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Who built the kaaba that is in Mecca?

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    Correction Ever heard of Buraq? We shouldn't be sceptical if possible explanations are there. Alhamdulillah

    Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being SubhanAllah doubts should be clear now.....Please know about Buraq that is very swift. Alhamdulillah

    I wonder where this "burraq" was at the time of Mohammed's hijrat to Medina confused

    peace

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      Correction Ever heard of Buraq? We shouldn't be sceptical if possible explanations are there. Alhamdulillah

      Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being SubhanAllah doubts should be clear now.....Please know about Buraq that is very swift. Alhamdulillah

      For the past 1400 years of observation, nobody has noted any horses racing like a nutter. While it is very possible that Ishmael had a car (how else would you explain knowledge of the big bang and all that jazz?), it is unlikely as history shows.

      Why is it that you see a rational explanation - Ismail and Ishaq were localised and that is how they got into contact - and substitute it for a flying unicorn?!?! Am I missing something?

      "Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being"

      Cite a Quranic verse? I recall reading many stating that the prohets were "men like yourselves"... Maybe you have a specific verse...

      Of course, that does not mean what you said is irrational - we're talking prophets here. Just less possible.

      AgentXXX, let me introduce to you a concept that will most likely invalidate the interpretation of the Quranic verses you cited - time. As time tends towards increasing, people tend towards changing. Now, over a significantly long period, i.e. 630 years, would you say the same people inhabited Makkah as they did before? In other words, when God says "people to whom no warner came before", it could simply mean that so many generations passed, that all knowledge of the previous warners died completely.

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        "Correction again A prophet has more power than a normal human being"

        Cite a Quranic verse? I recall reading many stating that the prohets were "men like yourselves"... Maybe you have a specific verse...

        You are just jealous, Alhamdulillah Bukhari and Muslim told us that prophets have more power.

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          You are just jealous, Alhamdulillah Bukhari and Muslim told us that prophets have more power.

          Bukhari (PBUH)? Oh, OK, I see. Thanks for the overwhelming evidence.

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            AgentXXX, let me introduce to you a concept that will most likely invalidate the interpretation of the Quranic verses you cited - time. As time tends towards increasing, people tend towards changing. Now, over a significantly long period, i.e. 630 years, would you say the same people inhabited Makkah as they did before? In other words, when God says "people to whom no warner came before", it could simply mean that so many generations passed, that all knowledge of the previous warners died completely.

            Then prophet mohammed is also not descendant of Ibrahim!

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              I wonder where this "burraq" was at the time of Mohammed's hijrat to Medina confused

              peace

              Ever heard of workshop?

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                Then prophet mohammed is also not descendant of Ibrahim!

                I didn't mean that...

                I meant that supposing a warner came to those in Makkah, or Jerusalem, or Mars, over 600 years, the knowledge of such a warner could possibly be lost, hence the Quranic verses cited could not be used to prove/disprove anything in this specific reference frame.

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                  I didn't mean that...

                  I meant that supposing a warner came to those in Makkah, or Jerusalem, or Mars, over 600 years, the knowledge of such a warner could possibly be lost, hence the Quranic verses cited could not be used to prove/disprove anything in this specific reference frame.

                  The knowledge in the memories of people could lost but Allah never forgets. Why did god says no warner has come to their forefathers 366 ? Did god forget? Astaghfirullahi 3theem.

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                    The knowledge in the memories of people could lost but Allah never forgets. Why did god says no warner has come to their forefathers 366 ? Did god forget? Astaghfirullahi 3theem.

                    God does not forget, I forget though. The word "fathers" was pretty bloody invisible to me! Sorry, my bad.

                    But if you are to use this verse in such a way, it would imply that Muhammad was based in Makkah, but Jerusalem was the "bayt-al-haram"?

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                      God does not forget, I forget though. The word "fathers" was pretty bloody invisible to me! Sorry, my bad.

                      np, its good you realised it.

                      But if you are to use this verse in such a way, it would imply that Muhammad was based in Makkah, but Jerusalem was the "bayt-al-haram"?

                      We can investigate this further.......but we are sure now that no warner ever came to them before....

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                        Peace
                        Just to clarify... most of the oil/gas resources in the Hejaz are in the eastern provinces, and the hejaz has only been SA until recently with the Wahabi Saudi family take-over...
                        Lets steer clear from magic please..., and I do not wish to get into an argument about Djinns either

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                          Peace
                          Just to clarify... most of the oil/gas resources in the Hejaz are in the eastern provinces, and the hejaz has only been SA until recently with the Wahabi Saudi family take-over...
                          Lets steer clear from magic please..., and I do not wish to get into an argument about Djinns either

                          Ok if no oil then what about Zam-Zam water? Isn't it also a special thing of mecca? You cannot misguide innocent muslims.Alhamdulillah.

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                            Ok if no oil then what about Zam-Zam water? Isn't it also a special thing of mecca?

                            Is there empirical evidence to it having any intrinsic value, or nutrition, or, well, anything, aside from a few randomly narrated stories of it having cured cancer, AIDS, etc?

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                              Is there empirical evidence to it having any intrinsic value, or nutrition, or, well, anything, aside from a few randomly narrated stories of it having cured cancer, AIDS, etc?

                              It was a miracle, isn't it enough for you?

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                                It was a miracle, isn't it enough for you?

                                I hear and I obey.

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                                  I hear and I obey.

                                  Thats the spirit...MashaAllah... bravo

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                                    By the way, ALL OF YOU, including me

                                    SHAKIR And even if you bring to those who have been given the Book every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust.

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                                      Is there empirical evidence to it having any intrinsic value, or nutrition, or, well, anything, aside from a few randomly narrated stories of it having cured cancer, AIDS, etc?

                                      This is a true story.
                                      In my small town there was a woman who was very eager to go to Hajj, and to taste the water of zam zam which everyone was saying was very delicious and sweet. One day she knew someone came from hajj and had zam zam water with them. She went and was served the water. She sipped from the glass, put it down and stayed quiet.

                                      • Heh? Why are you quiet? How did you find the water?
                                        The woman replied
                                      • If this is the delicious zam zam, I am now worried about the taste of al-Kawthar!
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                                        You mean qibla is not a direction towards any building?

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                                          This is a true story.
                                          In my small town there was a woman who was very eager to go to Hajj, and to taste the water of zam zam which everyone was saying was very delicious and sweet. One day she knew someone came from hajj and had zam zam water with them. She went and was served the water. She sipped from the glass, put it down and stayed quiet.

                                          • Heh? Why are you quiet? How did you find the water?
                                            The woman replied
                                          • If this is the delicious zam zam, I am now worried about the taste of al-Kawthar!

                                          rotfl rotfl oh my god.........

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