The differcence between Rashad Khalifa and the Hislamics regarding the Quran
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DanishI'm voluntarily obeying the Quran, in that, it is repetitious and for all times, hence the following
There's a slight difference. AQ came through a Prophet of God. He didn't spew out 'dung suras' at people, unlike yourself. D
By the very prophet of God, I'm voluntarily obeying the Quran, in that, it is repetitious and for all times, hence the following
Let me spell it out again by emphasizing
T R U T H H U R T S R I G H T W H E R E I T B E L O N G S.
And this is all that matters Mquran, watch this video once again and contemplate on the mirrored effects you?re thumping about
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBplylx55Zc&mode=related&search=mullahYou desperately need a psychiatrist; seek immediate help.
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Danish, you're out of control. If I were you, I wouldn't post that videoclip again for fear of appearing just as out of control as whatever trash you're showing on that clip.
Back to the topic
Peace All
Just a quick question so that I understand this better. Where did we get this term hislam and mislam and all the others? One day I found it on one of Danish's rants and it appears to be spreading like wildfire. Is this an actual term or did he just make something up and people are responding to it? It's a serious question, I'm not trying to be sarcastic D
Peace
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Danish, you're out of control. If I were you, I wouldn't post that videoclip again for fear of appearing just as out of control as whatever trash you're showing on that clip.
Seems that you didn't bother to read my earlier post. Here it is again
"It's a politicized battle field declared by your insane 'ayatollah' as depicted in that video link, so please stay out of this. I am only playing his game which he has monkeyed me into. I've already submitted my concern to the moderators and awaiting their response."
Just a quick question so that I understand this better. Where did we get this term hislam and mislam and all the others? One day I found it on one of Danish's rants and it appears to be spreading like wildfire. Is this an actual term or did he just make something up and people are responding to it? It's a serious question, I'm not trying to be sarcastic D
The word "Hislam" was introduced by one of the forum members here, as far as I can recall. "Mislam" and "Codelam" are introduced by me. FYI, the word "Islam" to become an organized religion was also introduced by your 'prophet of God', like any other, including Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, Ahmedi, Salafi, Hanafi, and a gizzilion more all over the world. What's seems to be your problem then?
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As Salaamu Alaykum Jonny_K
You have made the following statement
"JK- GOD didnt say no one will ever know it. Thats a misconception. He says in the Quran that it is kept almost hidden
"The Hour (end of the world) is surely coming; I will keep it almost(Akaad) hidden, for each soul must be paid for its works.
GOD Bless!"Take a look at this verse
No one in the heavens and the earth knows the future except Allah. 2765
How would you resolve the difference of your interpretation of 2015 and 2765? It appears that your explaination of 2015 is not complimenting verse 2765, where Allah says that no one knows the future except Him?
Salaam
Salaam
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Peace nadeem and all. I have employed this method several times,'leaving' the 'discussion' when someone does not understand where i am coming from,disagrees on subjective issues,becomes emotional/rude,or when the discussion becomes unproductive.........I then get 'labelled' a 'hit and run' merchant,or as someone who doesnt answer posts......So go figure!!!!! bravo yay group elektro muscle handshake peace
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Peace nadeem and all. I have employed this method several times,'leaving' the 'discussion' when someone does not understand where i am coming from,disagrees on subjective issues,becomes emotional/rude,or when the discussion becomes unproductive.........I then get 'labelled' a 'hit and run' merchant,or as someone who doesnt answer posts......So go figure!!!!! bravo yay group elektro muscle handshake peace
Hi brother,
I guess one has to choose the lesser of two evils -)
Nadeem
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Easy nadeem. Its nice to know somebody understands....I choose the 'lesser evil' over emotional/narrow minded/pointless debating....Im strong enough to take the name calling and negativity,this comes with maturity and experience...
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Salaam mquran
2015 is talking about the Final Hour, the end of the world and 2765 says that no one knows the future except Allah. Rashad Khalifa made a prediction of the end of the world and Jonny_K believes that 2015 is not absolutely saying that no one will know the time or date of the end of the world (as a result of the Arabic word he provided) which is in the future, so I was asking Jonny_K how would he resolve the two verses with his interpretation because it appears to contradict, meaning his interpretation and those verses. I read your response and it didn't sound like you may have fully understood what I was asking and for the reasons why.
Salaam
Salaamun alaikum,
20/15 talks about as-saat, the hour where ones destruction comes.
27/65 talks about al-ghaib, the absolutely unwitnessable (ghaib is opposite of shahaadat or witnessable).
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Al-khidr, think about it for a second. Why would Musa, the guy who came centuries before Isa, not to mention Muhammad tell his people 'the final hour' is coming? They'd all be dead thousands of years before!
Sorry, im just dealing with 20/15 without any 19 implications.
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EnquirerEasy nadeem. Its nice to know somebody understands....I choose the 'lesser evil' over emotional/narrow minded/pointless debating....Im strong enough to take the name calling and negativity,this comes with maturity and experience...
Nauseating sanctimony, I have to say. Of course, we forget to mention that 'pointless debating' came as a result of his world-famous reputation of not answering questions. That's nicely omitted. Maturity and experience ? Maturity and experience would have yielded answers....
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That is because Islam, Hislam, Mislam and Codelam, each wants the other to come under its fold. If they don't, then 218, 2171 & 1797 are stamped on their foreheads along with other violent and condemning verses. This then, makes the entire enterprise exactly that.
Say it with me One, two , three ...C-O-N-T-E-X-T. It's a shame that the enemies of Al-Quraan need to resort to these underhanded tactics but there you go, what else can they do, right? 'Under its fold' as Danish calls it is nothing more than his invention, born out of his need to make Al-Islaam bad to justify his rejection. He actually read past the Basmalah this time.
Lets analyse the three ayat again
218
Deaf, dumb, and blind; they fail to returnThe surrounding ayaat of 2/18 deals with al-kaafiroon who are defined as people who do mischief on the earth. Sort of like Danish and Enquirer except they operate in the real world.
2171
The example of such disbelievers is that of parrots who repeat what they hear of sounds and calls, without understanding. Deaf, dumb, and blind; they cannot understand.Once again, the passage starts with 2/168 for people who refuses to consume wholesomeness (at-tayyibaat) and follow the footsteps of shaitaan. Lets not forget that ribaa is also a 'consumable' (3/130).
1797
Whomever GOD guides is the truly guided one. And whomever He sends astray, you will never find for them any lords and masters beside Him. We will summon them on the Day of Resurrection forcibly; blind, dumb, and deaf. Their destination is Hell; whenever it cools down, we will increase their fire.Once again, this is for people who rejected the ayaat of Allah by rejecting the Other Period (yaumul aakhirat).
Do these verses say anything about entering into the 'Muhammadan Fold' as Danish understands it ? No.
AQ
And those who strive for Us - We will surely guide them to OUR PATHS. And indeed, Allah is with the doers of good (29/69)
AQ has always supported a multiplicity of paths although in order to learn that, we need to something rather weighty, at least to some people, which is to READ IT.
Thanks bro
That is whaat I exactly thought, the verses are talking about Danish and his likes
Salam
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By the very prophet of God, I'm voluntarily obeying the Quran,
Hahahahahahahahah
That was damn funny
Thanks bro you made my day
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Danish, you're out of control. If I were you, I wouldn't post that videoclip again for fear of appearing just as out of control as whatever trash you're showing on that clip.
Back to the topic
Peace All
Just a quick question so that I understand this better. Where did we get this term hislam and mislam and all the others? One day I found it on one of Danish's rants and it appears to be spreading like wildfire. Is this an actual term or did he just make something up and people are responding to it? It's a serious question, I'm not trying to be sarcastic D
Peace
See, sister Nadia removed my awsome movie that I made myself to the trash and leaving all these stupid video comments by danish
it makes you wonder really
cheers
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Salam.
Is it true that Rashad Khalifa was accused of some crime?
Salam.
He was accused of sexual molesting a woman but he was never charged
Salam
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mquran
Al-khidr, think about it for a second. Why would Musa, the guy who came centuries before Isa, not to mention Muhammad tell his people 'the final hour' is coming? They'd all be dead thousands of years before!
For some reason I'm not quite understanding the direction your going in. Your not saying that Prophet Muhammad had the knowledge of the Final Day or the end of the world right? I know that Rashad Khalifa came of with an exact date but I don't think you believe that right?
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For some reason I'm not quite understanding the direction your going in. Your not saying that Prophet Muhammad had the knowledge of the Final Day or the end of the world right? I know that Rashad Khalifa came of with an exact date but I don't think you believe that right?
No, neither knew this, Quranically speaking.
All I'm asking you is, why would Musa warn his people of 'as-saat' if they were never going to experience it ?