original Qur'aan without vowel points?

-Jonny_k what do you feel about how Rashad Khalifa came up with an exact date for the end of the world despite the fact that Allah says no one will know the Day of Judgement?

jonny_k

Peace bro "Al-Khidr",
Is "al-khidr" your real name because my name is also "khidr" pronounced "khizar" because in Urdu and Persian "Daad" is known as "Zaad"?

-Remember when Rashad Khalifa exposed the Saad and the Seen in the original Qur'aan that was revealed to Muhammad without vowel points?

JK- Yes without dotted letters because people knew how to read the words but "saad" and "seen" are written differently even without the dots.

Rashad Khalifa also visually documented that in his Qur'aan that he translated. Now I have a question for you Jonny_K and if any body else who wants to answer please feel free

I want to know if those two verses in Qur'aan 9128 & 129 was researched to see if it is in the original Qur'aan that was revealed to Prophet Muhammad without the vowel points? Did Rashad Khalifa and any of his close team get a chance to view if those verses were there or not in the original Qur'aan that does not have vowel points like how he was able to dimonstrate that the Saad and Seen issue the original Qur'aan without vowel points?

JK- The oldest Quran of which a copy is avaliable today is undootted BUT it is not the original. The original has not yet been discovered.

-Jonny_k what do you feel about how Rashad Khalifa came up with an exact date for the end of the world despite the fact that Allah says no one will know the Day of Judgement?

JK- GOD didnt say no one will ever know it. Thats a misconception. He says in the Quran that it is kept almost hidden
"The Hour (end of the world) is surely coming; I will keep it almost(Akaad) hidden, for each soul must be paid for its works.
GOD Bless!

Al_Khidr

Salaam Jonny_k

Thanks for the response but you didn?t quite answer my question about (Qur'aan 9128 & 129), so I will rephrase it for you. In the Qur?aan without the vowel points where Rashad Khalifa researched the Saad and the Seen, did Rashad Khalifa and any of his team members research that very same Qur?aan (without the vowel points) to see if 9128 & 129 is in that Qur?aan or not?

I have another question for you, do you believe that date of the end of the world that Rashad Khalifa gave is accurate, meaning that the Day of Judgement will happen in that year as Rashad Khalifa has stated?

Salaam