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Who is Zaid in this Aya??

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    Leoxyz
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    Greetings leoxyz,

    The whole point that we're trying to make here, is that the DETAILS are not necessary!! That is what ties the message down and makes it RIGID! If it was important, God would have made it clear and unambiguous.

    peace

    You may not need the details but these are essential for a muslim.

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      nadeem
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      Peace Leoxyz,

      Describe a single situation where the identity of 'zaid' would be essential to a muslim.

      Nadeem

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        Leoxyz
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        Peace Leoxyz,

        Describe a single situation where the identity of 'zaid' would be essential to a muslim.

        Nadeem

        Why did Prophet ask Zaid not to divorce his wife?
        Unless you identify Zaid and the real situation ,How can you answer this question ?

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          nadeem
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          Peace Leoxyz,

          Why is that question important in the first place?

          Nadeem

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            ILisa
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            You may not need the details but these are essential for a muslim.

            ACK! So now you've juxtaposed me and 'a muslim'. Very interesting. Indeed!! hmm

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              unknownuser
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              Any developments? Have we learnt how Zaid cooked pizza from the Quran? What surah is the recipe in?

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                Leoxyz
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                Any developments? Have we learnt how Zaid cooked pizza from the Quran? What surah is the recipe in?

                To the real Deen ,History is equally important.
                Evidence Quran has narrated the history of Prophets particularly that of Prophet Moses PBUH in detail.
                And orders
                3042
                (3042) (O Prophet,) say to them, "Go about in the land and see what has been the end- of those who lived before (you). Most of them were mushriks (idolaters). *

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                  unknownuser
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                  To the real Deen ,History is equally important.
                  Evidence Quran has narrated the history of Prophets particularly that of Prophet Moses PBUH in detail.
                  And orders
                  3042
                  (3042) (O Prophet,) say to them, "Go about in the land and see what has been the end- of those who lived before (you). Most of them were mushriks (idolaters). *

                  Yes obviously; so what does that have to do with accepting hearsay as this?

                  http//www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/058.sbt.html#005.058.227

                  Volume 5, Book 58, Number 227
                  Narrated Abbas bin Malik
                  ...

                  When I came back to Moses, he said, 'What have you been ordered?' I replied, 'I have been ordered to observe five prayers a day.' He said, 'Your followers cannot bear five prayers a day, and no doubt, I have got an experience of the people before you, and I have tried my level best with Bani Israel, so go back to your Lord and ask for reduction to lessen your follower's burden.' I said, 'I have requested so much of my Lord that I feel ashamed, but I am satisfied now and surrender to Allah's Order.' When I left, I heard a voice saying, 'I have passed My Order and have lessened the burden of My Worshipers."

                  How do we go about and verify the above is true?

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                    unknownuser
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                    To the real Deen ,History is equally important.
                    Evidence Quran has narrated the history of Prophets particularly that of Prophet Moses PBUH in detail.
                    And orders
                    3042
                    (3042) (O Prophet,) say to them, "Go about in the land and see what has been the end- of those who lived before (you). Most of them were mushriks (idolaters). *

                    Correct. Though the Quran itself gave the example, which is what we need for guidance. Please differentiate.

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                      Samia
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                      ACK! So now you've juxtaposed me and 'a muslim'. Very interesting. Indeed!! hmm

                      You should change your name to "Al3azza" so you get counted with muslims

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                        Leoxyz
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                        Correct. Though the Quran itself gave the example, which is what we need for guidance. Please differentiate.

                        Subhanallah

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                          mz
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                          Dear friends
                          Who is Zaid in this Aya??

                          3337

                          To my knowledge there is no zaid in the ayah at all.

                          And (remember) when (he) said to him ?you have received the grace of Allah and favour "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But didst hide in the heart that which Allah was about to make manifest and didst fear the people, but Allah had better right that he should have feared Him. So when their desire to finally end the union increased We joined her in a new marriage tie in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in the wives yearning/cry, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.

                          God Bless All.

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                            ILisa
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                            You should change your name to "Al3azza" so you get counted with muslims

                            rotfl Now there's an idea!

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                              Leoxyz
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                              Neither the Grand Quran is inexplicit nor Deen is equivalent to the sum total of Quran +Sunna {here it is meant what is stated by a number of non Arab historians/collections of hearsays etc}. Quran has defined Deen as Millat Ibrahim, which the Last Messenger was advised to follow. The "Sunna" of the Last Messenger is the one recorded in Quran.

                              The Grand Quran {not the hadith quoted by someone} has unambiguously stated that Sydena Zaid was the adopted son {a son not born of him but known as son since by the utterance of his mouth he called him as his son}

                              ?And We have not made whom you call with your tongues sons as your sons? {Refer 33{04}

                              ANOTHER PEARL OF TRANSLATION BY A QURANIST

                              Actual Aya
                              334
                              Sir ! Would you kindly tell me which words you have translated as "We have not made"
                              It will be a great help to learners like me.

                              Mashallah and Subhanallah

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                                Samia
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                                ANOTHER PEARL OF TRANSLATION BY A QURANIST

                                Actual Aya
                                334
                                Sir ! Would you kindly tell me which words you have translated as "We have not made"
                                It will be a great help to learners like me.

                                Mashallah and Subhanallah

                                The cat that eats its kittens is blind, stupid and unable to differentiate between what belongs to her and what belongs to the others.

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                                  Leoxyz
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                                  The cat that eats its kittens is blind, stupid and unable to differentiate between what belongs to her and what belongs to the others.

                                  So you also think
                                  maa ja3ala = We did not make ??

                                  Subhanallah & Mashallah
                                  By the way who is teacher of all of you in Classical Arabic??
                                  I want to see that "Zamakhshari"

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    "Actual Aya
                                    334
                                    Sir ! Would you kindly tell me which words you have translated as "We have not made"
                                    It will be a great help to learners like me" {Leoxyz}

                                    Dear Leoxyz; Kindly enlighten me with the correct translation.

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                                      Leoxyz
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                                      Dear Leoxyz; Kindly enlighten me with the correct translation.

                                      First answe my Question.
                                      Which word did you translate as "we" in this ayaa, then we can talks further.

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                                        Samia
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                                        So you also think
                                        maa ja3ala = We did not make ??

                                        Subhanallah & Mashallah
                                        By the way who is teacher of all of you in Classical Arabic??
                                        I want to see that "Zamakhshari"

                                        That's what you understood from my comment confused? No wonder!! You really are a hopeless case as far as comprehension is concerned.

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                                          Leoxyz
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                                          That's what you understood from my comment confused? No wonder!! You really are a hopeless case as far as comprehension is concerned.

                                          Because I am not 'Zamakhshari" of the time like most of Quranists.

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