Is Maryam from the NCRI/MEK a Quran only leader/Imam?

Leoxyz

Salaam Leoxyz

If you have patiently paid attention while reading the previous posts, you would have realized that the link was neither provided by brother Tanweer nor was it from Lisanul 3arab, and you wouldn't have bothered to copy all this from Lisaanul 3arab

The source was also mentioned.

Dear sister
Then give me the source of your information please.

SwedenMajidah

Peace,

Yes, sure but to trust lets say a scolar is not a safe solutions because we all must stand for our own deeds on the Day of Judgment right!?

So I cannot point finger on anyone and say, well it was his idea or his understanding hypno We must figure it out ourself and not hide behind someone else.

I have since long time back since I left sectarians approach a very simple life.

I do search for knowledge as much I can by being openminded and listen to people and read stuff and ponder about Al Quran as well.

I try my best to be a goodhearted person by being fair to both my own needs and other peoples needs. Try to be modest in both mind and appearence. Help the poor and needy if I'm able.

This I find very important as a believer in God and Quran and maybe there are people who don't think about these simple things I have mentioned.

But when we approach a kind and fair attitude for our surroundings it will make a big deal and hopefully the surroundings will adopt it and a positive frame of mind will be ruling.

Peace
Majidah

Samia

Dear sister
Then give me the source of your information please.

Dear Brother

Go back a few posts from where you quoted my post and you will find it. Then you can ask the poster if you still can't find the source.

Leoxyz

Dear Brother

Go back a few posts from where you quoted my post and you will find it. Then you can ask the poster if you still can't find the source.

LOL
Sorry disappointed badly

SwedenMajidah

Peace,

Brother But why she must re-post it over and over again? we mustn't be so lazy so we can't go back and check again, right!?

Majidah

Leoxyz

Peace,

Brother But why she must re-post it over and over again? we mustn't be so lazy so we can't go back and check again, right!?

Majidah

Sorry to sorry there was only one reference from Lisan ul Arab which was wrong.Read through the thread.I copy pasted every thing.

Samia

Sorry to sorry there was only one reference from Lisan ul Arab which was wrong.Read through the thread.I copy pasted every thing.

This is because you read what you have in mind, not what you have in front of you. You quoted me as saying "This is what I understood from the link".

First You presumed that was what I think, not what I understood.

Secondly You did not bother to open the link and see what reference said that. And you blame me for not bringing the link at your table, open it for you, and spoon-feed you? Then you say there is no other plate but lisanul 3arab, and it is not good?

And just let's presume I did not bring other than lisanul 3arab. Is it not sufficient for you? Did I claim, e.g, that "ALL dictionaries support such view", so you are triggered to ask me for more references?

Leoxyz

This is because you read what you have in mind, not what you have in front of you. You quoted me as saying "This is what I understood from the link".

First You presumed that was what I think, not what I understood.

Secondly You did not bother to open the link and see what reference said that. And you blame me for not bringing the link at your table, open it for you, and spoon-feed you? Then you say there is no other plate but lisanul 3arab, and it is not good?

And just let's presume I did not bring other than lisanul 3arab. Is it not sufficient for you? Did I claim, e.g, that "ALL dictionaries support such view", so you are triggered to ask me for more references?

Dear sister
How can you say that you gave the correct referece
you said

However, I think I understand what you mean. Is verse 55; 629 something you are looking for?

Men headcover.

Lisaanul3arab says under "khimaar

For men cover of the head; for women it is called "naSeef".

You made clearly distinction quoting Lisaanularab.
For males = khimaar
For women = naseef
Is this not so?
In fact according to lisanularb the word khimaar is used for head cover of males as well as females.

Samia

Dear sister
How can you say that you gave the correct referece
you said
You made clearly distinction quoting Lisaanularab.
For males = khimaar
For women = naseef
Is this not so?
In fact according to lisanularb the word khimaar is used for head cover of males as well as females.

Then if I was talking about lisanul 3arab, why should I give another reference? And how it is not a correct reference?!
In fact it was a second reference regarding the dialogue I had with other members.

According to Lisanul 3arab, it does not say khimar is head cover for women, it says it is said that it is a head cover for women, and gives no further proof; not even verse 2431. However, it gives a hadith as proof of khimar being a head cover for men.
Why do I have to repeat this many times?

Leoxyz

Then if I was talking about lisanul 3arab, why should I give another reference? And how it is not a correct reference?!
In fact it was a second reference regarding the dialogue I had with other members.

According to Lisanul 3arab, it does not say khimar is head cover for women, it says it is said that it is a head cover for women, and gives no further proof; not even verse 2431. However, it gives a hadith as proof of khimar being a head cover for men.
Why do I have to repeat this many times?

Dear sister
Ok ,leave previous debate
What is your opinion.If "ataf " is on Preposition does "ma3toof" has different i3raab than "ma3toof alai"
What does your knowledge say.
Are you are in line with "Zamakhshari" of the present day?

Samia

Who is zamakhshari of the present day?
But in principle, I am not with anybody, frankly speaking.

In classical and modern standard arabic, the rule is that ma3touf and ma3touf 3alaihi have the same (underlying) case ending. A preposition is linked to a verb (or equational sentence). The ma3touf and ma3touf 3alaihi should share the same verb (or equational sentence) like

inna 3alaa altaawila kitaaban wa qalaman

There are a book and a pen on the table.

I istened to a story and a piece of news.

Once you change the verb, you no more have a ma3touf and ma3touf 3alihi

I listened to a story and read a book

There is a thread for those who want to learn arabic to pose their questions

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12841.0

Leoxyz

Who is zamakhshari of the present day?
But in principle, I am not with anybody, frankly speaking.

In classical and modern standard arabic, the rule is that ma3touf and ma3touf 3alaihi have the same (underlying) case ending. A preposition is linked to a verb (or equational sentence). The ma3touf and ma3touf 3alaihi should share the same verb (or equational sentence) like

inna 3alaa altaawila kitaaban wa qalaman

There are a book and a pen on the table.

I istened to a story and a piece of news.

Once you change the verb, you no more have a ma3touf and ma3touf 3alihi

I listened to a story and read a book

There is a thread for those who want to learn arabic to pose their questions

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12841.0

Dear sister.
Thanks a lot for the reply.
As far as Zamakhshari/Seebawah/Khalil are concerned ,these are born in every era but different names and motives.
Anway thanks again.