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Are Wahabbis the closest to those who follow Quran alone?

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    Yosemite
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    How can people believe all that...

    people can believe more than that i will post one shair ( poetry) for those who under stand Urdu,

    sitare toot jayinge zameen per zalzala hoga
    Muhammad takht per honge adalat per khuda hoga

    It means Muhammad position will be higher then Allah ( God forbid) even he will be able to terminate him with out notice as pervez musharraf did in the case of chief justice chudhri. & & &

    Oh well that's it i've seen it all. Useless sectarians.

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      ade_cool
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      What I meant is in regards to all sects. Are they the closest to being Quran Alone without following much tradition like others, such as Sunnis and Shias.

      Actually, I posted a comment regarding this yesterday but I think there was an error -[ ...I will repeat now

      As far as I know, compared to sunnis, I would say wahabis/salafis are hardcore HADITH ELEVATORS. I have posted their challenge to bring one shahih hadith which contradicts quran in this thread. Sunnis (some of them) can still reject few hadiths such as hadiths pertaining to the second coming of Jesus. Please CMIIW peace

      As for wahabis/salafis and shias, a direct comparison is not possible since both have their own set of hadiths as authoritative divine revelations in their religion.

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        ade_cool
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        Wow...those are ridiculous. However, what if the tablet does have that inscribed on it? I mean its in a museum, right? Have they carbon dated it to your knowledge?

        I don't know about that. Maybe some members here know?

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          Well if you think about it most other Muslims follow a load of other crap on top of Hadith, so in a way the Wahabis/Salafis' strict adherence to 'Sahih' hadith alone does kinda make them closer, but obviously the relative 'closeness' is negligible

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            Alen
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            Salam.

            Wahabis don't like the truth and i would not get into conversations with them about this topic. One guy even threatened to kill me so they hate shias and then you can imagine what is their position on The Quran alone Muslims.

            Peace.

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              These people sicken me, what sickens me even more is that the American supported Salafists actually control alot of mosques and insitutions, so generally watch what you say around many of these ignorant morons

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                These people sicken me, what sickens me even more is that the American supported Salafists actually control alot of mosques and insitutions, so generally watch what you say around many of these ignorant morons

                Oh really? How do you know that?

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                  Peace

                  These people sicken me, what sickens me even more is that the American supported Salafists actually control alot of mosques and insitutions, so generally watch what you say around many of these ignorant morons

                  I have heard this too, particularly in those undercover videos (mainly UK stuff though).

                  Peace

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                    These people sicken me, what sickens me even more is that the American supported Salafists actually control alot of mosques and insitutions, so generally watch what you say around many of these ignorant morons

                    This is true according to the recent Newsweek Magazine I read.

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                      Oh really? How do you know that?

                      I know it because alot, well to be honest, I'd say all mosques in the UK are run by people who have the salafi mindset, it's a complex issue and also involves race but basically, the Saudi Arabian royal family took on Wahabbism as they came to power, they export all kinds of books and leaflets exporting their interpretation of Islam, one of the biggest beneficiaries is Pakistan, who in turn prints alot of it's own books.

                      Then what you have is a loada Muslims in the UK, many of whom have read nothing but the Arabic Qu'ran (i.e. they don't understand what it means) and sport this mentalitly. Look at all the mosques where some of the infamous hate-preachers and bombers have come from and you'll see they're all salafi-run. Other British people can tell you, but the majority of Mosques in the UK are presided over by such individuals.

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                        Salamun alaikum

                        If the Wahhabis follow The Quran and so against Shirk , then why would they perpetuate The Stone-Worship in Mecca and continue placing prophet Muhammad besides Allah ? brickwall

                        Peace

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                          Samia
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                          These people sicken me, what sickens me even more is that the American supported Salafists actually control alot of mosques and insitutions, so generally watch what you say around many of these ignorant morons

                          Oh really? How do you know that?

                          Besides mosques, departments of islamic studies in most of, if not all, the universities in the UK are sponsored by Saudi Arabia, and they may even choose its Chair or some of the prof/lecturers.

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                            Al-Quraishi
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                            Oh really? How do you know that?

                            Besides mosques, departments of islamic studies in most of, if not all, the universities in the UK are sponsored by Saudi Arabia, and they may even choose its Chair or some of the prof/lecturers.

                            I take it you've lived in the UK too Samia

                            Salamun alaikum

                            If the Wahhabis follow The Quran and so against Shirk , then why would they perpetuate The Stone-Worship in Mecca and continue placing prophet Muhammad besides Allah ?

                            Peace

                            That's the thing, they don't just follow the Qur'an

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                              I take it you've lived in the UK too Samia

                              And still live in it. I also worked in a university; that's how I know

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                                Salamun alaikum

                                If the Wahhabis follow The Quran and so against Shirk , then why would they perpetuate The Stone-Worship in Mecca and continue placing prophet Muhammad besides Allah ? brickwall

                                Peace

                                Because they do not own that place, the muslim world do. I still do not understand what shirk has to do with it. Nobody is saying that stone is a god.

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                                  Peace,

                                  So who gets to go to Mecca to do Pilgramage? Can Shias go? Is it mostly Wahabbis there? How can anyone get along with different sects all trying to kill each other?

                                  Peace

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                                    Are Wahabbis the closest to those who follow Quran alone?

                                    NO! They are not even close. Infact they are exactly opposite, only they are less ignorant then other sunni and shia sects.

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                                      Samia
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                                      Peace,

                                      So who gets to go to Mecca to do Pilgramage? Can Shias go? Is it mostly Wahabbis there? How can anyone get along with different sects all trying to kill each other?

                                      Peace

                                      Anyone who has papers that pove he/she is a muslim, even shia. Religious police stands near the tomb of the prophet to prevent people from praying towards it, even if they have to beat them up. But generally speaking, shia have a "better" place to do hajj to, at the shrine of some imam in the city of ""Qum" in Iran, where they perform tawaaf around the shrine.

                                      Wahabism is the official sect of Saudi Arabia. Pilgrims come from all over the world and all sects of "islam".

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                                        Al-Quraishi
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                                        And still live in it. I also worked in a university; that's how I know

                                        Ditto on the Living and Ditto on the University, although we've made sure our Islamic Society is not run by Wahabbists.

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