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    Ghulam_Rasool
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    Assalamo alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu. This is a beautiful editorial which I found at Muslimedia.com.

    http//www.muslimedia.com/abudhar209.htm
    Remembering the true nature of our enemy
    The threat to Muslims from an imperialistic American-Israeli power will not go away even if ?Islamic terrorism? ends. The war-elites in Washington and Tel Aviv spent most of the last century sapping the resources of the world in what was supposedly a life-and-death struggle with communism. When communism collapsed, the politicians went looking for a new enemy to justify continuing their aggressive policies. Unable to find any convincing enemies to promote, they set about creating one from the movements of resistance created by their own policies; and so we now have ?Islamic terrorism? or ?Islamo-fascism?. Unknowns such as Mohammad ?Atta, Abu Mus?ab al-Zarqawi and Khalid Sheikh Muhammad have been promoted by Hollywood style news-reporting to become the modern-day equivalents of Leon Trotsky, Che Guevara and Ho Chi Minh. The attacks of 9/11 were treated as a new Pearl Harbor (although the parallel with the Gulf of Tonkin incident may be more accurate) to give the war cabal in Washington and their allies in Tel Aviv the rationale to declare a war without end against the new threat to freedom and democracy. What started as an American knockout to the Taliban in Afghanistan has become an American quagmire in Iraq. George Bush?s war in Iraq is becoming America?s Frankenstein the monster that destroyed its creator. By anyone?s account, the US is no longer fighting to win the war in Iraq; its only objective is to avoid losing it. The neo-conservatives, Israel?s closest allies in Washington, thought that they could use their shock-and-awe destruction of Iraq to bully other Western nation-states (principally the reluctant Europeans, the Russians and the Chinese) to acknowledge the US as the undisputed hegemon of the universe. This was to be the fulfilment of a political ambition that has been nurtured deep inside the corridors of power in Washington, through more than a century of American hubris from the Philippines to the Caribbeans or from the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.

    Right now, the real purveyors of terror are trained and equipped in American military bases in the US and around the world. These are the shock-troops of imperialism who are supposed to reclaim the legacy of colonialism and spread the white man?s burden of ?freedom? and ?democracy? around the world. These well-camouflaged killers-for-profits ignore the fact that the people of other countries all over the world really want the independence, freedom and self-determination that the West uses only as political rhetoric. They don?t care that there are hundreds of thousands of prisoners of war and prisoners of conscience whose main crime it is that they want freedom from Western hegemony above all else.

    Power-blinded American officials gain strength not because of the merit of who they are but because of the fault of what we, the Muslims, have become. Across the quarter of the globe that is populated and ruled by Muslims, governments that fear the US more than they fear Allah have delivered their lands and people into the US?s control. General Pervez Musharraf, a Pakistani equivocator, cannot move a finger when it comes to the American military, intelligence, and political appropriation of the ?Islamic Republic of Pakistan.? The rulers of every other Muslim state bar Islamic Iran are in a similar position.

    But the American-imposed war on the Iraqi people is bringing forward the hour of reckoning between the forces of Islamic resistance, led by the Islamic state in Iran, and the imperialist super-structure around the world. For decades the zionist-dominated government in Washington has armed, financed, and provided political and diplomatic cover for the zionist wolves in Biblical skin who have stolen the Holy Land. It is America?s Israel that has killed individuals, massacred communities, and is attempting the total genocide a people who are both Muslim and Christian. And this is not a function only the current lunatic commander-in-chief, George W. Bush, but has been the pattern of American administrations of both parties for decades. Remember, many Muslims voted for Bush in 2000 as his predecessor, Bill Clinton, was seen as the most pro-Israel president ever. It was under his watch that the movement that has become known as ?Islamo-fascism? was incubated.

    What is crucial is that no-one is fooled by ?moderate? American responses to the Iraq debacle. Look back at Algeria. ?Terrorism? there was meant to destroy the popular appeal of movements for Islamic self-determination. Now, if the zionist brains within imperialism have their way, the Algerian model will subsume all the Muslims; the terrorism and violence of the last few years, culminating in the fratricidal sectarian maelstrom of Iraq, all generated by the zionists and imperialists, will scar and discredit Islamic movements for generations to come. Meanwhile, we will have honeyed voices from the West, regretting the excesses of the neo-cons, and seeking to make common purpose with moderate ?Islamists? in the Muslim world, to find a way that the world can live in peace and harmony; provided, of course, that Muslims disown the ?extremism? of Islamic activists who insist on genuine independence and self-determination for Muslim countries. Thus the essential objectives of the global conflict originated by the earlier powermongers and war-instigators, who set out to secure control over the resources in the oppressed and Muslim parts of the world, will be achieved by other means.

    Key to this American strategy, of course, is the subversion of the Islamic State of Iran, the only country in which the Islamic movement is in power. The Western hope is that a ?pragmatic? or ?peace? candidate wins future elections in Islamic Iran, prompting the Islamic State to disengage from its Islamic responsibilities before the consolidation of Islamic power in the Islamic East itself; in this case, the Islamic Republic may save lives and money, as the West eases its pressure on it. But as the wheels of imperialism and zionism will grind on after ?Iran? recoils into its nationalist self or is satisfied with a sectarian, truncated ?Islam?; imperialists and zionists will still lash out at oppressed peoples and terrified Muslims; Israel will still shed Muslim blood and America will still draw Muslim oil. Israel will still kill Palestinians, other Arabs, and other Muslims and oppressed peoples at will. Iran without its Islamic commitment will become an Iran without an Islamic depth, and then such an Iran will be unprotected from the power above and from the people below. The zionist die-hards will still broadcast their threats from the safety of their nuclear club of nations. The pathetic oil-rich but cash-strapped rulers of Arabia will still make secret concessions and deposit more of their oil-revenues in zionist-controlled banks and financial interests. (The Saudi addiction to American support is little short of the American addiction to oil.) American aircraft based in Muslim countries will be ready to drop their bombs on Muslim populations whenever the zionists? interests demand it.

    Critics of the current confrontation between imperialist hegemony and Islamic self-determination contend that it is wiser to ?fight? imperialism diplomatically than to do so on Islamic occupied territories; or that money spent on jihad would be better invested on civil society and security at home; or that the casualties sustained are too great a cost to bear; and that the Muslim peoples should make diplomatic concessions instead of a prolonged armed struggle. But these are tactical choices that must be made in any case. In the case of staying the jihadi course, at least, the long-term Islamic plan must be to confront foreign aggression and military occupation of Muslim lands and territories whenever and wherever necessary. And if that means that zionism and imperialism are to be buried somewhere between Tora Bora and Timbuktu, then so be it.

    Some moneyed segments of the Ummah, who suffer less than other Muslims, and have more to lose than most, may feel that such a position is too expensive or too naive; but despite their objections, direct jihadi resistance against imperialist aggressors and the zionist occupiers who seek to terrorize people in their homelands and families in their homes is inevitable and inescapable. And the longer the struggle continues against the Anglo-American-zionist corporation of evil, the more the Muslim public will regain a clear vision of both their real representatives on the battlefield, and the real enemies they face. Already many Muslims are beginning to see how Taliban and al-Qa?ida have been either set up (as with Taliban) or manipulated (as with al-Qa?ida) as false positives, and are recognising that Islamic Iran and Islamic movements such as Hamas and Hizbullah are the real leaders of the Islamic struggle.

    It is this clarity of vision that bodes well for the Ummah, whatever the problems we now face. When Muslims are attacked, and put under whatever pressure their enemies can bring against them, they do not forget Allah; they remember him. This is the simple fact that will ultimately thwart all the plans that our enemies make to defeat us.

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      Nurd
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      Someone mixed up "Muslim" with "Citizen of the Middle East" There is no danger to Islam.. the problem is not religion but region..

      Doesn't make what's happening right, but don't label a conflict over land and oil as a religious conflict when it isn't.

      Peace,

      Nurd

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        If the US did pull out of Iraq, would that end the conflict? No, all the forces would just move to Afghanistan and Iraq would fall into anarchy and civil war. There is no real way to get rid of Israel. The UN wont just return it all back to Palestine, the UN is losing influence and support as much as it is and going back on one of its biggest decisions would horribly damage UN power. To try and do it militarily is impossible as well, you would get a gigantic UN army in Israel before Jerusalem was taken by any foreign army.

        A Jewish state will exist unless the entire region is made one combined state with both Israeli's and Palestinians together. Or someone removes any reason for anyone to live in the bloody lands, like the complete destruction of the temple mount.

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          jankren
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          I think before taking care the external enemy we should fix the enemies within first such as the ones who are promoting stoning to death practice in the name of Islam.

          WARNING! THESE CLIPS CONTAIN EXPLICIT BARBARIC GRAPHIC VIOLENCE OF STONING TO DEATH.

          A girl is stoned to death for supposedly dating a man of different religion.
          http//www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1177931030/Girl_Gets_Stoned_to_Death_for_Dating_a_Man_of_Another_Religion

          A 17 year old Kurdish girl was supposedly stoned to death by people including her own family.
          http//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4007783200725628944&q=%22stoned+to+death%22&hl=en

          It is ****ing idotic that they often punish the females only for what they call 'wicked' behavior.

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            They are not human beings. Thanks Jankren for the warning, I cannot watch such insult of humanity. I've no words.

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              Some moneyed segments of the Ummah, who suffer less than other Muslims, and have more to lose than most, may feel that such a position is too expensive or too naive; but despite their objections, direct jihadi resistance against imperialist aggressors and the zionist occupiers who seek to terrorize people in their homelands and families in their homes is inevitable and inescapable. And the longer the struggle continues against the Anglo-American-zionist corporation of evil, the more the Muslim public will regain a clear vision of both their real representatives on the battlefield, and the real enemies they face. Already many Muslims are beginning to see how Taliban and al-Qa?ida have been either set up (as with Taliban) or manipulated (as with al-Qa?ida) as false positives, and are recognising that Islamic Iran and Islamic movements such as Hamas and Hizbullah are the real leaders of the Islamic struggle.

              I think we share the same viewpoint about Taliban and al-Qaida being US puppets. What I can't agree is that you chose Iran and Hizbullah to be 'leaders of Islamic struggle'.

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                Lost_Philosopher
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                I think we share the same viewpoint about Taliban and al-Qaida being US puppets.

                Do you have any information that would support this?

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                  lost philosopher before your time, many moons ago, the soviets invaded afghanistan. uncle sam was not fond of communist expansion, and elected to fund, train and otherwise support the afghan resistance. these resistance fighters became what we call the taliban today, and many are also members of the group america calls al qaida.

                  ever seen pictures of osama with that ak-47? he claims to have taken it from the body of a dead soviet general... it's a souvenir! D

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                    Ghulam_Rasool
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                    Assalamo alaikum brothers in Islam...

                    I do not agree with everything mentioned in this editorial, especially its claim that the Taliban was set up by the West. I support the Taliban, and the fact that they are continuing the struggle against the disbelieving invadors is proof enough for me that they are genuine and truly Islamic movement. The same goes with Hizbullah and Hamas, though I do not agree with suicide bombing strategy as it is against the principles of Islam to commit suicide.

                    I think before taking care the external enemy we should fix the enemies within first such as the ones who are promoting stoning to death practice in the name of Islam.

                    The problem is who is the internal enemy? The internal enemy are the collaborators with the West. Stoning to death of adulterers is a practice of Islam, a practice which our enemies wish to take away from us, so that they can promote promiscuity in our society. But we are the people who love Rasoolullah (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) more than our own lives, and we can never abandon what he taught us, no matter how much it offends so called "human rights". The problem with contemporary Muslims is clearly secularism and westernization.

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                      peace all, i just reported the above post to the mods with the following remark

                      Peace mods, apology of stoning and witch hunting of "westernized muslims". When will you react ? Can yusha profer any insanity as long as he uses correct language ? Peace lk

                      and i didn't even mention the disrespect of human rights...

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                        savage_carrot
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                        Thanks Elke for bringing this to our attention.

                        Yusha, may I remind you of the Forum Rules, notably

                        2] Please note that this forum is primarily dedicated to the study and understanding of the Scripture (Quran). Thus, mocking it or not being able to back-up claims with specifics will all result in deletion of such posts and/or removal of topic and/or disciplinary action being taken against the offending member.

                        Your claim

                        Stoning to death of adulterers is a practice of Islam, a practice which our enemies wish to take away from us, so that they can promote promiscuity in our society. But we are the people who love Rasoolullah (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) more than our own lives, and we can never abandon what he taught us, no matter how much it offends so called "human rights".

                        is incorrect. This is not what the Quran teaches us as being a practice of "Islam". You cannot back-up your claims with outside sources to the one source that has credibility, i.e. the Quran. Please stop making unfounded statements about what "Islam" according to the Quran is. Let this be a reminder.

                        Additional information

                        http//free-minds.org80/articles/quranic/zina.htm
                        http//free-minds.org80/forum/index.php?topic=12845.0
                        http//free-minds.org80/forum/index.php?topic=11237.0

                        edited to fix the links

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                          phoenix1
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                          peace Savage,
                          his claim is not incorrect since he believes that the quran tells us to "follow the messenger" which he believes is following the hadith, and it's the hadith that give us the stoning to death punishment.

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                            And also Majority of the Muslims agrees with brother Yusha. According to my understandig there are more than 90% Muslims who believe so. I dont agree with them though!

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                              savage_carrot
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                              his claim is not incorrect since he believes that the quran tells us to "follow the messenger" which he believes is following the hadith, and it's the hadith that give us the stoning to death punishment.

                              One can believe all they want, doesn't make it correct or factual. If someone believes and states that a carrot is an onion, it won't turn an incorrect statement into a correct one just because he believes it to be. I don't think this site/forum exists to perpetuate or tolerate incorrect beliefs but for reformation, enlightenment and knowledge. If someone insists on perpetuating incorrect beliefs, even after all evidence to the contrary, then they are not here to learn.

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                                honor
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                                Salam Jankren,

                                I cannot even tell you, as a human, a woman.....the sheer terror and sickness that rises in my soul and my throat as I viewed those videos....I am beyond words...I can only say...that for the first time, I will pray everyday of my life, that the men and women who participate in these barbaric, disgusting, satanic acts of murder, will suffer more than the majority in hell, I pray that they will be the most sufferable miserable lowly despicable peices of S*** in hell. IT is truly the sickest F****** thing I have ever seen! I truly hate these )()&^&^*&%^%$^%#$%$#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                  arnoldyasin
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                                  Muhammed Ali in his translation, commentary on verse 242

                                  242 The adulteress and the adulterer,
                                  flog each of them (with) a hundred
                                  stripes,a and let not pity for them
                                  detain you from obedience to All?h,
                                  if you believe in All?h and the Last
                                  Day, and let a party of believers witness
                                  their chastisement.

                                  2a. Chastity, as a virtue, is not given the first place in modern civilized society, and
                                  hence adultery is not considered a sufficiently serious offence to subject the guilty party
                                  to any punishment except the payment of damages to the injured husband. The breach of
                                  the greatest trust which can be imposed in a man or a woman, the breach which ruins
                                  families, destroys household peace, and deprives innocent children of their loving mothers,
                                  is not looked upon even as seriously as the breach of trust of a few pounds. Hence
                                  the Islamic law seems to be too severe to a Westerner.

                                  The punishment for adultery is here stated to be flogging, not stoning to death, which
                                  was really prescribed by the Jewish law. The cases of stoning to death for adultery by the
                                  Prophets orders relate actually to a Jew and a Jewess in one case (B. 2361), and others
                                  apparently occurred before the revelation of this chapter. That stoning to death was never
                                  contemplated by Isl?m as a punishment for adultery is made clear by 425, where it is
                                  stated expressly that the punishment for adultery in the case of slave-girls, when they are
                                  married, is half the punishment which is inflicted on free married women, and stoning to
                                  death could not be halved. Besides, the Qur?n nowhere speaks of stoning as a punishment
                                  for adultery, and the report of what Umar said is self-contradictory. For a full
                                  discussion, see The Religion of Isl?m, ch. Penal Laws of Islam.

                                  A few words may be added as to the method of flogging. It aimed more at disgracing the culprit than at torturing
                                  him. In the time of the Prophet, and even for some time after him, there was no whip,
                                  and flogging was carried out by beating with a stick or with the hand or with shoes. The
                                  culprit was not stripped naked, but he was required to take off thick clothes.

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                                    zenje
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                                    Peace all,

                                    I just watched the two videos. '(

                                    I thought I'd mention though that the second one (titled - Girl stoned to death by muslim mob on google), jankren wrote A 17 year old Kurdish girl was supposedly stoned to death by people including her own family. Now either the link posted was wrong or something, but this video was taken somehwere in South Africa and it's NOT a "muslim mob". The commentator starts with saying something about a black girl, and notice they're all Africans. And somewhere along the line someone in the mob shouts - viva Mandela.
                                    Truly horrific.

                                    Peace

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                                      Peace
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                                      I really don't like to preach hate, but I cannot take it when these acts are committed under the guise of religion. I don't give a shit if god personally came down and told me to stone someone .... I wouldn't do it. I'd rather burn in hell then participate in that bullshit. When will they come to their senses?!

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                                        phoenix1
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                                        One can believe all they want, doesn't make it correct or factual. If someone believes and states that a carrot is an onion, it won't turn an incorrect statement into a correct one just because he believes it to be. I don't think this site/forum exists to perpetuate or tolerate incorrect beliefs but for reformation, enlightenment and knowledge. If someone insists on perpetuating incorrect beliefs, even after all evidence to the contrary, then they are not here to learn.

                                        peace
                                        I understand your point, but the thing is that the "proof" that most people on this forum offer for their beliefs is their interpretation of the Quran's verses.
                                        Some people think that when the quran mentions the "unseen," it's telling us to blindly believe it's stories.
                                        Similarly, Yusha believes that when the Quran mentions "obey the messenger," it is telling us to follow the written records of his sayings, the ahadith. And so whatever the hadith say we must follow.
                                        His beliefs may very well be "incorrect," but according to whose understanding?

                                        2] Please note that this forum is primarily dedicated to the study and understanding of the Scripture (Quran). Thus, mocking it or not being able to back-up claims with specifics will all result in deletion of such posts and/or removal of topic and/or disciplinary action being taken against the offending member.

                                        This isn't a very clear, or necessary rule. People should be able to say whatever the hell they want, and it's up to others to listen to it or not. According to probably hundreds of people on this forum I have mocked the Quran, and the only thing I have had to back it up has been my subjective understanding of the world and the quran. I bet if Ahmad Baghat or Al Quraishi were a mod, I'd have all my posts deleted in that other thread you locked (also unecessary). You get what I'm saying?
                                        I don't agree with what Yusha said, but his opinion is just as valid as a lot of others I read here every day.
                                        peace

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                                          daaamn Pheonix for 17 you're hella smart. I see more wisdom in you than many people (including myself), keep up the good work.

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