Who built the kaaba that is in Mecca?
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To those who say that claims on this web-site mean that the Arabs re-wrote their history do not get it.
The Arabs never wrote any of their history until well after the Prophets death, and then these were based on collections of chains of narrations going back to the Prophet or his Companions well after 200 years...
Up to those latter years, nothing was collected, (or if you want to believe in some hadiths, it was ordered by the Prophet and his Companions that all accounts on his life be destroyed), and no effort was made to make a cohesive story about what happened in the region...
Overall I do not have many problems with Hadith, I just do not accept them as a source of law, divine guidance, or even accurate historical accounts, The Quran is far from enough from me, and if I would follow most it says, I will be very pious indeed...
For the question who built the Kaabah, the obvious answer is The Saudis, and that's the end of it.
Is it Maqam Ibrahim, I have no idea...
By the way, sorry if I offended your fragile ego Rajah, I have to tell you though, Ahmed Bhaggat taught you well, you follow his rules of engagement to the tee ) -
Unless Ishaq had a cell phone to inform Ismail about the death of their father and Ismail had a chopper service or a land cruiser ready to take him to Hebron.I dont think he would have made it to Hebron from Mecca in time to attend his fathers funeral either on foot or on a horse.
So it is more probable that Paran was just at the southern boundary of Canaan, from where Ishmail could make it within a day or two?Correction Ever heard of Buraq? We shouldn't be sceptical if possible explanations are there. Alhamdulillah
Ibrahim was 89 years old when Ismail was born and 99 when Ishaq was born, Ismael and hagar were banished few years after the birth of Ishaq.
Now please tell me did Ibrahim and ismail come to Mecca for the construction of kaaba before the birth of Ishaq? Or after he has banished hagar and ismail? ..and why Mecca?
Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being SubhanAllah doubts should be clear now.....Please know about Buraq that is very swift. Alhamdulillah
People usually migrate and settle at places which are better then the place of their origincoming from the north toward Mecca they had to pass by Medina an oasis in the desert and 400 km shorter in distance then Mecca .what was so special about Mecca that made them travel so far?
Even when hagar and Ismail were banished and if they traveled toward the south, Medina would have been the ideal place for them to dwell.
I dont know from where you people read history....okey let me tell.........kaaba was first built by Baba Adam Saheb......now Allah told Ibrahim to rebuilt it. SA is also an oil rich country..that is another sepecial thing about mecca. Like I said before bros we shouldn't be sceptical when all the satisfying answers are there. Alhamdulillah. May god accept our humble efforts. Amin
Ah, sorry I have to come again to clear one more doubt
Wonder why? Jesus, Zikria or Yahya were least interested in this house of Allah Wink
This is another misconception that they never visited. We should only say Allah never told us if they visited! But alhamdulillah as a Muslim we all believe that they all definitely visited it for sure with great passion. MashaAllah.
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Correction Ever heard of Buraq? We shouldn't be sceptical if possible explanations are there. Alhamdulillah
Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being SubhanAllah doubts should be clear now.....Please know about Buraq that is very swift. Alhamdulillah
I wonder where this "burraq" was at the time of Mohammed's hijrat to Medina confused
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Correction Ever heard of Buraq? We shouldn't be sceptical if possible explanations are there. Alhamdulillah
Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being SubhanAllah doubts should be clear now.....Please know about Buraq that is very swift. Alhamdulillah
For the past 1400 years of observation, nobody has noted any horses racing like a nutter. While it is very possible that Ishmael had a car (how else would you explain knowledge of the big bang and all that jazz?), it is unlikely as history shows.
Why is it that you see a rational explanation - Ismail and Ishaq were localised and that is how they got into contact - and substitute it for a flying unicorn?!?! Am I missing something?
"Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being"
Cite a Quranic verse? I recall reading many stating that the prohets were "men like yourselves"... Maybe you have a specific verse...
Of course, that does not mean what you said is irrational - we're talking prophets here. Just less possible.
AgentXXX, let me introduce to you a concept that will most likely invalidate the interpretation of the Quranic verses you cited - time. As time tends towards increasing, people tend towards changing. Now, over a significantly long period, i.e. 630 years, would you say the same people inhabited Makkah as they did before? In other words, when God says "people to whom no warner came before", it could simply mean that so many generations passed, that all knowledge of the previous warners died completely.
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"Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being"
Cite a Quranic verse? I recall reading many stating that the prohets were "men like yourselves"... Maybe you have a specific verse...
You are just jealous, Alhamdulillah Bukhari and Muslim told us that prophets have more power.
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You are just jealous, Alhamdulillah Bukhari and Muslim told us that prophets have more power.
Bukhari (PBUH)? Oh, OK, I see. Thanks for the overwhelming evidence.
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AgentXXX, let me introduce to you a concept that will most likely invalidate the interpretation of the Quranic verses you cited - time. As time tends towards increasing, people tend towards changing. Now, over a significantly long period, i.e. 630 years, would you say the same people inhabited Makkah as they did before? In other words, when God says "people to whom no warner came before", it could simply mean that so many generations passed, that all knowledge of the previous warners died completely.
Then prophet mohammed is also not descendant of Ibrahim!
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I wonder where this "burraq" was at the time of Mohammed's hijrat to Medina confused
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Ever heard of workshop?
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Then prophet mohammed is also not descendant of Ibrahim!
I didn't mean that...
I meant that supposing a warner came to those in Makkah, or Jerusalem, or Mars, over 600 years, the knowledge of such a warner could possibly be lost, hence the Quranic verses cited could not be used to prove/disprove anything in this specific reference frame.
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I didn't mean that...
I meant that supposing a warner came to those in Makkah, or Jerusalem, or Mars, over 600 years, the knowledge of such a warner could possibly be lost, hence the Quranic verses cited could not be used to prove/disprove anything in this specific reference frame.
The knowledge in the memories of people could lost but Allah never forgets. Why did god says no warner has come to their forefathers 366 ? Did god forget? Astaghfirullahi 3theem.
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The knowledge in the memories of people could lost but Allah never forgets. Why did god says no warner has come to their forefathers 366 ? Did god forget? Astaghfirullahi 3theem.
God does not forget, I forget though. The word "fathers" was pretty bloody invisible to me! Sorry, my bad.
But if you are to use this verse in such a way, it would imply that Muhammad was based in Makkah, but Jerusalem was the "bayt-al-haram"?
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God does not forget, I forget though. The word "fathers" was pretty bloody invisible to me! Sorry, my bad.
np, its good you realised it.
But if you are to use this verse in such a way, it would imply that Muhammad was based in Makkah, but Jerusalem was the "bayt-al-haram"?
We can investigate this further.......but we are sure now that no warner ever came to them before....
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Just to clarify... most of the oil/gas resources in the Hejaz are in the eastern provinces, and the hejaz has only been SA until recently with the Wahabi Saudi family take-over...
Lets steer clear from magic please..., and I do not wish to get into an argument about Djinns either -
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Just to clarify... most of the oil/gas resources in the Hejaz are in the eastern provinces, and the hejaz has only been SA until recently with the Wahabi Saudi family take-over...
Lets steer clear from magic please..., and I do not wish to get into an argument about Djinns eitherOk if no oil then what about Zam-Zam water? Isn't it also a special thing of mecca? You cannot misguide innocent muslims.Alhamdulillah.
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Ok if no oil then what about Zam-Zam water? Isn't it also a special thing of mecca?
Is there empirical evidence to it having any intrinsic value, or nutrition, or, well, anything, aside from a few randomly narrated stories of it having cured cancer, AIDS, etc?
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Is there empirical evidence to it having any intrinsic value, or nutrition, or, well, anything, aside from a few randomly narrated stories of it having cured cancer, AIDS, etc?
It was a miracle, isn't it enough for you?
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It was a miracle, isn't it enough for you?
I hear and I obey.
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I hear and I obey.
Thats the spirit...MashaAllah... bravo
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By the way, ALL OF YOU, including me
SHAKIR And even if you bring to those who have been given the Book every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust.
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Is there empirical evidence to it having any intrinsic value, or nutrition, or, well, anything, aside from a few randomly narrated stories of it having cured cancer, AIDS, etc?
This is a true story.
In my small town there was a woman who was very eager to go to Hajj, and to taste the water of zam zam which everyone was saying was very delicious and sweet. One day she knew someone came from hajj and had zam zam water with them. She went and was served the water. She sipped from the glass, put it down and stayed quiet.- Heh? Why are you quiet? How did you find the water?
The woman replied - If this is the delicious zam zam, I am now worried about the taste of al-Kawthar!
- Heh? Why are you quiet? How did you find the water?