Artificial life likely in 3 to 10 years
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Peace ILisa,
Interesting, fascinating stuff! Have her claims been verified by others in the scientific community?
I will have to think about that.
What if light is the creation? How do we know that it's not the creation?
Making sure, And are you saying that light = God? Or God's energy?
I am sincerely asking these questions to hopefully learn, no other motives involved here. Skepticism leads to the best possible answers.
It could still be a metaphor. Light= right path
Dark = wrong path; absence of guidance etc..
I wouldn't want to merely fit modern 'research' into a Qur'anic verse, but we can use the understanding of the workings of the world around us in order to better understand what God has written. With that in mind, let me give this a try
Nothing wrong with that IMO.
Perhaps, that's meant to be taken both literally by some and metaphorically by others. I believe al-quran was written this way.
Have you read the verse in context? Do you still come to the same conclusion?
So, without further adieu...back to the verse....does it make more literal sense?
That depends on the individual, doesn't it?
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Greetings DArgento,
Well, to re-read the ayah (working from Mohd. Asad's translation), it says, 'God is the Light of the heavens and the earth'...that's pretty self-explanatory. For the created heavens and earth, God is the Light. In ayah 40 of the same surah, in continuance of the same line of thought, God talks about darkness, saying that '...he to whom God gives no light, no light whatever has he!'
This, for me, verifies at least a good part of what I have conveyed in my previous posting in this thread.
I obviously don't know 'what' God is, but from what mankind understands, God would have to be energy, pure energy. That brings us to question what is light?? Light is both particles and waves. (To have this type of essence is unique...) Light IS energy and light has mass. Gravity attracts mass.
Okay, let's step back a bit and think.....God is 'All that is' and creation is a subset of God and All that 'is'. Are you with me? Creation doesn't exist outside of God, it exists within God. "God is the light of the heavens and earth and ...he to whom God gives no light, no light whatever has he. " Referring to my previous post, if you have no light, you're dead, you no longer exist. So....to have light is to have coherence, to have communication, to exist. So, if God is light and created creatures have to have light to exist, then, light can still literally be God and be the essence of all that is created.
Whew! Does that make sense??
(BTW, this is a nice thought exercise.....!)
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Greetings DArgento,
I'm confused. confused
I read the ayaat around it; in fact I also wrote about ayah 40 as well. Since I'm not getting the point you're trying to make, I'll have to ask you to spell it out for me. Sorry. We seem to be on different 'trains of thought'. (!!)
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Peace ILisa,
I owe you an apology. I responded too soon with my last, quick post. brickwall Just ignore it.
Okay, let's step back a bit and think.....God is 'All that is' and creation is a subset of God and All that 'is'. Are you with me? Creation doesn't exist outside of God, it exists within God. "God is the light of the heavens and earth and ...he to whom God gives no light, no light whatever has he. " Referring to my previous post, if you have no light, you're dead, you no longer exist. So....to have light is to have coherence, to have communication, to exist. So, if God is light and created creatures have to have light to exist, then, light can still literally be God and be the essence of all that is created.
I completely agree with that. In both the verses referenced, the light is referred to as an allegory, no? Let's forget about that for now...I guess the question is... Is God limited to the light, in your opinion? My feelings are that God is everywhere and in all creation. And that light could be God, but I still think it's a stretch to say that Light is God period.
However, I never eliminate any possiblities.
Whew! Does that make sense??
I think?
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Peace "Dargento",
Peace jonny_K
"Research" =/= Reality
JK- Yes scientific reserach comes as close to reality as it can get.
In any case, did light cause the big bang? Was there light before the big bang?
JK- YES QUANTUM FLUX/LIGHT(as in conventional language) WAS ALWAYS THERE. IT is what caused the big bang and perhaps an in finite amount of other bangs as suggested now by Stephen Hawkins in his "theory for everything" model(http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLprHMq4ZkM).
I believe you are trying to fit modern 'research' into a quranic verse that's obviously a metaphor.
JK- No the first part of the verse does NOT appear to be a metaphorical or allegorical. The second is allegorical as it starts with the term "mathala" and is used to give an approximate description for us to understand it in the best way possible but only experience could really make us understand further eg like also in case of heaven and hell. If you have never seen green as a color it would be difficult to explain it to you and one can only use allegories to approximate it. GOD Bless!
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Peace
The explanation's offered kills the beuty of the these verses
Lareb
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Peace
Your right.I know its my opinoin.
Lareb
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sallams brother,
i have just finished a post graduate course On Artificial Intelligence and Natural Sytems, and it is very true that some AI branches are loosely based on natural systems, namely Genetics ( Genetics programs and Genetic Algorithms) and neural Networks. Also some computer scientisits and researchers have been looking at how our natural defence system , to bacterial attacks from outside the body react, and try to copy the behaviour for computer systems thus reducing computing failiures doue to virus attacks.
The DNA proteins are being researched for thier capabilities as memory storage, a dna strand contains a "databank" of codes using protiens that are arranged in specific order, these prehaps can be used to store code, 010001 etc.
The research on creating a plasma based "chip" is very young however now we are talking about Artificial Life..which is a offshoot of AI.
So the times ahead are going to be interseting, AI is already very widespread but people dont realise it because most of the AI is embedded in Other systems..eg traffic light systems..weather prediction..not to mention the Internet!
Salaams Bros Sis's,
Sister Aysha.