how many messengers are in the quran ?

nerspi

peace all

Peace "agentxxx",
"Adam" was not a signle human but referes to the first evolved HUMANS on earth on the African continent. GOD Bless!

true, but even so, there must have been somebody who was the leader for the first humans. i still say there's 25 of them.

unknownuser

Peace jonny_k,

"Adam" was not a signle human but referes to the first evolved HUMANS on earth on the African continent. GOD Bless!

Where exactly in the evolutionary tree do you draw the human line; when chromosome #2 supposedly fused and apes miraculously gave birth to 46 chromosome humans?

Question then is who did this first miracle baby Adam mate with ? an ape called Eve?

Then their offspring will have 23 + 24 = 47 chromosomes not 46.

Or was Adam?s mate another miracle baby with chromosome #2 also fused?

Which then is true?

48 chromosome apes via DNA mutation gave birth to 46 chromosome humans who then populated the world.

OR

46 chromosome humans were created as such then populated the world.

727 O ye CHILDREN OF ADAM! Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame for he and his tribe watch you from a position where ye cannot see them We made the evil ones friends (only) to those without faith.

1636 For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil" of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).

unknownuser

4.001
SHAKIR O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.

Also

http//www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html

Some may raise the objection that if the fusion was a naturalistic event, how could the first human ancestor with the fusion have successfully reproduced? We have all heard that the horse and the donkey produce an infertile mule in crossing because of a different number of chromosomes in the two species. Well, apparently there is more to the story than we are usually told, because variations in chromosome number are known to occur in many different animal species, and although they sometimes seem to lead to reduced fertility, this is often not the case. Refs 5, 6, and 7 document both the existence of such chromosomal number differences and the fact that differences do not always result in reduced fertility. I can provide many more similar references if required. The last remaining species of wild horse, Przewalski's (sha-val-skis) Wild Horse has 66 chromosomes while the domesticated horse has 64 chromosomes. Despite this difference in chromosome number, Przewalski's Wild Horse and the domesticated horse can be crossed and do produce fertile offspring (see reference 9).

It's a good thing you're being skeptical, however.

Ghulam_Rasool

25 messengers are mentioned in Quran by name

1- Adam
2-idris
3-Noah
4-HUD
5-Salih
6-Abraham
7-Lut
8-ismail
9-ishaq
10-Yaqoub
11-Yusuf
12- Shu'aib
13- Ayub
14- Zu-l-Kifl
15- Musa
16- Harun
17- Dawud
18- Sulayman
19- ilyas
20- ilyasa or Al-Yasa
21- Yunus
22- Zakariyya
23- Yahya
24- issa
25- Mohammed

Wrong, only some of these were Messengers, i.e. Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus (alaihum salaam), and of course, Muhammad (alaihi salatu wa salaam). The rest were ordinary Prophets.

unknownuser

Wrong, only some of these were Messengers, i.e. Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus (alaihum salaam), and of course, Muhammad (alaihi salatu wa salaam). The rest were ordinary Prophets.

You've got the wording reversed.

agentxxx

Wrong, only some of these were Messengers, i.e. Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus (alaihum salaam), and of course, Muhammad (alaihi salatu wa salaam). The rest were ordinary Prophets.

peace Yusha,
I will rephrase my answer.......there are 25 Messengers and ordinary prophets mentioned by name in Quran ;D

peace

jonny_k

Peace "Nun de Plume"

Peace jonny_k,

Where exactly in the evolutionary tree do you draw the human line; when chromosome #2 supposedly fused and apes miraculously gave birth to 46 chromosome humans?

Question then is who did this first miracle baby Adam mate with ? an ape called Eve?

Then their offspring will have 23 + 24 = 47 chromosomes not 46.

Or was Adam?s mate another miracle baby with chromosome #2 also fused?

Which then is true?

48 chromosome apes via DNA mutation gave birth to 46 chromosome humans who then populated the world.

OR

46 chromosome humans were created as such then populated the world.

727 O ye CHILDREN OF ADAM! Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame for he and his tribe watch you from a position where ye cannot see them We made the evil ones friends (only) to those without faith.

1636 For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil" of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).

JK- Your obviously influenced too much by the Bible. There aint no Eve in the Quran. As i told you the chromosmes fused in the exact same positions on the genome where there were originally 48 in the apes. This has been shown through DNA sequecning. Furthermore i gave you evidence of endogenous retroviruses and even provided you with the link which you obviosuly didnt bother to read. GOD Bless!

jonny_k

Peace again "Nun de Plume",

Question then is who did this first miracle baby Adam mate with ? an ape called Eve?

Then their offspring will have 23 + 24 = 47 chromosomes not 46.

Or was Adam?s mate another miracle baby with chromosome #2 also fused?

Which then is true?

48 chromosome apes via DNA mutation gave birth to 46 chromosome humans who then populated the world.

OR

46 chromosome humans were created as such then populated the world.

JK- This shows ignorance of evolution. Favorable traits are passed on. The fusion occured due to a purpose and it was not necessarily just in one ape like creature but in many. Those when they mated then continued this trait. Also even if only one had fused and tht was favorable trait even if he mated with one tht hadnt yet a fused one the favorable trait cld still be passed on. Thats how natural selection works on the genetic level. GOD Bless!

stefan_rosty

Wrong, only some of these were Messengers, i.e. Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus (alaihum salaam), and of course, Muhammad (alaihi salatu wa salaam). The rest were ordinary Prophets.

Rasool
ismail 1954
moses 1951
nuh 26107
hud 26124
saleh 26142
lut 26162
shoaib 26178

yunus 37139 , yoseph 2332 , elias 37123 and abraham 5726 were considered morsaleen

mohamed 3340 and jesus 575
stefan rosty

unknownuser

Peace all?

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SHAKIR O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.

How do you read the above verse exactly; created Man and Woman and from those TWO the rest of humanity?

Or

Created some germ predecessor of ALL life and its mate; then from them TWO ALL creatures (which TWO?); germs, pre-Apes, Ape, post-Ape?

JK- Your obviously influenced too much by the Bible. There aint no Eve in the Quran. As i told you the chromosmes fused in the exact same positions on the genome where there were originally 48 in the apes. This has been shown through DNA sequecning. Furthermore i gave you evidence of endogenous retroviruses and even provided you with the link which you obviosuly didnt bother to read. GOD Bless!

YOU ARE obviously clueless about me and ASSUME too much.
Yes, Eve IS NOT in Qur?an ? how does that mean that I?m influenced by Bible?

Retroviruses as all viruses are like ?keys? which fit particular ?locks? and it?s obvious that if we share similar code with apes a virus will infect similar species. There is similar code and much dissimilar code...

http//www.micro.utexas.edu/courses/levin/bio304/humanevol/hum-chimp.chromosomes.gif

Take a closer look at chromosomes 1, 4, 9, Y, etc?also realize this is high-level as looking at apartment buildings and ASSUMING internal plumbing and furniture is same or that stuff like this is possible...

Stalin's half-man, half-ape super-warriors

http//news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=2434192005

JK- This shows ignorance of evolution. Favorable traits are passed on. The fusion occured due to a purpose and it was not necessarily just in one ape like creature but in many. Those when they mated then continued this trait. Also even if only one had fused and tht was favorable trait even if he mated with one tht hadnt yet a fused one the favorable trait cld still be passed on. Thats how natural selection works on the genetic level. GOD Bless!

Once again you assume things about which neither you nor anyone including the people doing research knows little; which favorable traits ? the thousands of genetic disorders and retroviruses you mentioned?

http//dir.yahoo.com/Health/Diseases_and_Conditions/Genetic_Disorders/

Let's wait for further research before ASSUMING conclusions.

Peace

unknownuser

How do you read the above verse exactly; created Man and Woman and from those TWO the rest of humanity?

Or

Created some germ predecessor of ALL life and its mate; then from them TWO ALL creatures (which TWO?); germs, pre-Apes, Ape, post-Ape?

Could be either actually.

What's your view on the origin of life and man then? Aside from "God created us" which doesn't explain how?

unknownuser

Could be either actually.

What's your view on the origin of life and man then? Aside from "God created us" which doesn't explain how?

Well origin of life definitely God created everything; As Qur'an says, look around you?

200 billion stars with 200 billion galaxies ? ?bang? all from nothing!

Then the countless billions of different species seen and ?unseen? with many dying out with nothing knew popping.

As far people go, I was installing a granite kitchen slap last month thinking how freaking heavy is this and realized how 10,000 years ago people were messing around with granite slaps the size of a small house?lol

Ever wonder why in last few thousand years? people went from cave drawings to space ships and discovering how to split genes while closest animals in intelligence are apes and pigs?

Then I?ve had dreams of future events which happened exactly dreamed ? kind of floating through space-time?lol

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13232.msg110315#msg110315

So yeah even though molecularly all living things are composed of water molecules and may share similar code; man is definitely different!

Peace

unknownuser

What I want to know is how you think life came about. It must obey the laws of physics, of course?

The question is HOW, not "WHO". "WHO" is assumed to be God.

unknownuser

What I want to know is how you think life came about. It must obey the laws of physics, of course?

The question is HOW, not "WHO". "WHO" is assumed to be God.

We know the mechanics of how life reproduces?

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8NHcQesYl8

As to HOW the original DNA code or ?blueprints? which is present in each one of our trillions of cells to make another one of us came about, we can only go so far and ultimately end up with ? ?Be? and it is!

unknownuser

As to HOW the original DNA code or ?blueprints? which is present in each one of our trillions of cells to make another one of us came about, we can only go so far and ultimately end up with ? ?Be? and it is!

http//uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Poof%2C_There_It_Is_Theory

The Poof, There It Is Theory is one of the most popular theories used to explain the creation of the universe. The theory is quite complex but it can be simplified to something like this

In the beginning, there was no universe, and then;

POOF!

There it was.

Ghulam_Rasool

25 messengers are mentioned in Quran by name

1- Adam
2-idris
3-Noah
4-HUD
5-Salih
6-Abraham
7-Lut
8-ismail
9-ishaq
10-Yaqoub
11-Yusuf
12- Shu'aib
13- Ayub
14- Zu-l-Kifl
15- Musa
16- Harun
17- Dawud
18- Sulayman
19- ilyas
20- ilyasa or Al-Yasa
21- Yunus
22- Zakariyya
23- Yahya
24- issa
25- Mohammed

Prophets mentioned by name in the Holy Quran

Adam
Nuh (Noah)
Hud
Salih
Lut (Lot)
Ibrahim (Abraham)
Ismail (Ishmael)
Ishaq (Isaac)
Yaqub (Jacob)
Yusuf (Joseph)
Musa (Moses)
Harun (Aaron)
Talut (Saul)
Dawud (David)
Sulaiman (Solomon)
Yunus (Jonah)
Dhul Qarnain
Dhul Kifl (Ezekiel)
Uzair (Ezra)
Ilyas (Elijah)
Al-Yasaa (Elisha)
Luqman
Zakariya (Zechariah)
Yahya (John the Baptist)
Isa (Jesus Christ)
Idris (Enoch)
Shuaib (Jethro)
Ayyub (Job)
Muhammad, the last Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam)

Other Prophets mentioned (not by name)

Samuel
Yusha (Joshua)
Kidhr

at least 33 by my count! Which means agentxxx missed 8!

siki

peace

I think there are 20 prophets mentioned by name in Quran. And in addition to that, there are three more, who are called as messenger only, they are Hud, Saleh, and Shu 'aib (named as messengers in 26125/ 143/ 178 respectively)

The term 'Scripture' is consistantly associated with 'prophets' in the Quran.

If we count the number of prophets named in the Quran we find a total of twenty prophets mentioned by their names. Each one of these 20 is specifically called a prophet in the Quran.

If we read verses 83-86 of Sura 6 we read 18 names, starting with Abraham and ending with Lot. Verse 89 confirms that all these 18 were prophets of God

"These are the ones to whom we have given the Scripture wisdom and prophethood"

These prophets are

1- Abraham (also named as a prophet in 1941 and 337)

2- Isaac (also in 1949 and 37112)

3- Jacob (also in 1949)

4- Noah (also in 337)

5- David (also in 1755)

6- Solomon

7- Job

8- Joseph

9- Moses (lso in 1951 and 337)

10- Aaron (also in 1953)

11- Zachariah

12- John (also in 339)

13- Jesus (also in 1930 and 337)

14- Elias

15- Ismail (1954)

16- Elisha

17- Jonah

18- Lot

If we add the names of the two prophets

19- Idris (named a prophet in 1956)

20- Muhammad (who is confirmed to be the last of the prophets (3340)

We find that the total number of those who are named as prophets in the Quran is 20

zul kifal is described as described as steadfast, patient and righteous 2185 and 3848 but not as prophet or a messenger

Adam , described as one of the chosen 333 ??.. not associated with the word messenger or prophet

Luqman described as one endowed with wisdom 3112 not as a messenger or a prophet.

(sourced by an article written by A Mohammad)

siki

siki

could any one cross check,and comment on my above post? and if the above one is correct , it is an interesting find because that makes Quran as the 19th and final scripture.

siki